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The Citadel is no longer a viable target. Without a Saren figure, a Reaper will not be able to enter the station before the Wards arms close, locking it out. They're going to have to do it the hard way.

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Its stupid, they should fgo after the citadel, close the relays and keep the galaxy isolated, no species knows how to make thier own relay. But nope I get the feeling the reapers will be made into idiots so shepard can win.

The fleet at the citadel has got the station locked up tighter than a new vegas virgin
I'm guessing they finally believe Shepard and Have put thousands of ship there no matter what happens elsewhere
Because they know they would be cut off if the reapers took it
So they are probably all armed with Thanix cannons and all the high tech weaponry they could get while the thousands of other ships fight for the planets.
And if they do attack the fleets would rush to the station and the reapers would be even more outnumbered than at the first battle

No. You dont know that, all you know as the council dismessed the reapers. So no excuse.
Reaper fleet > other fleets
It woudnt be impossible for the reapers to get it. hell if the citadel is locked they could just use the conduit.

Did you even watch the first batte ?
It took the council and aliance fleets to kill one reaper, alone all focusing on one reaper...
Now they couldnt focus on just one, they would also die alot faster, meaning reapers would still mop the floor with them.

Soverign got in before the citadel closed.

Alsothe keepers obviously still work for the reapers, see the vid in LoTSB keepers can kill, and they are pretty much infinante from an unknown source, the reapers have an army there mretty much.

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Hold on a second, we still have no clue how the reapers managed to get into the milky way from so far out. How do we know that the force attacking earth isn't just a vanguard that got in ahead of the main fleet and that the main reaper fleet is awaiting for the best time to attack while the vanguard provides a distraction?

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 Couldn't care less about earth. Never understood this obsession... just look out the damn window. I've been wanting to see Thessia and Palaven for years though.

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this isnt my name wrote...

scarface71795 wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

Its stupid, they should fgo after the citadel, close the relays and keep the galaxy isolated, no species knows how to make thier own relay. But nope I get the feeling the reapers will be made into idiots so shepard can win.

The fleet at the citadel has got the station locked up tighter than a new vegas virgin
I'm guessing they finally believe Shepard and Have put thousands of ship there no matter what happens elsewhere
Because they know they would be cut off if the reapers took it
So they are probably all armed with Thanix cannons and all the high tech weaponry they could get while the thousands of other ships fight for the planets.
And if they do attack the fleets would rush to the station and the reapers would be even more outnumbered than at the first battle

No. You dont know that, all you know as the council dismessed the reapers. So no excuse.
Reaper fleet > other fleets
It woudnt be impossible for the reapers to get it. hell if the citadel is locked they could just use the conduit.

Did you even watch the first batte ?
It took the council and aliance fleets to kill one reaper, alone all focusing on one reaper...
Now they couldnt focus on just one, they would also die alot faster, meaning reapers would still mop the floor with them.

Soverign got in before the citadel closed.

Alsothe keepers obviously still work for the reapers, see the vid in LoTSB keepers can kill, and they are pretty much infinante from an unknown source, the reapers have an army there mretty much.





Sure i don't know that but to me it seems very likely seeing how everything Shepard has said has been true and as people have been saying it's going to take the Reapers on the Council's doorstep for them to wake up and listen to Shepard
Well Ring-a-ding-ding
They dismissed the claim without proof
The reapers have attacked.They are at war and i'll be damned if Bioware comes up with that excuse again that they have no evidence.
Why else would Saren head to the council Chamber
At this point they have to believe and listen to Shepard
Hell they might even blow the station.
Unless it damages the Relays 
Discuss
Also did you see the part where i said upgraded Weapons from the dead reaper?

Modifié par scarface71795, 12 décembre 2010 - 11:52 .


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scarface71795 wrote...

Sure i don't know that but to me it seems very likely seeing how everything Shepard has said has been true and as people have been saying it's going to take the Reapers on the Council's doorstep for them to wake up and listen to Shepard
Well Ring-a-ding-ding
They dismissed the claim without proof
The reapers have attacked.They are at war and i'll be damned if Bioware comes up with that excuse again that they have no evidence.
Why else would Saren head to the council Chamber
At this point they have to believe and listen to Shepard
Hell they might even blow the station.
Unless it damages the Relays 
Discuss
Also did you see the part where i said upgraded Weapons from the dead reaper?

The council has had proof since the end of ME1, the were attacked, but it wasnt good enough, they wont listen.
Besides if the citadel is locked up then we cant get out "ah yes reapers" line to use on the turian counciler.

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this isnt my name wrote...

scarface71795 wrote...

