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[Elite Midget]

They will be back.

As Cameo's. Stop being petty because you don't like the indeniable facts because they pull the curtian from your fantasy of having the Zombies back as Squaddies despite it being illogical. Bioware cares about money and a new Squad means a better intergrated story, easying in new fans, and knowing that old fans will buy ME3 anyway. After all, look at DA: A. Fans missed their old Party Members but they bought DA: A anyway.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 14 décembre 2010 - 04:50 .

[Elite Midget]

Never said streamlining gameplay was bad. Just that the series lost a lot of the RPG aspects to accomplish this feat.



If Bioware 'knew better' than why have they constantly done so recently? Obviously Bioware doesn't know better or just doesn't care since they already have a game plan and don't care if a small fanbase of theirs throws a tantrum.



It is for ME since Bioware couldn't even bring back 1 Killable Squaddie outside of Cameo. It wasen't that hard for them to give Wrex a reason to not return. They can easily come up with/ logical reasons why the Zombies will leave Shepard. That and why would Shepard hound those who are loyal to the cause? Why not send them out to garner support with the people so Shepard actually has a fighting chance?



Funny, you call me a fanboy yet you deny it when you're called him? Oh the irony.



No need to cuss because you can't deal with the fact that they're killable and as Bioware has recently shown killable = Cameo's or no mention at all.



None of the Squaddies in ME2 required an import. Those that did were just cameo's and subtle changes in the game that don't effect the main plot of ME2. Than there are the many random e-mails you get... You can play ME2 without ever touching ME1 and get a fulfilled experience with the same squaddie count as everyone else.



Of course Bioware wastes resources but what the vocal minority wants is a 'huge' waste for little to no gain. Bioware can appease no one that way this they'll focus on the new fans while giving old fans more cameo's and seein what the Zombies are doing outside Shepards squad.



ME2 had gameplay but it dropped the ball, quality-wise, on the main plot, squadie intregation to the main plot, plot progresesion, romantic sub-plot, and presenting the collector threat as a real threat.



There was a huge poll back that was unbiased in any way and asked fans if they wanted Quality or Quantity when it came to Squaddies. Quality overwhelming won. This shows that Bioware went Quantity route for Squadies than forgot to bring in Quality and polish.

[Alex109222]

if they don't get rid of legion, Grunt, *spoiler spoiler* Monorith *spoiler spoiler*/Samara, and thane and all the other important folks mentioned above i will buy it, the only ones I would not be upset about is the DLC characters.

[Elite Midget]

Ummm... Thane is dieing by a disease when you recruit him. If some some reason Bioware decided to show favortism to a ME2 Zombie it wouldn't be Thane since he refues all treatments and is content with dieing in a year.

[rasblak]

Elite Midget wrote...
They will be back.

As Cameo's.

Yes, You Are Right Enlightened One. Undeniable Facts.
That's what I meant, 0% chance of any of them coming back as squadmate. 
Already said so.

Stop being petty because you don't like the indeniable facts because they pull the curtian from your fantasy of having the Zombies back as Squaddies despite it being illogical.

Yes, our flatest apologies for 'being petty' in the face of Your Undeniable Enlightenizenment.

Doesn't change the so very deniable non-fact that it's not the game we would want most.
Doesn't change the so very deniable non-fact that we would feel very disappointed if BioWare were to try and sell us another reboot as a sorry-donkey excuse of half-donkey storytelling talent.

Modifié par rasblak, 14 décembre 2010 - 05:27 .

[Elite Midget]

Don't have to be enlightened to have common sense, just saying.

By 'most' you mean 'the vocal minority'.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 14 décembre 2010 - 05:40 .

[Tazzmission]

to bad you cant mix up the squad and what im thinking of is imagine have some of the me1 crew like kaidan or ashley on a squad with kasumi and zaeed. i also belive we should be allowed to choose the mako and or hammerhead when it comes to searching on a planet

[Elite Midget]

That throws out the Standalone Experiences that Bioware wants and the fact that Kasumi and Zaeed can die.

