Only Earth?
#126
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:19
Earth should be able to hold out till half way through the game then 100% fall ie no resistance left I think after a week 7million dead in London means most forces are going to be gone in a month so resistance will need to take up the remaining void left by very little armed forces. But mid game Earth would be all reaper food or reaper puppets and add to the force of the reapers.
I think if the game started off with Earth hit first then Shep would have priority to save Earth and Secondary to save other races then if Earth falls mid game he will switch Save aliens will become priority and secondary maintaining security for human colonies.
#127
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:24
Remus Artega wrote...
Assumption made on previous experience...and don't tell me Harbinger was as bloodcurdling as Sovereign was...they have to regain their former glory as truly formidable and intelligent opponents and not some random one line spouting babblers...LPPrince wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.
You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?
People like to make assumptions. You know that.
And Chris I said that I HOPE that it WON'T be that way...and that this time around Mr. Walters will read wiki more thoroughly....:innocent:
I wholeheartedly believe Sovereign was more intimidating than Harbinger.
I still think the most badass moment of the ME franchise was speaking to Sovereign on Virmire.
After that, entering the Omega 4 Relay.
Nothing about Harbinger stacks up. Not even remotely.
#128
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Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:25
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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
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Ahh well, least it's never dull on the Bioware forums,
[...]
Well, after Red Alert 3 and CnC(F)4(IL), the once so hilarious CnC-Forums are dead to few psychotic members chaoting the Offtopic Session (me included of course).
Ever since these Forums have become my bread and butter to stay sane (or insane, however you would interpret my state of mind *meow*). I will positively not let this forums become dull as long as I have internet connection and utilities to write on these boards, fortunately, there is little reason to pull out my "dark-forum"-side as long as it is as lively in here.
Only one thing left to say:
W00TZ
#129
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:27
#130
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Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:28
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LPPrince wrote...
Remus Artega wrote...
Assumption made on previous experience...and don't tell me Harbinger was as bloodcurdling as Sovereign was...they have to regain their former glory as truly formidable and intelligent opponents and not some random one line spouting babblers...LPPrince wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.
You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?
People like to make assumptions. You know that.
And Chris I said that I HOPE that it WON'T be that way...and that this time around Mr. Walters will read wiki more thoroughly....:innocent:
I wholeheartedly believe Sovereign was more intimidating than Harbinger.
I still think the most badass moment of the ME franchise was speaking to Sovereign on Virmire.
After that, entering the Omega 4 Relay.
Nothing about Harbinger stacks up. Not even remotely.
Indeed. My eyes opened wide and my balls receded when I heard Sovereign.
#131
Guest_Aotearas_*
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:30
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Kane-Corr wrote...
Yeah, everything about Sovereign, his voice, his confidence, even his actions....were just.....dominant in comparison to Harbinger. Harbinger was more of an annoyance in fact. I really hope he isn't the lead Reaper....even though thats where it looks things are headed.
Pff, since neither the "Human-Reaper" make sense in the way people brag about it right now as being evidence and process of Reaper reproduction, I think Harbinger was just some annoying little boy they let play with some conveniently interest drawing experiment long already deemed of only tertiary interest and the rest of the Reapers being even better than Sovereign!
#132
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:32
Kane-Corr wrote...
Yeah, everything about Sovereign, his voice, his confidence, even his actions....were just.....dominant in comparison to Harbinger. Harbinger was more of an annoyance in fact. I really hope he isn't the lead Reaper....even though thats where it looks things are headed.
Indeed IMO i thought harbinger (job) is the puppet master/creating new reapers...due to the meaning ..Harbinger, a person or thing that announces or indicates the approach of something; forerunner, aka human ascension!
#133
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:33
And that Sovereign is the leader. It wouldn't make sense outright(why would the leader of the Reapers be the vanguard left alone in the Milky Way?), but they could find a way to explain it.
#134
Guest_Aotearas_*
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:42
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LPPrince wrote...
