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[mgs00]

So we'd get cutscenes like in the blur trailer for ME2

[Bio Addict]

We need to go deeper...













17 discs

[uzivatel]

As long as they use low bitrate bink video, there wont be any change even if they use 20 discs...

[MEUTRIERE]

One disc for ME1, two for ME2, and three for ME3?

I like this keeping with the theme we've got going here.

[Matchy Pointy]

I think ME3 should be as many discs as it takes to fit the game on.

[Hathur]

mgs00 wrote...

So we'd get cutscenes like in the blur trailer for ME2

Couple problems.

Number of discs wouldn't play a factor in this. Whether a rendered video is using high quality 3d modelling like we see in Blur cinematics or whether it just recorded in-game stuff, the 2 video files will be basically the same size, assuming they're the same length of time (give or take a few megs depending on number of frames).

What is a factor is 1) A 2-3 minute long pre-render video like we saw of this or SWTOR's videos, costs a few million dollars as an industry average (assuming you're using top studios like Blur, of course).

2) Doesn't work in game... ME1 & 2 have virtually no pre-rendered scenes (Except for normandy space battles) because the animators have no way to know what your Shepard looks like, what armor he has on, what your squad members have on, etc (remember that IGN article awhile back? The majority of ME2 players made a custom Shep.. only a minority played with the default Shep face).

All of ME2's cinematics had to be rendered real-time in game (like most games these days, actually) because of the diversity of the game... it only works for the space battles because we don't need to see the characters during those, and the normandy looks like the normandy, no matter what.

But cost is a the ultimate factor... a full length film made to the quality of the SWTOR trailers (or Blur's other stuff) would cost 10's of millions of dollars to make... you can't even begin to imagine the size of the rendering farm you'd need to make a 1.5-2hr long film in that quality... rendering alone could take months unless you dropped a sheer fortune on a vast number of high-end computers to handle it.

[mgs00]

Ok then lets make it 500 disks

[kalle90]

I rather have more dialogue, more missions, more landable planets, more items and more everything. And keep cutscenes rendered in-game

[Wonderllama4]

Disc 3 can be multiplayer!!

[Forsythia]

Ok, I'll bite: over 9000!!11!! discs!

[Hathur]

Wonderllama4 wrote...

Disc 3 can be multiplayer!!

<THWAP!>

No! Bad dog!

[Pacifien]

Bare in mind that Microsoft increases the rates the more discs you add for their XBox 360 games. So unless you think the casual gamer would like to pay $90 for Mass Effect 3, more discs is an unlikely scenario. Not to mention that ME2's plot was designed around there being two discs because BioWare cannot assume everyone can load it onto their 360 hard drives, so the more discs you add into the mix, the more you have to alter the plot to cover disc switching.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Bio Addict wrote...

We need to go deeper...













17 discs

But... but... if we go deeper and thus things get more complex, won't that confuse the average 360 player? Has any game done this before? How do we know it'll work?


Before anyone thinks am taking ze ******, I am not, I am just taking Bio's idea and running an insheeption on it

[Kronner]

Hopefully they won't nerf the PC version of the game because xbox360 is not good enough again.

[NICKjnp]

Don't start a flamewar.

[Grimmace]

Kronner wrote...

Hopefully they won't nerf the PC version of the game because xbox360 is not good enough again.

Let's see. PC no issues for size, power etc. PS3, put it on a blu-ray disc (25GB single layer, 50 dual layer), and they all have large enough hard drives. XBox 360.......you write to the weakest link that buys a lot (or the most, power in money), gee, I wonder what will happen.

Modifié par Grimmace, 12 décembre 2010 - 02:41 .

[Dr Bob UK]

Three DVDs for Xbox, one Blu-Ray for PS3.

Kronner wrote...

Hopefully they won't nerf the PC version of the game because xbox360 is not good enough again.

This.

I want more advanced video options, and controls that are not dumbed down.

Modifié par Dr Bob UK, 12 décembre 2010 - 02:43 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Now, now everyone keep this from being either a console war or console v pc war.



As Pacifien said, it's highly unlikely they'll go with more discs unless absolutely necessary.

[Dr Bob UK]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Now, now everyone keep this from being either a console war or console v pc war.

Sorry, but who are you?

[Pacifien]

Dr Bob UK wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
Now, now everyone keep this from being either a console war or console v pc war.

Sorry, but who are you?

Since you seem to have an issue with a fellow forumite trying to keep the thread on-topic and from being shut down, let me step in for a moment to say platform wars are not allowed on this forum.

[LPPrince]

Dr Bob UK wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Now, now everyone keep this from being either a console war or console v pc war.

Sorry, but who are you?

A poster who said what I was going to say before I said it. But I'll say it anyway.

Console vs. Console or Console vs. PC wars are not allowed on this forum, and the moderators will take action if they feel they have to. In short- Don't start with any elitism or belittling of consoles or PCs. NONE OF THAT.

Back to the actual topic,

I want ME3 to be on as many disks as possible. If we can get a three disk game that is pretty much completely MAIN story driven instead of based completely on recruiting characters, then it will be AMAZING.

So I support multiple disks. Keep in mind however that this is extra money they have to pay for releasing the game on more than one disk.

[AntiChri5]

Put it on as many bloody disks as you have to.

I won't mind getting up to change it every 20 minutes.

I could use the exercise.

[Dr Bob UK]

Pacifien wrote...

Dr Bob UK wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
Now, now everyone keep this from being either a console war or console v pc war.

Sorry, but who are you?

Since you seem to have an issue with a fellow forumite trying to keep the thread on-topic and from being shut down, let me step in for a moment to say platform wars are not allowed on this forum.

But I'm not trying to instigate any platform wars?

It's fairly obvious that the high capacity of a blu-ray disc will mean that Mass Effect 3 will require only one of them, in contrast to however many DVDs it will require.

I am pretty sure what I just said is completely related to the thread, and my intentions were not to start a conflict about which platform is better.

[Busomjack]

Pacifien wrote...

Bare in mind that Microsoft increases the rates the more discs you add for their XBox 360 games. So unless you think the casual gamer would like to pay $90 for Mass Effect 3, more discs is an unlikely scenario. Not to mention that ME2's plot was designed around there being two discs because BioWare cannot assume everyone can load it onto their 360 hard drives, so the more discs you add into the mix, the more you have to alter the plot to cover disc switching.

Really?  Wasn't Final Fantasy XIII a regular priced game despite being 3 discs?(Xbox360 version)

[schneeland]

Well, I see the benefits of a third disc. However, I am not aware of any 360 game that has three discs, so I doubt we see that in ME 3.