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[lucylips000]

Wait....Didn't people complain when we were never able to go to Earth? And now it sounds like we do get to go and now people want to complain about going :/

[amillian]

Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?

what he said of course you could clear up the confusion by telling us something. :devil:

[Orion55]

lucylips000 wrote...

Orion55 wrote...

What ME3 needs is for the relationship between the Villain and Shepherd to be personal. Personally, I think there should be a traitor within Shepherd's ranks. Someone we've known from the beginning and trust. Then mid way through the game it turns out they are either indoctrinated or under direct control by a Reaper (A new one, not harbinger) resulting in the death of a crew member (Someone we care about, not some no name dude who sits in the corner pressing buttons.)

I know some people would say "NOOO!! I dont wants mi favort persun to dies!!" But it is the end of the trilogy, and some good guys have to die. Its the best way to create drama, emotion and true hatred for the enemy and potentially the main villain.

The traitor will proably be Joker and he proably doesn't have brittle bone syndrom...it was all just a lie(Just look at the stuff he does at the end) LOL

or The evil person will turn and kill Joker and all my hopes and dreams of romancing him will be over either way lol.

Actually I was thinking someone who was introduced in the second game. Since the reapers do not know of shepherd until the end of the first game. Betrayal and the death of a love/friend create the ultimate hatred towards a villain. These two elements need to be in ME3.

Modifié par Orion55, 15 décembre 2010 - 12:13 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

Some people are suggesting Sovereign could come back the cylon way but the cylons after one form died their memories went into the second form that was waiting in a jump center. I suppose it went something like this say Cylon$6 gets spaced she has info she gathered and committed to memory before she spaces herself ie killing the body of 6 but sense she was close to a revival center her data (memories) are picked up by data center a clone body of 6’s shell is there I guess the attendants in that area get sometype of notice that a 6 has died and data transfer is now occurring so pull a shell and get it ready for full transfer they do that all of the data/memories form spaced 6 (including how it felt for her to die in such away) are written into the new shell of 6 she can now contact any cylon ships that need to be told the info she knows before shipping out and playing spy again. This works for human or metal cylons I can’t see this process being done hours to days after a large reaper is killed unless they tote a ship yard around to build a new shell for “dead” reaper data/memories it would not be do able there is no status available for such a large ship. I think Sovereigns done for but I assume all reapers have his sunny personality so if we talk to anymore they should sound similar and be just as friendly. Also another thing about the jump centers was that in order to stop all rebooting of cylons in that sector you had to destroy the jump center if Reapers have jump centers its where they’ll protect it most and we’ll have to blow that up but there is always more then one at any time moving around kind of like how there are two air force ones flying at the same time so you can’t tell which is real or fake.



As far as weighing in on the badassets of Harbinger….like Raiden he will be on my destroy list I hate that guy! He’s the largest trash talker in history I don’t think Mordin talks as much as he does! If Harbinger ends up being the shadowy, deep voice, and serious bad guy in 3 and I find out its him I’m still going to be laughing my head off and really not impressed hell if I could I’d just take a knife to the battle to make it challenging! And maybe just to make it fair on him I’ll tie a hand behind my back! I feel not intimidation from him just like I can’t see dobby Raiden as anything but a whinny kid.



Also no more terminator babies in 3 please BW!!!! For that matter no terminators period!



Speaking of matrix I hope the ending of 3 doesn’t consist of us waking up in some pod on a reaper ship and we’re next on the menu!

[Skilled Seeker]

Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?

Welcome to the Bioware forums, home of irrational paranoid fools.

[Skilled Seeker]

lucylips000 wrote...

Wait....Didn't people complain when we were never able to go to Earth? And now it sounds like we do get to go and now people want to complain about going :/

Thing is when people are happy about something they don't tend to voice their approval which is a shame to me as I always do and it helps the developers get a more balanced review. When they are unhappy however they will b*tch and moan. Just like people b*tched about the MAKO in ME1. Now its gone and people are b*tching thats its gone and none of the original b*tchers are defending Bioware's decision.

For example those who dislike ME2's direction are partially to blame for it. They didn't voice their approval of aspects of ME1 that are gone like elevators or uncharted worlds while those that disliked it voiced their disapproval. So the developers think the majority want said features gone and scrap them.

Therefore its just as important to defend and praise what you like about a game as it is to voice your concerns about what you don't like. If you don't voice your approval about something that gets a lot of disapproval then chances are in the next installment it will be gone.

My point is, the forums give a very pessimistic view of things so don't take them too seriously.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 15 décembre 2010 - 12:19 .

[Orion55]

Destroy Raiden wrote...
 As far as weighing in on the badassets of Harbinger….like Raiden he will be on my destroy list I hate that guy! He’s the largest trash talker in history I don’t think Mordin talks as much as he does! If Harbinger ends up being the shadowy, deep voice, and serious bad guy in 3 and I find out its him I’m still going to be laughing my head off and really not impressed hell if I could I’d just take a knife to the battle to make it challenging! And maybe just to make it fair on him I’ll tie a hand behind my back! I feel not intimidation from him just like I can’t see dobby Raiden as anything but a whinny kid. 