[Art3m]

You people argue that new squaddies will attract potential players. But don't you think that for new players every squaddy IS new because they've never played the series before. No need to invent abandons of new characters, just develop old ones. Well, that SniperBen could be an exception;)

[Elite Midget]

Bioware likes making new characters for new stories. As far as Bioware is concerning the ME2 Zombies had their spotlight in ME2 and thus were made killable to make way for even more new Squaddies in ME3 and their stories.

[rasblak]

Elite Midget wrote...
Don't have to be enlightened to have common sense, just saying.
By 'most' you mean 'the vocal minority'.

I am sorry for speaking Français, Enlightened One.

Common sense is understandably not enough to know that in the sentence
It is not the game we would want most
'most' is an adverb that modifies the verb 'want' , Enlightened One.

Don't have to be enlightened to have common sense, and see that the following sentence:
It is not the game we would want [the vocal minority].
does not make sense, just saying.

You are so enlightened that you even speak for BioWare:
"As far as Bioware is concerning the ME2 Zombies had their spotlight in ME2 and thus were made killable to make way for even more new Squaddies in ME3 and their stories."
Quote your sources and references please.

But you're 1000% more right than any of us here: no teammate from ME2 is coming back as squadmate for certain.

Modifié par rasblak, 14 décembre 2010 - 06:04 .

[Iakus]

While it maybe depressing to many players to hear, I concur that ME 2 squadmates may most likely end up working "behind the scenes" as NPCs to help Shepard in ME 3. Assuming they lived of course. Maybe some will be temporary squadmates, but unlikely as permanent ones



I mean, instead of Miranda joining your squad this time, I could see her overthrowing TIM and taking over Cerberus.



Zaed could assemble an army of mercs to put at Shep's disposal.



Legion could help the geth "build consensus" to help the meatbags...err...humans...



Samara could be an important voice in getting the asari into the fight, if that cop on Illium is any judge of how they respect justicars.



And so on



This is exactly the sort of stuff Wrex is doing in ME 2, as well as ::spoiler:. Whether your squadmates in ME 2 survive could be important in ME 3, but not as squadmates (most likely)

[rinoe]

rasblak wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...
They will be back.

As Cameo's.

Yes, You Are Right Enlightened One. Undeniable Facts.
That's what I meant, 0% chance of any of them coming back as squadmate. 
Already said so.

Stop being petty because you don't like the indeniable facts because they pull the curtian from your fantasy of having the Zombies back as Squaddies despite it being illogical.

Yes, our flatest apologies for 'being petty' in the face of Your Undeniable Enlightenizenment.

Doesn't change the so very deniable non-fact that it's not the game we would want most.
Doesn't change the so very deniable non-fact that we would feel very disappointed if BioWare were to try and sell us another reboot as a sorry-donkey excuse of half-donkey storytelling talent.

Fully agree with you, @rasblak.

[doodlesam123]

To be perfectly honest, even a quick cameo is doubtful. The developers dug themselves into a hole when they made it so every squadmate had a chance of dying. There is no way the developers will be able to bring every single charecter back, and make them a significant part of the game. An email is most likely, or perhaps a few cameos if we're lucky. But I highly doubt any of the squadmates from ME2 will be significant in the third game.

I assume if the developers do bring back any of the squadmates from the last game, they'll recieve the same treatment as Wrex, and Ash/Kaiden.

Modifié par doodlesam123, 14 décembre 2010 - 06:18 .

[Phaedon]

Elite Midget wrote...

They will be back.

As Cameo's. Stop being petty because you don't like the indeniable facts because they pull the curtian from your fantasy of having the Zombies back as Squaddies despite it being illogical. Bioware cares about money and a new Squad means a better intergrated story, easying in new fans, and knowing that old fans will buy ME3 anyway. After all, look at DA: A. Fans missed their old Party Members but they bought DA: A anyway.

What facts.

[rasblak]

Phaedon wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

They will be back.

