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[Mystranna Kelteel]

samuraix87 wrote...

i have an idea how about we wait till we get our first post suicide mission dlc to see if some squadies have left shepard or not

That DLC will still be part of ME2, and thus use the ME2 squad.

In all likelihood it would still be playable before the suicide mission, just like LotSB, which was weighted more as a post-sm DLC.

[Barquiel]

-Skorpious- wrote...

So if your favorite character doesn't come back then nobody should at all? That seems...childish to me.

If you say so.

Let's say Thane is cured and returns as a full-fledged squadmate with romance content...but Garrus has a three minute cameo role (Shep joined Eclipse to stop the reapers...he hates you now).

That would be better than good/significant cameo roles (like LOTSB) for all LIs?

[Elite Midget]

Money is your excuse? Bioware would make more money just making a new Squad intregrated into the ME3 Stor than trying to compesate every scenario for the ME2 Zombies just to appease the vocal minority that wants dead people in their Squad. As for 'why' I call them Zombies? It's because that's 'EXACTLY' what raging Fans want them to be by having them remain in the Squad in ME3 despite the fact that they all can die.



Also, Bioware has made it CLEAR that Garrus 'will' leave Shepard. Was the hins thrown throughout ME2 not enough for you? Bioware has 'big plans' for an Independent Garrus. Deal with it and be happy that Garrus is evolving past just being a gun for hire.

[Morrigans God son]

Lol? I don't care. BioWare already took away the companions in DA and said look their stories over. Might as well do the same with ME.

[Phaedon]

Elite Midget wrote...

Money is your excuse? Bioware would make more money just making a new Squad intregrated into the ME3 Stor than trying to compesate every scenario for the ME2 Zombies just to appease the vocal minority that wants dead people in their Squad. As for 'why' I call them Zombies? It's because that's 'EXACTLY' what raging Fans want them to be by having them remain in the Squad in ME3 despite the fact that they all can die.

Also, Bioware has made it CLEAR that Garrus 'will' leave Shepard. Was the hins thrown throughout ME2 not enough for you? Bioware has 'big plans' for an Independent Garrus. Deal with it and be happy that Garrus is evolving past just being a gun for hire.

Except that you can fix the zombie problem by changing a single variable...

[-Skorpious-]

Barquiel wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...

So if your favorite character doesn't come back then nobody should at all? That seems...childish to me.

If you say so.

Let's say Thane is cured and returns as a full-fledged squadmate with romance content...but Garrus has a three minute cameo role (Shep joined Eclipse to stop the reapers...he hates you now).

That would be better than good/significant cameo roles (like LOTSB) for all LIs?

If Thane had a valid reason for becoming a squadmate, then fine, more power to Thane fans. But if Garrus only received a cameo (IE a LotSB cameo) with reasonable explanations for his role as a cameo, then I honestly can't be too angry at Bioware.

Your version of Garrus' cameo is too unbelievable to be considered seriously.

[Phaedon]

Why would you join a gang that was basically financially destroyed in ME2?

[Mystranna Kelteel]

-Skorpious- wrote...
Your version of Garrus' cameo is too unbelievable to be considered seriously.

Well, that version of the cameo is the same cameo that Kaidan and Ashley got. I find it very believable.

[Elite Midget]

Bioware could have 'changed a single viarable' with Dragon Age and ME1->M2. They didn't. Face it, Bioware isn't going to change the path they have taken.

[Phaedon]

Elite Midget wrote...

Bioware could have 'changed a single viarable' with Dragon Age and ME1->M2. They didn't. Face it, Bioware isn't going to change the path they have taken.

What path ? I can keep Grunt in his tank for eternity, nothing changes. The files are there, just in case I open the tank, but I may as well continue the game without him. I don't see how that's different than a dead squadie.

[Bebbe777]

Morrigans God son wrote...

Lol? I don't care. BioWare already took away the companions in DA and said look their stories over. Might as well do the same with ME.

Why are you here if you dont even care. The DA forum is that way. Move along now. 

[Elite Midget]

Completely missed my point.



Bioware 'could' have changed things but they didn't. The fact that many of the characters can have multiple fates should have been a 'huge' indicator that they wouldn't remain the the Squad.

[-Skorpious-]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
Your version of Garrus' cameo is too unbelievable to be considered seriously.

Well, that version of the cameo is the same cameo that Kaidan and Ashley got. I find it very believable.

I meant the situation, not the length. Hopefully Bioware has enough sense to avoid a "3-min cameo" in the final game of a trilogy.

[Phaedon]

Elite Midget wrote...

Completely missed my point.

Bioware 'could' have changed things but they didn't. The fact that many of the characters can have multiple fates should have been a 'huge' indicator that they wouldn't remain the the Squad.

But DAII has a completely different plot, you are not playing as Gray Warden. It makes no sense to be able to recruit the same characters.

[Elite Midget]

ME3 has a different plot.



ME1 -> Stop Saren

ME2-> Stop the Collectors

ME3-> Stop the Reapers.