I hope we kill Harbinger early in the game. Then an uber reaper is introduced. A reaper that is as cold and mechanical as Sovereign. Who is calculating, not arrogant, and gives us a reason to hate it on a deep and personal level. Not just because it's out to kill everyone and stopping it is the right thing to do.

[sympathy4saren]

Yeah we aren't the developer. We are the customer. You know, the ones who pay the money for the product?



I'm stunned by people's opinion of the Reapers. They aren't Covenant. They aren't a typical "big, bad powerful alien". They are Reapers. They have no beginning. They have no end. You and I cannot even grasp the nature of their existence. They are knowing...we are bacteria. Sovereign was destroyed because it decided to leave its body and take control of Saren, a husk. This lowered its shields, and Joker connected. The human Reaper was killed because it was an embryo. Reapers have no reason to be afraid of us...we merely have their attention. They see potential in us, and dream of functions we could serve for them.



Reapers, in essence of their characterization without being ruined by Mac Walters, would attack earth at the same time as other planets. It is more efficient...anything more efficient is something a Reaper, immensely wise and intelligent, would do. They aren't afraid of an attack. See how terrified they are in their assault on Earth from the trailer? One Reaper....one...decimated the full Turian fleet and most of humanity's. Sure, Sovereign had Geth help. But what does that mean, really? Harbinger: "Geth. An annoyance. Limited utility." If the Reapers were a little hesitant of humanity...which is indeed more the case cause of Shepard and their lust for him for their purposes, they would just have a scout or two sitting at the Charon relay, ready for anybody in or out of the system.



Why? Because that is the most logical thing to do. And if me and others see this, most certainly Reapers do. That is, until Mac Walters gets his hands on the script.



Miss ya, Drew. I see 4 to 5 plot holes a-coming.

[ReveurIngenu]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?

Welcome to the Bioware forums, home of irrational paranoid fools.

There's not just the trailer, but also EA's description of Mass Effect 3 on their website:

"Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race.
As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final
mission to take back the Earth." 

We went from a Galaxy-wide threat in ME1 to just a threat to humans.  Instead of having to save the galaxy, you just have to save the humans because humans are so special that the Reapers only want to destroy them.

I really feel that'll be the bulk of the story, saving Earth and humans from the reapers.  While I don't doubt that there'll be more to the game, I think everything we've seen and read of so far all point towards a very Earth-centric conclusion.

The Reaper's are a Galaxy-wide threat, who have destroyed so many past civilizations.  No matter how much we all like being human, ending the trilogy with such an Earth and human-centric plot really doesn't do justice to ME1 and to the Mass Effect universe.

I feel I might actually skip this game if it turns out that only humanity is threatened.  And the whole argument that the Reapers are fascinated by Shepard and so feel humans are a threat and so only go after the humans is complete crap.  I would have liked to see a conclusion where the who galaxy has to work together to save the galaxy, where everyone has to put aside their differences to defeat the Reapers.

Instead, we're getting another hollywood style ending where one person will save the galaxy, human of course.  I can understand that we're humans and thus want to see humans do things, but I really feel that that's quite exaggerated. 

Why is it that in science-fiction (Star Trek, Stargate, etc), alien species are all so one-sided, but only the humans are complexe, diverse, varied?  Why must only humans be an interesting race?<_<

Modifié par ReveurIngenu, 15 décembre 2010 - 12:28 .

[Orion55]

ReveurIngenu wrote...
Why is it that in science-fiction (Star Trek, Stargate, etc), alien species are all so one-sided, but only the humans are complexe, diverse, varied?  Why must only humans be an interesting race?<_<

Porbably because it would take 50,000 years to come up with someting as complexe, diversed, and varied as humans...

[Skilled Seeker]

All alien races are based on human concepts anyway. We wouldn't be able to understand something totally alien. Like the Reapers.

[DTKT]

[quote It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.



You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?[/quote]



Elcor can have babies? Oh god, I dont feel so well now...

[RideUrLightning]

scarface71795 wrote...

I think the alliance has put the Normandy class into full Production and are going to use them against the Reapers

There would be no point. The Normandy not only costs more than any other vessel, but it's a stealth frigate and really wouldn't do much damage. It couldn't even escape a Collector ship.

[Skilled Seeker]

scarface71795 wrote...

I think the alliance has put the Normandy class into full Production and are going to use them against the Reapers

I hope the Alliance isn't that retarded or the galaxy is doomed.

[Darth_Ultima]

Like others have said. We don't know anything yet. Advertising only sums up whats in a actual game. Mass Effect games are huge 40+ hr games and people are going to complain about it based on a 1 minute trailer? Sovereign said that the Reapers numbers would blacken the sky of every world in the galaxy. I for one would think that means more worlds then Earth are being attacked but we also know that because Shepard threw a wrench in there plans twice we know the Reapers have taken a special interest in the human race. I for one am excited to see what Earth looks like in the Mass Effect universe.