Sure i don't know that but to me it seems very likely seeing how everything Shepard has said has been true and as people have been saying it's going to take the Reapers on the Council's doorstep for them to wake up and listen to Shepard
Well Ring-a-ding-ding
They dismissed the claim without proof
The reapers have attacked.They are at war and i'll be damned if Bioware comes up with that excuse again that they have no evidence.
Why else would Saren head to the council Chamber
At this point they have to believe and listen to Shepard
Hell they might even blow the station.
Unless it damages the Relays 
Discuss
Also did you see the part where i said upgraded Weapons from the dead reaper?

The council has had proof since the end of ME1, the were attacked, but it wasnt good enough, they wont listen.
Besides if the citadel is locked up then we cant get out "ah yes reapers" line to use on the turian counciler.


Not what i meant
They had no proof that it was a reaper that attacked them
Now they have Hundreds of ships attacking the home planet along with the possible evidence from the ending of ME2 and by locked up i meant heavily guarded
But this might not be the case based on how long the battles been going on
get it?

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If reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....

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You realise that to get to the citadel now, they'd have to go through various relays with the potential of being sighted. They can't use the citadel relay any more and the keepers have failed the reapers before so I doubt the reapers will trust them any more and well Shepard also had that program that gives him direct control of the citadel which I'm pretty sure can override the keepers. The galaxy would have to be incredibly stupid (10 times dumber than the Turian councillor) to dismiss hundreds of "those things that attacked the citadel" and then not inform the citadel either. A warned citadel would be better prepared and closed.

However, if you think about, earth is home to a major species that is a military power for the council, a rising power in the galaxy and so far the only basic group to have done anything about it (Shepard, Cerebus, Anderson & hell, I even reckon Hackett may believe in the reapers). Not only that, they're also close to the edge of the galaxy and you have a special interest in them, according to the last game. Seems like a perfect place to start from (with the added bonus that you can make it a sneak attack). Wiped out the majority of your biggest threat.

Modifié par Macross, 12 décembre 2010 - 12:00 .


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konderus wrote...

If reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....

Yeah the fact they have been a week and are still fighting pisses me off. Its like benezia in ME1 hyped up then she just opens a few doos and gets shot and dies... They just change the way things should be to let people win, which is wrong imo.


Soverign and a feth fleet got to the citadel fine.

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It is possible that the Sol system is the closest to their point of entry from deep space and are using the earth as a beach head.

And since it is also Humanity's crib, I guess they really hit jackpot.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

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I think spreading out their forces while they're in a potentially vulnerable position would be a dumber thing to do. They need to establish a beach head from which to move out since they effectively no longer have control of the Citadel. 


So why don't they attack the Citadel?


Exactly from strategic point of view it is far more important than Earth no matter what...in ME1 reapers knew that. In ME3 they seem to forget...Image IPB


So it's a plot hole?


Or, hold onto your seat, it's something that they just didn't choose to address for the first trailer!!! Crazy, I know. We should just keep whining and complaining until the next trailer comes out so we can make more assumptions.

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konderus wrote...

If reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....

Yeah the fact they have been a week and are still fighting pisses me off. Its like benezia in ME1 hyped up then she just opens a few doos and gets shot and dies... They just change the way things should be to let people win, which is wrong imo.


Soverign and a feth fleet got to the citadel fine.


Ehem...."We poison our air and water to weed out the weak! We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere! We nailed our deity to a stick! Don't frell with the human race!"

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Nohvarr wrote...

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konderus wrote...

If reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....

Yeah the fact they have been a week and are still fighting pisses me off. Its like benezia in ME1 hyped up then she just opens a few doos and gets shot and dies... They just change the way things should be to let people win, which is wrong imo.


Soverign and a feth fleet got to the citadel fine.


Ehem...."We poison our air and water to weed out the weak! We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere! We nailed our deity to a stick! Don't frell with the human race!"

wat?:o

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konderus wrote...

If Reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....


I agree.

Besides, my main FemShep is a Colonist, she doesn't give a damn about Earth, she'd sooner save Thessia, Irune (Volus homeworld), Sur'Kesh (Salarian homeworld) and hell, even Mars as a major human Prothean excavations' museum (to make Liara happy ^_^).

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This worries me. I thought there would be an awesome story with the whole galaxy under attack, like the Reapers has always done before. Why are they only attacking Earth? It seems very... silly.

Well, I'll of course get the game.

Where do you get the idea that they were only attacking Earth? Shepard isn't there so it's obvious that something important is happening in other parts of the galaxy and nowhere does it say that Earth is the only place being attacked.

