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[miketwilight360]

The dude in the trailer only knows about the fighting on Earth. he isnt going to stop sniping bad dudes to go on and wait on the extranet to figure out if they are only shooting up humans. He isnt shepherd doesnt matter to him

[Mister_Shepard]

I think the one of the main objectives is to gather an army from different planets just like DA:O. So you probably won't be staying on Earth the whole game.

[Bocks]

You guys are underestimating the strength of a Reaper. Sovereign alone could stand up to the entire alliance fleet, and the only reason he was defeated was because Shepard defeated Saren while Sovereign was in control of him. An army from every race might be able to take on a few Reapers, but the entire fleet? I doubt it. Especially if they're close together.

[Nohvarr]

1. It may not be the entire fleet



2. When Navarra attacked the Citedel it was backed up by the Heretic Geth Fleet.

[Bocks]

Nohvarr wrote...

1. It may not be the entire fleet

2. When Navarra attacked the Citedel it was backed up by the Heretic Geth Fleet.

1: It's Nazara

2: The Heretic Geth Fleet was merely a distraction so Sovereign could get inside the Citadel.

[Nohvarr]

That still means it needed help to get inside, and that distraction did a good job tying up the citadel fleet. Also, it didn't attack until Saren was aboard, and able to prevent the ward arms from closing. So your nearly invincible machine required a force to infiltrate the Citadel and gain control of it's systems, then it needed the might of the Geth Heretics to get past the Citadel fleet and finally Shepard's actions threatened it enough that it took control of Saren's body in a desperate attempt to kill him before he did any more damage.



Reapers are powerful, not invincible, or infallible. ME 1 & ME 2 have proven that point.

[Bocks]

Nohvarr wrote...

That still means it needed help to get inside, and that distraction did a good job tying up the citadel fleet. Also, it didn't attack until Saren was aboard, and able to prevent the ward arms from closing. So your nearly invincible machine required a force to infiltrate the Citadel and gain control of it's systems, then it needed the might of the Geth Heretics to get past the Citadel fleet and finally Shepard's actions threatened it enough that it took control of Saren's body in a desperate attempt to kill him before he did any more damage.

Reapers are powerful, not invincible, or infallible. ME 1 & ME 2 have proven that point.

The "invincible" I used was more of a hyperbole. We've already killed one and a baby reaper - so we know they are capable of being destroyed.

The fact that Sovereign used the heretic geth doesn't mean anything. It needed servants to do the job for it, but even if they weren't there Sovereign would have been capable of destroying the entire citadel and alliance fleet single-handedly. His shields fell after Shepard killed Saren, severing the connection between Sovereign and the spectre.

[jojon2se]

When did the reapers ever care about whether people up for ascension are ok with the idea?

Nah; they are still here to harvest and want to avoid spoiling the crop - otherwise we wouldn't have lasted seven minutes.

They are not invincible by any means and are, for all their braggadario, unlikely to spread their forces thin - much safer to overwhelm opposition through superiority in numbers.

This is how they have worked before, when they had control of the relay network: isolate every region from each other, and then pick them off one by one. This time, they can not do the first part, but they can still disable relays locally, I'll wager, so I expect that immediately before the attack on earth, the intro of ME3, communications with our local cluster will be cut, leaving us unable to go there, until endgame.

There are also likely to be plenty of denial and rationalisations for the outage and possibly even a burst of misinformation as the last transmission, before relay access is pulled, which means that, yes; Shepard is still going to to have to convince everybody that the danger is real and that we must sieze this unusual opportunity to pool our resources against the reapers nibbling away on the galaxy.

It's going to be interesting to see how the reapers got here so fast and whether, through a strike of luck, or whatever, they all just happened to be hibernating outside the end of our spiral arm. (where we are, so they'd pretty much stumble across us first, whilst travelling inwards)

The defenders will want to be on the offense, I bet and one way or other, walk into the possible trap that Earth might be, because even the collected fleets of the galaxy is not by far large enough split even once.

[Sidac]

Attacking Earth really isnt all that stupid when you think about it. Ever heard the phrase "Cut off the head and the body dies"?

What race / person stopped the battle of the citadel? Human
What race / person destroyed / saved the collector base? Human
What race(s) didnt sit on their thumbs? Human

so when you think about it taking out the only one thats actually been kinda sorta prepping for the attack 1st would leave the rest defenceless. If you attack the weaker first the stronger can only get stronger. Which is why im doing everything in my power to lose the battle for Earth.

Although, I would like to see reaper attacks galaxy wide as well.

Modifié par Sidac, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:00 .

[Display Name Owner]

Well, the whole trailer was told from one human soldier's point of view. The way he described it, he has no idea what is going on beyond London amidst all that chaos. For all he knows (and us by extension), similar attacks are occuring all across the galaxy.



I was actually thinking whilst watching this, how cool it might be if Bioware released other teasers that were the same kind of thing as this one, only done from the point of view of a Salarian, Asari and Turian soldier during an attack on their respective homeworlds.

[Sidac]

isnudo wrote...

I was actually thinking whilst watching this, how cool it might be if Bioware released other teasers that were the same kind of thing as this one, only done from the point of view of a Salarian, Asari and Turian soldier during an attack on their respective homeworlds.

that would be AWESOME!

[kalle90]

isnudo wrote...