To be honest, I'm hoping Harbinger gets destroyed rather quickly into ME3 and we find out Sovereign's entity is still around.
And that Sovereign is the leader. It wouldn't make sense outright(why would the leader of the Reapers be the vanguard left alone in the Milky Way?), but they could find a way to explain it.
I know an explanation. They were drawing pylons and Sovereign has the biggest
#135
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:44
You remember what Legion said about "them".
I figure Sovereign can still exist.
#136
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:47
Chris Priestly wrote...
It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.
You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?
Well, the dumbing down started with ME2 so I suppose you're correct, it's not sudden.
Oooo, i'm evil.
#137
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 07:56
#138
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:02
GHOST OF FRUITY wrote...
Sovereign is now small pieces of scrap because he was overconfident and arrogant. He talked a great game, but couldn't back it up. Harbinger in ME2 had a bit too much to say for himself too, but in the end, we never even encountered the actual Reaper Harbinger - just his collector puppets. Harbinger has ME3 to show us what the Reapers are capable of - Sovereign had his shot and failed.
Failed but does not made anyone left doubting about the horrors to come...on the other hand Harbinger...ehm...
#139
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:06
#140
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:08
#141
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:09
#142
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:12
#143
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:13
Sovereign certainly showed us what the Reapers are capable of, and he had that impressive voice to boot - in the end though, he's a failure. An impressive failure certainly, but a failure nonetheless. Loved that voice though - Harbinger wasn't a patch on Sovereign for vocal performance!
Modifié par GHOST OF FRUITY, 14 décembre 2010 - 08:14 .
#144
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:13
It severly lacked in any kind of dignified opponent to be honest..LPPrince wrote...
Sovereign just needs to be back. As for Saren, some more mentions of him would be nice. ME2 was seriously lacking enough mentions of Mr. Arterius.
Modifié par Remus Artega, 14 décembre 2010 - 08:22 .
#145
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:16
#146
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:16
Orion55 wrote...
Yes, I do miss Saren. Its nice when the main villain has personality.
Remus Artega wrote...
It severly lacked in any kind of dignified opponent to be honest..
Yeah, that was a little disappointing. We didn't have that one villain with a personality that we ran into. We just had no name Collectors, a General we never met, and Harbinger who just won't shut up.
#147
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:22
#148
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:31
Sovereign was a threat, a true villain, the messenger of death that represented the Reapers in all their entirety. Harbinger hid behind a villain that failed so much more than Saren and Sovereign did.
I mean, WE a band of like 30 people total took teh fight to the Collecters at THEIR home. Sovereign was able to indoctrinate Saren and basically get an entire Geth species to follow him to infiltrate the Citadel, AND ALMOST SUCCEEDED. What did Harbginer and the Collecters succeed at? Oh.....nothing.
#149
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:35
Remus Artega wrote...
Harbinger should not have been in the game at all or maybe at the very end there could have been some sort of convo between him and Shep after the defeating of the General...someting Virmire style... but the whole talking of Harbinger was simply too human...why telling the Collector General that he dissapointed him...why not simply log out... no "cool" words like you failed yet again we will find another way...boohoo fear mee I am Biotic God 2.0
I very much agree. I don't think the voice for Harbinger was right at all. Sovereign you knew right away that you were talking to something that was unmistakably alien. Harbinger that sadly wasn't the case, certainly not in ME2 anyway. I only hope that when Shepard encounters Harbinger in person in ME3, that the Reaper can redeem itself in terms of menace. It kind of needs to. If Harbinger is the Reaper leader as implied, then he needs to do as Sovereign did in the first game - remind the player of why the Reapers are entities to be feared. Harbinger could and should be a great villian. Hopefully in ME3 he will be.
#150
Posté 14 décembre 2010 - 08:40
Chris Priestly wrote...
It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.
There is another future "I support this...." in Mass Effect Group just waiting to happen.





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