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I think the Reapers attacked earth for the sole purpose of creating an army. It seems humans are relatively easy to indoctrinate and after Sarens attack on the Citadel humanity has a very large military. If the Reapers gain control of Earth and its army they will have the second largest fleet at their side as they obliterate the galaxy.

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Why are people suddenly deciding from a 1 minute teaser trailer the whole story of the game? Seriously stop taking it so literally. Let's wait until we know more about the game before we decide "hey i don't like the story to this game they should have done it this way!" Just because earth is under attack in the trailer doesn't mean it's the ONLY place that is or will be under attack. Calm down all you fans of other planets i'm sure you'll get the chance to fight for your favourite planet too.



Personally i am glad they are including Earth in the game i've been wanting it since the first game when i figured out i couldn't land on Earth. And if that is the turf for the final battel with the Reapers i say go for it. We already had the battle for the Citadel in the first game i don't see why they need to repeat themselves.



As far as the teaser goes focusing on Earth. I have a feeling that we'll get several short trailers like that focusing on different planets struggle against the reapers. Kinda like for ME2 when we had several short trailers focusing on party members. We'll get to find out more about what planets will be involved in ME3.

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Weren't Reapers almost invincible?



Spreading out would be the smartest thing to do.

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Its only Earth because look at how Earth dresses, its askin' for it.

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scarface71795 wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

konderus wrote...

If reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....

Yeah the fact they have been a week and are still fighting pisses me off. Its like benezia in ME1 hyped up then she just opens a few doos and gets shot and dies... They just change the way things should be to let people win, which is wrong imo.


Soverign and a feth fleet got to the citadel fine.


Ehem...."We poison our air and water to weed out the weak! We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere! We nailed our deity to a stick! Don't frell with the human race!"

wat?:o


follow the link and bask in the glory of humanities rich warrior tradition :)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreWarriors

Bocks wrote...

Weren't Reapers almost invincible?

Spreading out would be the smartest thing to do.


No they are not, that's why Navarra needed help to take on the citedel fleet in ME 1, why you were able to find a dead reaper in two and why they leave their tech behind in the first place. They need organics to follow a certain path, otherwise we become unpredictable and a more significant threat.

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What the heck makes people think it's ONLY earth? You people take things too literally. Only Earth is in the description so it sounds cool (they wouldn't have the same affect if it was the Salarian homeworld). It's just a marketing line

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Moondoggie wrote...

Why are people suddenly deciding from a 1 minute teaser trailer the whole story of the game? Seriously stop taking it so literally. Let's wait until we know more about the game before we decide "hey i don't like the story to this game they should have done it this way!" Just because earth is under attack in the trailer doesn't mean it's the ONLY place that is or will be under attack. Calm down all you fans of other planets i'm sure you'll get the chance to fight for your favourite planet too.

Because that is what people love to do on here.

Personally i am glad they are including Earth in the game i've been wanting it since the first game when i figured out i couldn't land on Earth. And if that is the turf for the final battel with the Reapers i say go for it. We already had the battle for the Citadel in the first game i don't see why they need to repeat themselves.

It's hilarious to me that there have been people clamoring for us to go to Earth in the past two games and when Bioware shows that we will more than likely going there, the conversation all of a sudden turns to "why are we just on Earth?!!!".

As far as the teaser goes focusing on Earth. I have a feeling that we'll get several short trailers like that focusing on different planets struggle against the reapers. Kinda like for ME2 when we had several short trailers focusing on party members. We'll get to find out more about what planets will be involved in ME3.

That would be really cool.

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konderus wrote...

If reapers attacked only Earth, it should fall in few hours....

Yeah the fact they have been a week and are still fighting pisses me off. Its like benezia in ME1 hyped up then she just opens a few doos and gets shot and dies... They just change the way things should be to let people win, which is wrong imo.


Soverign and a feth fleet got to the citadel fine.

And were utterly DESTROYED by... guess, come on, I dare you.
And in a few hours, no less. I'd even dare say it didn't get to one hour before the 5th Fleet (humans!) killed Sovereign.

Don't go around hating when you have to omit facts for your opinion to hold water.
Besides, it is still unclear if the Reapers are culling humans to create their new brother. If so, it makes all the more sense this is getting dragged for weeks.

Further, as I said in another thread, the Reaper's true devastating power comes from their attack strategy - attack the center of government, cut communications and use indoctrinaed agents in conjunction with blitz attacks.
All of these were rendered useless when Sovereign was killed and the Reaper embryo destroyed.

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I realized, if they just attack the mass relays straight up, then the combined forces can't get to each other, and its an instant reaper win.