Well, the whole trailer was told from one human soldier's point of view. The way he described it, he has no idea what is going on beyond London amidst all that chaos. For all he knows (and us by extension), similar attacks are occuring all across the galaxy.

I was actually thinking whilst watching this, how cool it might be if Bioware released other teasers that were the same kind of thing as this one, only done from the point of view of a Salarian, Asari and Turian soldier during an attack on their respective homeworlds.

While Shepard is flying around in space? Without his former squadmates? Going to every world to battle and defeat the Reapers nearly single-handedly?

This is so confusing. Better that than spoiled though

[Saberchic]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I'm sure the whole Earth thing is only a small portion of the game. They chose it for the teaser because it looks appealing and many of us were hoping for it.

I totally agree. I think, if anything, Earth will most likely be one of the last places to be focused on in game.

[TheCreeper]

I believe the Reapers are going to focus on Earth and other human planets because they believe that humanity (RE: Shepard) is the only real threat/ species worthy of being turned into reapers so they figure if they can knock out humanity before the Citadel can really react they have already totally won.

[JrayM16]

If all Reapers attacked Earth at once, Earth, wouldn't last a week. We've already seen one Reaper give the entire Citadel fleet a run for its money(albeit with a geth fleet). My gues is that the Reapers are also attacking key locations throughout the galaxy, hence Shepard's difficulties in getting help for Earth.

[Remus Artega]

Saberchic wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I'm sure the whole Earth thing is only a small portion of the game. They chose it for the teaser because it looks appealing and many of us were hoping for it.

I totally agree. I think, if anything, Earth will most likely be one of the last places to be focused on in game.

I hope for that too...let it not end up like Me2/DA:O ripoff...

[atheelogos]

Remus Artega wrote...

 I only hope Walters doesn't dumb down reapers inteligence even more by attacking only Earth because that would be the dumbest thing to do... I hope that they are spread out in the galaxy and Earth is mentioned only as one of the planets which are under attack since what kind of general would sit on one planet while everyone out there is gathering strenght...

They went to earth first because they want humans to be like them. For better or worse we've been chosen. Play ME2 it explains all this.

[jmood88]

kalle90 wrote...

isnudo wrote...

Well, the whole trailer was told from one human soldier's point of view. The way he described it, he has no idea what is going on beyond London amidst all that chaos. For all he knows (and us by extension), similar attacks are occuring all across the galaxy.

I was actually thinking whilst watching this, how cool it might be if Bioware released other teasers that were the same kind of thing as this one, only done from the point of view of a Salarian, Asari and Turian soldier during an attack on their respective homeworlds.

While Shepard is flying around in space? Without his former squadmates? Going to every world to battle and defeat the Reapers nearly single-handedly?

This is so confusing. Better that than spoiled though

Where are you getting the idea that Shepard is by himself?

[Nohvarr]

Bocks wrote...

The fact that Sovereign used the heretic geth doesn't mean anything. It needed servants to do the job for it, but even if they weren't there Sovereign would have been capable of destroying the entire citadel and alliance fleet single-handedly. His shields fell after Shepard killed Saren, severing the connection between Sovereign and the spectre.

I'm sorry but I have to call foul. Vigil points out that Sovereign lacked the power to take on the Citadel fleet. It's one of the things you can ask it on Ilos. So no, one lone Reaper is not enough to take on the entire Citadel fleet. If it was the Reapers wouldn't have bothered with the Geth.

JrayM16 wrote...

If all Reapers attacked Earth at once, Earth, wouldn't last a week. We've already seen one Reaper give the entire Citadel fleet a run for its money(albeit with a geth fleet).

Not entirely accurate. Sovereign launched a surprise attack on the fleet, while Saren had control of the Citadel. It didn't fight the Fleet but rushed past it, counting on the Geth to tie up pursuit, while Saren closed the ward arms to prevent anyone else from attacking it. The Human 5th fleet (with varying degrees of loss) assaulted Soverign and forced it to defend itself. It wouldn't have begun firing weapons if it's shields could ward off all attacks indefinatly. It was losing and it knew it. So if fifth fleet could take one Reaper two years ago, then fleets 1-4 should be able to slow an assault on earth.

Modifié par Nohvarr, 12 décembre 2010 - 07:25 .

[Captain_Justin]

i'm sure the citadel is a target too.

[NvVanity]

I'd say the Reapers found a way to get to Earth from Darkspace fast and they've disabled the Charon Mass Relay to prevent anyone from getting to them. Meanwhile they indocrinate the population on Earth and convert them into their invasion force. Then they'll head to the Citadel followed by the capital planets for all the council races.

[BigBody26]

I hope we fight a battle on Earth very early in the game....get our butts kicked, lose a ME2 squadmate or 2, have to fall back, and then find some way to defeat the Reapers while also trying to gather the combined forces of the other species. After doing all that, THEN we go back to face the Reapers. Hopefully by that point there will be next to nothing left of Earth to save.

[Blacklash93]

We don't know the whole story yet. I don't think the Reapers would be so stupid as to just target one species and one planet while ignoring Shepard and the rest of the entire Galactic community which could very well band together to oppose them and strike at full force.

The most practical strategy would be to dominate the Galaxy before attempting their reproduction process again. It's much less risky.

Still, I'd wait for more info before jumping to conclusions.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 12 décembre 2010 - 11:13 .