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[Johnsen1972]

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

Modifié par Johnsen1972, 15 décembre 2010 - 01:46 .

[redbaron76]

No. Earth only provised 8 percent of alliance recruits since only 18 Earth Nations are members of System alliance, and that is according to codex if you have read it.



The-Person Except Earth is where most of the Alliance recruits are coming from. The largest human colony contains 4 million people in it, Earth contain 11 billion.

[Skilled Seeker]

redbaron76 wrote...

yes. But it is not the capital planet and if it is lost. System alliance will still be there. If you check in ME 1and 2 System aAlliance capital is in arcturus station. So los of earth is still irrelevant.

This comment is worth a thousand facepalms. As is the above comment.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 15 décembre 2010 - 02:09 .

[The-Person]

redbaron76 wrote...

No. Earth only provised 8 percent of alliance recruits since only 18 Earth Nations are members of System alliance, and that is according to codex if you have read it.

The-Person Except Earth is where most of the Alliance recruits are coming from. The largest human colony contains 4 million people in it, Earth contain 11 billion.

Were do you get that 8 percent from?  The codex doesn't state how many recruit come from colonys vs Earth. Those 18 nations probably still have billions of people all together. Also 18 nations signed it, it doesn't mean people from nations that didn't sign can not join the alliance miliary.

[piemanz]

Looking at the the numbers of reapers decending on the galaxy at the end of ME2 i would say only a small portion are hitting earth.If they all hit earth it would be game over fairly quickly.

Also sovreign said  their numbers would darken the sky's of every world.I really don't see why you would assume it will revolve around earth based on a 1 minute trailer.

I expect most of the big targets like the home worlds of the main species are getting hit just the same as we are.

Modifié par piemanz, 15 décembre 2010 - 02:25 .

[sympathy4saren]

I wish the Reapers would come to Earth immediately and utterly destroy the stupid planet completely so it won't have to be in the rest of the game.



Yes, we are this serious about this.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

No it is not logical. So one human destroy's an unfinished reaper, all Reapers assume "HUR DUR all humans must be like Shepard!! Kill Them all!!". Assuming all humans are as capable as Shepard is very illogical.

[piemanz]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

No it is not logical. So one human destroy's an unfinished reaper, all Reapers assume "HUR DUR all humans must be like Shepard!! Kill Them all!!". Assuming all humans are as capable as Shepard is very illogical.

Well it's completely logical if you actually followed the story and  realised that the reapers can use the humans to reproduce, unlike every other species.

[Pwner1323]

They're Reapers, they don't know jack squat about humanity. Shepard kills one and they start abducting every human they see. What does that tell you?

[PARAGON87]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

No it is not logical. So one human destroy's an unfinished reaper, all Reapers assume "HUR DUR all humans must be like Shepard!! Kill Them all!!". Assuming all humans are as capable as Shepard is very illogical.

Harbinger said it himself, "Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater."

They are going to begin their process of galactic extermination at Earth, because they know that Humanity will be their strongest foe, and they want to eliminate the strongest species first so it can be easier to eliminate the lesser species.

[Darth_Ultima]

IBPROFEN wrote...

"Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of
terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As
Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind
is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final
mission to take back the earth."

Well, unles some new DLC comes out that above is wrong. Cause Shepard isn't an Alliance Marine(they didn't reinstate him in ME2). He's a Spectre. As, far as Earth is burning I only see a small portion of it on fire. I think if its an the final battle there would be more places burning.And, alot more reapers.Even reapers in orbit around Earth(bombing it).

Once a marine always a marine.  Besides are you really going to base your opinion of a 40+ hour game on a paragraph?  Advertisments only hit on basic themes of a game.  "The galaxy is in danger" (again) just doesn't seem to have the same punch to it as "Earth is Burning" to me.

[piemanz]

AwesomeName wrote...

It's entirely understandable why the Reapers would target Earth (and I like that we're visiting Earth), HOWEVER, I hope that Shepard's raison d'etre for the entire trilogy remains as "stop reapers wiping out all galactic civilisation" and doesn't change merely to "stop reapers from building another human-reaper, because obviously that's more important than the former in the grand scheme of things"

The latter sounds merely like an episode in a grander tale; the former IS the grander tale.

As one of the main powers in the galaxy earth would be a prime target regarless of the fact that the reapers can use our gentic meterial to reproduce.The fact that they can just makes earth even more of a target.But that does not mean that the other races are not targets also.I don't think we should be drawing any conclusion based on a 1 minute trailer just because it featuerd earth.

[redbaron76]

If they are not members of alliance they can not join alliance millitary.

[Gibb_Shepard]

piemanz wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

No it is not logical. So one human destroy's an unfinished reaper, all Reapers assume "HUR DUR all humans must be like Shepard!! Kill Them all!!". Assuming all humans are as capable as Shepard is very illogical.

Well it's completely logical if you actually followed the story and  realised that the reapers can use the humans to reproduce, unlike every other species.