As Cameo's. Stop being petty because you don't like the indeniable facts because they pull the curtian from your fantasy of having the Zombies back as Squaddies despite it being illogical. Bioware cares about money and a new Squad means a better intergrated story, easying in new fans, and knowing that old fans will buy ME3 anyway. After all, look at DA: A. Fans missed their old Party Members but they bought DA: A anyway.

What facts.

That The Enlightened One, Elite Midget, feels entitled to speak for BioWare from having thoroughly observed their production pattern?
Soon they'll come running to get her / it on their payroll.

[Elite Midget]

Fact - All ME2 Zombies can die.
Fact - Bioware has recently shown on many occassions that they prefer a new Squad in their games.
Fact - Common Sense and putting two to two together. Wrex can die and he became a short Cameo. He was 'ONE' character. Now try that with every Squaddie from ME2. They have no chance to return to Squaddie Status.
Fact - Bioware purposely left out VS and Liara from the Suicide Mission because they stated that they wanted them alive and in every save for ME3. None of the ME2 Squaddies has to be alive in every save and weren't promised the same plot protection.
Fact - Bioware dropped hints throughout ME2 on the ME2 Squaddies leaving Shepard after the Suicide Mission. Not even Garrus or Tali was immune from this and have many reasons to leave Shepard to futher the cause.

Need any more facts or are you going to ignore them an continue to live in a fanboyish induced dream only to be disapointed when ME3 hits and we get a new Squad?

Modifié par Elite Midget, 14 décembre 2010 - 06:41 .

[rinoe]

You make all your assumptions based only on one example. It is not like we have series and now we expecting the 10'th part, where all squaddies was dumped from part to part.

Yes, Wrex, was treated badly -I liked him and Garrus most in ME1, so I'm sad he don't wan't to go with me, but at least he will talk to me. What Bioware did to Ash]Kaidan wasn't nice too, and fans will give them feedback now. SO I belive they will not make the same mistake in ME3.

I don't mind 2 or 3 new squaddies, but I think it is not wise add anyone to group. Mission like SB, when someone new (this time) is add for some reason, then we could go back and talk sometimes will be much more interesting.
And I would like to experience missions when all squaddies is involved, like the final one, much more often.

Going back to DA A - yes I bought it, yes I have it, yes, I played 10 minutes and I have enough. I will never play again. It is boring ( don't be mad - it is just my opinion) I told my friends to pass when they asked me. I don't think it will go as a big success. And now - I will wait for opinion of my friends before i will buy DA2. This is what they accomplished in my case.

Modifié par rinoe, 14 décembre 2010 - 06:43 .

[rinoe]

mrsph wrote...

What makes you think Ash/Kaidan will be a squadmember in the third game, Elite Midget? They can easily reduce them to plot relevent roles without actually making them rejoin the squad. Same with Wrex.

It could happen. I hope for some missions with  'them' and much more interact.

[Elite Midget]

Not assumptions. Facts. The sooner you understand that I'm stateing facts and not my personal opinions the sooner you'll face reality. Better to prepare yourself for a new Squad now or you'll only set yourself up to be blinded by hatred/disapointment when ME3 hits and end up being unable to appreaciate the game for what it is.

Never said they they would be. However, Bioware stated why VS wasen't in ME2 and the fact that every save must have a VS means they have a 'chance'. While all of the ME2 Zombies have a 0% chance. That and the attack from the trailer was on Earth and VS is a Public Alliance Warhero greatly loyal to Earth and Humanity.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 14 décembre 2010 - 06:49 .

[hypothead]

As long as Miri, Jack, Tali, Garrus, Grunt oh and Joker are on my team i am good please kill Jacob i don't like him he goes into the ventilation shaft every time.

[Phaedon]

Fact: a statement or assertion of verified information about something that is the case or has happened; "he supported his argument with an impressive array of facts"



Variables also don't exclude any squadmembers. Think of ME2, without the ability to ever recruit Garrus. What would change ?