DA-> Stop the Archdemon

DA:A-> Stop the Brood Mother

DA2-> Become the Champion of Kirkwall

[Phaedon]

You are still playing as Shepard.

[Elite Midget]

You're STILL playing as the Warden in DA: A.

[Phaedon]

Not in DA2, what's your point ? Not to mention that in DA:O the squaddies had a finale to their stories. And yet, there are no facts behind this. You are just speculating.

Modifié par Phaedon, 15 décembre 2010 - 06:09 .

[Majin Paul]

I wouldn't decide to not get the game is the squad was new for ME3, I'd be unimpressed though, they'd need to have have an excellent reason for getting rid of the squad.

And while I enjoyed gathering squadmates in ME2, I'm hoping the ME3 story is completely focused on fighting the Reapers and not gathering new squad members.

[mopotter]

What would be really nice is if they survived in ME2 you had the option to have them join you or not, and if they died there would be a blank space like they did with the one left behind on V in ME1. This would seem to be a good option and possible. I can see where some of the ME2 squad might not continue working with you in ME3, Thane, Mordin, (age and health) Zaeed and Kasumi (mercs so you might have to pay them) but the others I think would stay with Shepard and help.



I would really enjoy having the number of squad members depend on how ME2 was played. Definitely VS and Liara plus whoever survived in ME2 whether it was all of them or only a few. I would not care if the ones who died were replaced, or if you had to finish the game with this group, whoever they might be.



But if they moved the survivors to non squad members who make an appearances - like wrex - I'd be ok with it, though if it were a LI I'd like the option to continue that relationship somehow, even it was visiting them on the way from one mission to the next.



So answer is no I won't be totally mad if the ME2 group can not participate in the ME3 missions. Would be a bit disappointed but not mad.



Mad would be reserved for no VS or Liara in my ME3 squad since the whole reason they were not in ME2 was so they would not die in the suicide mission.

[n2nw]

Morrigans God son wrote...

Lol? I don't care. BioWare already took away the companions in DA and said look their stories over. Might as well do the same with ME.

DA is not a trilogy (or even a series).  ME is.

Elite Midget wrote...
You're STILL playing as the Warden in DA: A.

Because Awakenings was an expansion of DA.  DA2 is not the sequel to DA. They've been very clear about that.

[Barquiel]

Phaedon wrote...


What path ? I can keep Grunt in his tank for eternity, nothing changes. The files are there, just in case I open the tank, but I may as well continue the game without him. I don't see how that's different than a dead squadie.

It's not the same.

BW has created new companions in DA: Awakening because some DA:O characters could be dead/not available. But some of the new Awakening characters were still optional and some people never recruit them...but that's a choice they made in Awakening, not in DA:O.

[schneeland]

Elite Midget wrote...

Money is your excuse? Bioware would make more money just making a new Squad intregrated into the ME3 Stor than trying to compesate every scenario for the ME2 Zombies just to appease the vocal minority that wants dead people in their Squad. As for 'why' I call them Zombies? It's because that's 'EXACTLY' what raging Fans want them to be by having them remain in the Squad in ME3 despite the fact that they all can die.

Also, Bioware has made it CLEAR that Garrus 'will' leave Shepard. Was the hins thrown throughout ME2 not enough for you? Bioware has 'big plans' for an Independent Garrus. Deal with it and be happy that Garrus is evolving past just being a gun for hire.

If you mind reading your texts again, you may notice that your outright aggresive attitude works to the detriment of your arguments. There are actually people who care for a certain politeness, even on the internet.

So, all the best, Sir. I will leave this stage for a while.

[lovgreno]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
Your version of Garrus' cameo is too unbelievable to be considered seriously.

Well, that version of the cameo is the same cameo that Kaidan and Ashley got. I find it very believable.

I meant the situation, not the length. Hopefully Bioware has enough sense to avoid a "3-min cameo" in the final game of a trilogy.

BioWare have everything to win by trying to make ME3 better than ME2 when it comes to old squadmates (and everything else in the game of course). Just because they did something in one way in ME2 doesn't mean they should not try to improve and develop it in ME3.

Competition is hard in the game buisness. If you don't do better than you did last time your investors will go to your rival with their money.

However I am sure BioWare are definitely skilled enough to make a great game if they are allowed enough time to work on ME3.

Modifié par lovgreno, 15 décembre 2010 - 06:56 .

[Elite Midget]

Phaedon wrote...

Not in DA2, what's your point ? Not to mention that in DA:O the squaddies had a finale to their stories. And yet, there are no facts behind this. You are just speculating.

The ME2 Zombies had a finale at the end of ME2 too.

You say speculating but in fact it means you have no way to counter the facts that I have presented infront of you bestowed upon us all by Bioware. It's a history and it should be fact enough that what you want wont happen because it isn't what Bioware has planned.

DA-> A was an Expansion jump and Bioware couldn't even work it in to have your old party back. Now we know that everyone 'can' die in ME2 and that ME3 takes place much later. The chances of any of the Zombies returning from the grave as a Squaddie? 0%.

And that's a fact back by facts presented by Bioware and called out by me.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 15 décembre 2010 - 07:15 .