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#126
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When you have billions of billions of enemy forces at your disposal you can split them into Legions and send units w/in those Legions to attack other worlds while the bulk of your forces may hang around Earth they will be sending forces from there but in the initial attack phase or first wave attack they will or should target Earth and any major outlying planets and if all other alien worlds aren't close to the outer ring of the milky way they can at least attack strategically colonies that produce high amounts of fuel, research, manufacturing, and general supplies to disrupt and put at a disadvantage in the upcoming waves that will be issued to them.



Earth should be able to hold out till half way through the game then 100% fall ie no resistance left I think after a week 7million dead in London means most forces are going to be gone in a month so resistance will need to take up the remaining void left by very little armed forces. But mid game Earth would be all reaper food or reaper puppets and add to the force of the reapers.



I think if the game started off with Earth hit first then Shep would have priority to save Earth and Secondary to save other races then if Earth falls mid game he will switch Save aliens will become priority and secondary maintaining security for human colonies.

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Remus Artega wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?



:devil:


People like to make assumptions. You know that.

Assumption made on previous experience...and don't tell me Harbinger was as bloodcurdling as Sovereign was...they have to regain their former glory as truly formidable and intelligent opponents and not some random one line spouting babblers...

And Chris I said that I HOPE that it WON'T be that way...and that this time around Mr. Walters will read wiki more thoroughly....:innocent: 


I wholeheartedly believe Sovereign was more intimidating than Harbinger.

I still think the most badass moment of the ME franchise was speaking to Sovereign on Virmire.

After that, entering the Omega 4 Relay.

Nothing about Harbinger stacks up. Not even remotely.

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Yeah, everything about Sovereign, his voice, his confidence, even his actions....were just.....dominant in comparison to Harbinger. Harbinger was more of an annoyance in fact. I really hope he isn't the lead Reaper....even though thats where it looks things are headed.

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LPPrince wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?



:devil:


People like to make assumptions. You know that.

Assumption made on previous experience...and don't tell me Harbinger was as bloodcurdling as Sovereign was...they have to regain their former glory as truly formidable and intelligent opponents and not some random one line spouting babblers...

And Chris I said that I HOPE that it WON'T be that way...and that this time around Mr. Walters will read wiki more thoroughly....:innocent: 


I wholeheartedly believe Sovereign was more intimidating than Harbinger.

I still think the most badass moment of the ME franchise was speaking to Sovereign on Virmire.

After that, entering the Omega 4 Relay.

Nothing about Harbinger stacks up. Not even remotely.


Indeed.  My eyes opened wide and my balls receded when I heard Sovereign.

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Kane-Corr wrote...

Yeah, everything about Sovereign, his voice, his confidence, even his actions....were just.....dominant in comparison to Harbinger. Harbinger was more of an annoyance in fact. I really hope he isn't the lead Reaper....even though thats where it looks things are headed.


Pff, since neither the "Human-Reaper" make sense in the way people brag about it right now as being evidence and process of Reaper reproduction, I think Harbinger was just some annoying little boy they let play with some conveniently interest drawing experiment long already deemed of only tertiary interest and the rest of the Reapers being even better than Sovereign!

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Kane-Corr wrote...

Yeah, everything about Sovereign, his voice, his confidence, even his actions....were just.....dominant in comparison to Harbinger. Harbinger was more of an annoyance in fact. I really hope he isn't the lead Reaper....even though thats where it looks things are headed.


Indeed IMO i thought harbinger (job) is the puppet master/creating new reapers...due to the meaning  ..Harbinger, a person or thing that announces or indicates the approach of something; forerunner, aka human ascension!

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To be honest, I'm hoping Harbinger gets destroyed rather quickly into ME3 and we find out Sovereign's entity is still around.



And that Sovereign is the leader. It wouldn't make sense outright(why would the leader of the Reapers be the vanguard left alone in the Milky Way?), but they could find a way to explain it.

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LPPrince wrote...

To be honest, I'm hoping Harbinger gets destroyed rather quickly into ME3 and we find out Sovereign's entity is still around.

And that Sovereign is the leader. It wouldn't make sense outright(why would the leader of the Reapers be the vanguard left alone in the Milky Way?), but they could find a way to explain it.


I know an explanation. They were drawing pylons and Sovereign has the biggest Image IPB

#135
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Since Sovereign was...gah, that'd be an ME2 spoiler.



You remember what Legion said about "them".



I figure Sovereign can still exist.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?



:devil:




Well, the dumbing down started with ME2 so I suppose you're correct,  it's not sudden.  Image IPB

Oooo, i'm evil.  Image IPB

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Sovereign is now small pieces of scrap because he was overconfident and arrogant. He talked a great game, but couldn't back it up. Harbinger in ME2 had a bit too much to say for himself too, but in the end, we never even encountered the actual Reaper Harbinger - just his collector puppets. Harbinger has ME3 to show us what the Reapers are capable of - Sovereign had his shot and failed.