Modifié par Darth_Ultima, 15 décembre 2010 - 12:54 .

[IBPROFEN]

"Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of

terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As

Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind

is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final

mission to take back the earth."



Well, unles some new DLC comes out that above is wrong. Cause Shepard isn't an Alliance Marine(they didn't reinstate him in ME2). He's a Spectre. As, far as Earth is burning I only see a small portion of it on fire. I think if its an the final battle there would be more places burning.And, alot more reapers.Even reapers in orbit around Earth(bombing it).

[Nohvarr]

AwesomeName wrote...

Indeed, here is the current game description:

"Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to take back the earth."

I would like to see the "Earth" replaced with "galaxy" and "humanity"/"mankind" replaced with "galactic civilisation"

1 minute teaser aside, I don't know what else we're supposed to think ME3 will be about.

The same thing it's always been about, being the spear tip of humanity, the one to tear out the throat of those who threaten your people and galactic stability. A short blurb that was, like the trailer, designed to get people's attention is not sufficent information to start crying foul/doom/etc over.
 
If, in your efforts to market a game, you want to catch someone's attention and impress upon them the gravity of the situation in a very short piece of time, show their homeworld burning. You'll have their attention then.

Modifié par Nohvarr, 15 décembre 2010 - 01:27 .

[redbaron76]

Earth is irrelevant. It is not even the capital of systems alliance. It is the homeworlod of the human race and also has the largest human population of system alliance worlds. And it is also closest to the edge of galaxy, so it would be the first world attacked. And it is only world that would able reapers sufficient number of humans for a new reaper and more husks.

[Skilled Seeker]

redbaron76 wrote...

Earth is irrelevant. It is not even the capital of systems alliance. It is the homeworlod of the human race and also has the largest human population of system alliance worlds. And it is also closest to the edge of galaxy, so it would be the first world attacked. And it is only world that would able reapers sufficient number of humans for a new reaper and more husks.

So how is it irrelevant then? You realise the vast majority of the human population is still on earth?

[redbaron76]

yes. But it is not the capital planet and if it is lost. System alliance will still be there. If you check in ME 1and 2 System aAlliance capital is in arcturus station. So los of earth is still irrelevant.

[The-Person]

ReveurIngenu wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

It is this kind of OP that makes me want to punch a baby elcor.

You have seen 1 minute of a trailer on ME3 and suddenly the writers are dumbing down the game? Really? Really?

Welcome to the Bioware forums, home of irrational paranoid fools.

There's not just the trailer, but also EA's description of Mass Effect 3 on their website:

"Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race.
As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final
mission to take back the Earth." 

We went from a Galaxy-wide threat in ME1 to just a threat to humans.  Instead of having to save the galaxy, you just have to save the humans because humans are so special that the Reapers only want to destroy them.

I really feel that'll be the bulk of the story, saving Earth and humans from the reapers.  While I don't doubt that there'll be more to the game, I think everything we've seen and read of so far all point towards a very Earth-centric conclusion.

The Reaper's are a Galaxy-wide threat, who have destroyed so many past civilizations.  No matter how much we all like being human, ending the trilogy with such an Earth and human-centric plot really doesn't do justice to ME1 and to the Mass Effect universe.

I feel I might actually skip this game if it turns out that only humanity is threatened.  And the whole argument that the Reapers are fascinated by Shepard and so feel humans are a threat and so only go after the humans is complete crap.  I would have liked to see a conclusion where the who galaxy has to work together to save the galaxy, where everyone has to put aside their differences to defeat the Reapers.

Instead, we're getting another hollywood style ending where one person will save the galaxy, human of course.  I can understand that we're humans and thus want to see humans do things, but I really feel that that's quite exaggerated. 

Why is it that in science-fiction (Star Trek, Stargate, etc), alien species are all so one-sided, but only the humans are complexe, diverse, varied?  Why must only humans be an interesting race?<_<

You actually think humanity is the only one that is going to be threatned? Earth right now is the one being attacked, but that doesn't mean they are just going to leave after they destroyed Earth. Anyways the whole series was about humans. Mass effect 1 was about humans growing into the galatic community. I mean the main charcter is a Human. The series was never about the aliens, they are just a back drop. I mean it was humans who save the citadel in ME1, but nobody seems to complain about that,

[redbaron76]

Plus, shepard will still be able to save some population of earth.

[The-Person]

redbaron76 wrote...

yes. But it is not the capital planet and if it is lost. System alliance will still be there. If you check in ME 1and 2 System aAlliance capital is in arcturus station. So los of earth is still irrelevant.

Except Earth is where most of the Alliance recruits are coming from. The largest human colony contains 4 million people in it, Earth contain 11 billion.