It's never stated that other species can't be turned into reapers, so maybe you should lay back on the assumptions, and actually follow the story yourself.

[The-Person]

AwesomeName wrote...

It's entirely understandable why the Reapers would target Earth (and I like that we're visiting Earth), HOWEVER, I hope that Shepard's raison d'etre for the entire trilogy remains as "stop reapers wiping out all galactic civilisation" and doesn't change merely to "stop reapers from building another human-reaper, because obviously that's more important than the former in the grand scheme of things"

The latter sounds merely like an episode in a grander tale; the former IS the grander tale.

The only reason that Earth is buring right now is to give us a chance to visit places before they become rubble. Others will get attacked at the end of the game.

[piemanz]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

piemanz wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

No it is not logical. So one human destroy's an unfinished reaper, all Reapers assume "HUR DUR all humans must be like Shepard!! Kill Them all!!". Assuming all humans are as capable as Shepard is very illogical.

Well it's completely logical if you actually followed the story and  realised that the reapers can use the humans to reproduce, unlike every other species.

It's never stated that other species can't be turned into reapers, so maybe you should lay back on the assumptions, and actually follow the story yourself.

www.youtube.com/watch

[piemanz]

piemanz wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

piemanz wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Why earth ? Because it has billions of humans. And Shepard is a human who destroyed the human reaper, its logical isnt it?

No it is not logical. So one human destroy's an unfinished reaper, all Reapers assume "HUR DUR all humans must be like Shepard!! Kill Them all!!". Assuming all humans are as capable as Shepard is very illogical.

Well it's completely logical if you actually followed the story and  realised that the reapers can use the humans to reproduce, unlike every other species.

It's never stated that other species can't be turned into reapers, so maybe you should lay back on the assumptions, and actually follow the story yourself.

www.youtube.com/watch

It's not stated that other species can't be turned into reapers but it is suggested the humans would be their prefered option which was the whole point of the human reaper in ME2, thus making earth their prime target....

Modifié par piemanz, 15 décembre 2010 - 03:05 .

[sympathy4saren]

Earth Ultima: your entire statement reeked as if was Halo fanboy blasphemy

[sympathy4saren]

Do people not get that the Earth-centric tone is based off of the current game description?

[piemanz]

AwesomeName wrote...

piemanz wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

It's entirely understandable why the Reapers would target Earth (and I like that we're visiting Earth), HOWEVER, I hope that Shepard's raison d'etre for the entire trilogy remains as "stop reapers wiping out all galactic civilisation" and doesn't change merely to "stop reapers from building another human-reaper, because obviously that's more important than the former in the grand scheme of things"

The latter sounds merely like an episode in a grander tale; the former IS the grander tale.

As one of the main powers in the galaxy earth would be a prime target regarless of the fact that the reapers can use our gentic meterial to reproduce.The fact that they can just makes earth even more of a target.But that does not mean that the other races are not targets also.I don't think we should be drawing any conclusion based on a 1 minute trailer just because it featuerd earth.

I'm not - my opinion is based on the current game description - I've said that several times now...

It's possible that earth is their prime target, meaning it will be one of the first to get hit along with human colonys and we know from history that when they've finished with earth they will move on and destroy all sentient life in the galaxy, so while the game may be based around saving earth at that particular time it is also about defeating the reapers and stoping them before they acheive either goal.

p.s. we don't actually know if they use our genetic material to
reproduce.  Edi just said that they were using our material to create
the human-reaper, and this act of using a species' material to build a
reaper could be their equivalent to reaper reproduction, the implication
being that this is what they do every cycle with a different species -
she wasn't suggesting that our species in particular was some sort of
rosetta stone to that.

No, but the quote i linked to from harbinger earlier make it pretty clear the humans are their preffered speices to use for reproduction and i'm guessing they're not going to settle for second best.

Modifié par piemanz, 15 décembre 2010 - 03:23 .

[sympathy4saren]

Ok...let's say that they start their extermination on Earth. Wouldn't Reapers just put a solid guard force on the Charon Relay, cutting off all traffic?



Which brings up point number two...decharacterization of Reapers. Of course the Reapers would guard the Charon Relay. If I, bacteria in the eyes of a Reaper, know that is endgame, certainly a Reaper does. One Reaper crushed the entire Turian fleet and the SA...don't dare try to say we could beat them or punch through the relay to escape with sincerity.



Plothole.

[piemanz]

sympathy4saren wrote...

Ok...let's say that they start their extermination on Earth. Wouldn't Reapers just put a solid guard force on the Charon Relay, cutting off all traffic?

Which brings up point number two...decharacterization of Reapers. Of course the Reapers would guard the Charon Relay. If I, bacteria in the eyes of a Reaper, know that is endgame, certainly a Reaper does. One Reaper crushed the entire Turian fleet and the SA...don't dare try to say we could beat them or punch through the relay to escape with sincerity.

Plothole.

This is the problem with assuming things from a 1 minute trailer, how do you know they have not already done that and the current 'extermination' on earth is not infact a havesting.