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GHOST OF FRUITY wrote...

Sovereign is now small pieces of scrap because he was overconfident and arrogant. He talked a great game, but couldn't back it up. Harbinger in ME2 had a bit too much to say for himself too, but in the end, we never even encountered the actual Reaper Harbinger - just his collector puppets. Harbinger has ME3 to show us what the Reapers are capable of - Sovereign had his shot and failed.


Failed but does not made anyone left doubting about the horrors to come...on the other hand Harbinger...ehm...

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If they wanted to, it wouldn't be that hard to bring back Sovereign the Cyclon way, in a new Reaper form...HEY! That could be why the Collectors were building a new Reaper form, to provide a new platform for Sovereign. (it would also make the Reaper's less dependent on organic life, and therefore a bit more intimidating. Than our current conceptions of them at least.)

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Sovereign just needs to be back. As for Saren, some more mentions of him would be nice. ME2 was seriously lacking enough mentions of Mr. Arterius.

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Yes, I do miss Saren. Its nice when the main villain has personality.

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Again, we haven't met Harbinger yet - just his puppets. I would rather see what Harbinger can do in person rather than trolling Shepard through the Collectors. Harbinger would have been better if he's just said nothing really! :)

Sovereign certainly showed us what the Reapers are capable of, and he had that impressive voice to boot - in the end though, he's a failure. An impressive failure certainly, but a failure nonetheless.   Loved that voice though - Harbinger wasn't a patch on Sovereign for vocal performance!

Modifié par GHOST OF FRUITY, 14 décembre 2010 - 08:14 .


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LPPrince wrote...

Sovereign just needs to be back. As for Saren, some more mentions of him would be nice. ME2 was seriously lacking enough mentions of Mr. Arterius.

It severly lacked in any kind of dignified opponent to be honest..

Modifié par Remus Artega, 14 décembre 2010 - 08:22 .


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Earth is a psychological target. It's not necessarily a militarily strategic target but the shock of one's homeworld being destroyed would really hurt morale and give the entire galaxy an insecure feeling. It could also sew distrust among everyone if aliens don't help humans immediately.

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Orion55 wrote...

Yes, I do miss Saren. Its nice when the main villain has personality.

Remus Artega wrote...

It severly lacked in any kind of dignified opponent to be honest..


Yeah, that was a little disappointing. We didn't have that one villain with a personality that we ran into. We just had no name Collectors, a General we never met, and Harbinger who just won't shut up.

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Harbinger should not have been in the game at all or maybe at the very end there could have been some sort of convo between him and Shep after the defeating of the General...someting Virmire style... but the whole talking of Harbinger was simply too human...why telling the Collector General that he dissapointed him...why not simply log out... no "cool" words like you failed yet again we will find another way...boohoo fear mee I am Biotic God 2.0

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Sovereign was just so cool. I think that yeah, Harbinger was the secondary guy to take the reigns, and that we'll probably see like a gigantic reaper (in comparison to the others) advancing upon the Organic fleet....which is the first one ever constructed. Because honestly....I hate Harbinger. Every time I hear him now I think of the bland Collecters and someone who put on a Darth Vader mask and had a bit too much fun.



Sovereign was a threat, a true villain, the messenger of death that represented the Reapers in all their entirety. Harbinger hid behind a villain that failed so much more than Saren and Sovereign did.



I mean, WE a band of like 30 people total took teh fight to the Collecters at THEIR home. Sovereign was able to indoctrinate Saren and basically get an entire Geth species to follow him to infiltrate the Citadel, AND ALMOST SUCCEEDED. What did Harbginer and the Collecters succeed at? Oh.....nothing.

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Remus Artega wrote...

Harbinger should not have been in the game at all or maybe at the very end there could have been some sort of convo between him and Shep after the defeating of the General...someting Virmire style... but the whole talking of Harbinger was simply too human...why telling the Collector General that he dissapointed him...why not simply log out... no "cool" words like you failed yet again we will find another way...boohoo fear mee I am Biotic God 2.0



I very much agree.  I don't think the voice for Harbinger was right at all.  Sovereign you knew right away that you were talking to something that was unmistakably alien.  Harbinger that sadly wasn't the case, certainly not in ME2 anyway.  I only hope that when Shepard encounters Harbinger in person in ME3, that the Reaper can redeem itself in terms of menace.  It kind of needs to.  If Harbinger is the Reaper leader as implied, then he needs to do as Sovereign did in the first game - remind the player of why the Reapers are entities to be feared.   Harbinger could and should be a great villian.  Hopefully in ME3 he will be. 

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Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.


There is another future "I support this...." in Mass Effect Group just waiting to happen.