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[Manic Sheep]

If all the squad mates in ME2 vanish or just show up as crappy cameos I will be pissed.

If the VM only gets a small cameo I will also be pissed.

If most of the squadmates in ME2 show up and have significant roles and impact but are no longer with you and you have to recruit a new squad I will be disappointed but not foaming at the mouth.

I don’t expect all the squadmates from both games back on the Normandy nor do I want them all back. Not cause I don’t like them, just because I think some of them better off doing their own thing and we dont need that many squadmates. They could be working WITH shep not working FOR shep as they would as a squadmate.
Especially Wrex and Liara. Wrex is uniting the krogan. Liara is the SB. The VM is probably going to be in charge of their own **** in the alliance rather than working under you (I could be wrong of course but It’s just a feeling I have.)
Garrus has been with us for two games so far but his LotSB dossier makes me think he could potentially be in charge of his own **** too.
Most the squadmates from ME2 don't realy have any where else they need to be tho and I doubt yout going to be running around recruiting a new squad in ME3. Thought that was the point of ME2, this time things should kick off at the start.

But truthfully I will likely still buy the game even if it turns out to be bad.(Not saying I think it will, it’s FAR too early for doom and gloom.) because I don’t like leaving stories half finished even if the ending is ****ty. Sad I know, if I had stopped at the first game it would have been ok but now that I’ve played the 2nd one I have to finish the story Goddam it!

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 13 décembre 2010 - 05:10 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

I want everyone to come back. Not just Ashley/Kaidan, Jacob and Miranda, or Garrus and Tali, but EVERYONE. And no, not necessarily as fully-fledged squadmates, but anything more than a silly two-minute cameo would do.

[Stick668]

Put it like this. If I'm not mistaken, the only squadmate with a 0% death chance after both games?

Liara. Last seen throwing metaphorical Singularities at entire socioeconomical systems.

Either Ash or Kaidan will be alive, too. Everyone else stands a chance of being dead, never recruited or undergoing rude reverse-engineering in Cerberus Facility #498: Yet Another Bad Idea.

I'll be happy with cameos from most of them. I'll be positively giddy if the cameos follow LotSB format.

"We need McGuffin #8. It's here on Omega. Oh, hey Jack. Running your own crew, I see. Nice. Want to help me rob Aria? There's a decent chance of wrecking the entire station."

"Good to see you, Miranda. Another Lazarus Project? I thought I was special. Anyway, we kind of need McGuffin #12 here. What do you mean the entire project has gone pear-shaped? What kind of slipshod operation are you hellhounds running? Oh well. I'm gonna go punch the problem. Come on."

"Look, Garrus, I came here to kick bubblegum and... nevermind. You got a new team and killed all the bad guys before I got here? That's just rude. Oh, Tali's with you? Are you two...? Well, congratulations on managing to date within your chirality."

"Jacob, what's the matter? You're being haunted by the ghost of your father? Again? Hang on, are you absolutely sure it's not just a japanese girl with a cloaking device? Was there ectoplasm or just haikus?"

... I should probably stop before there's full-blown fanfic. Yes.

Modifié par Stick668, 13 décembre 2010 - 05:09 .

[Terraneaux]

javierabegazo wrote...

Hypotheticals aside, it's unrealistic to assume that everyone from ME2 will be a squaddies in ME3. Sure some of them certainly will, but the story of Mass Effect has always been about shepard, not Shepard and Co.

Mass Effect 2 was almost entirely about the "and Co." part of that statement.  Shepard had little or no character development, and each NPC had their own special little story to tell.  

[Ahglock]

I didn't like the vast majority of ME2 characters so new ones would be welcome.

[AdmiralCheez]

Ahglock wrote...

I didn't like the vast majority of ME2 characters so new ones would be welcome.

Get out.

Nah, jk, to each their own.

[GodWood]

All I need is my LI (Jack) and at least one of my other faves (Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Thane, Legion, Zaeed)

[MC P Pants]

I really want to know how this is going to work. I have lots of save files with different outcomes from ME2. I have one with everyone alive, and i obviously hope that i can continue to have my crew. Garrus is a must. But, then i also have a save file where only 3 people (including Shepard) left the collector base alive, meaning i have 2 squadmates! Surely Bioware is going to have to accomodate all these variables, which you gotta wonder how that can work to please everyone. The game where i have 2 squadmates obviously needs the option to recruit more! Which is cool as that will breathe some new life into it, but on my playthrough where everyone lives - i wouldnt want anymore, as 12 or 10 is heaps anyway.

If i was to speculate on how they handle this my guess is early on you have a compulsory mission where you need to send some of your crew out on there own, and they probably die. That way it keeps the amount of squadies you can have in check. I dunno.. this game is gonna have to have serious amount of content to pull this off. On the other hand they may just start you off with a few, and the illusive man will send you emails about why the rest left you. Cant wait for this though. that trailer has me excited!

[Elyvern]

No, I definitely don't want new squad. If that's the approach Bioware's going to take, I'm going to be extremely grudging every step of the way picking up these new people. I want my tried and true squad from ME1 and 2 back! I can accept that some may not come back, that we may need new expertise in the team, but a total ditch-and-revamp will drive me up against the wall to the point where I will not get ME3.

[RetrOldSchool]

In ME2 we had Garrus & Tali as squadmates and I guess something like that'll be in ME3 too, we'll get hopefully get a couple of old squadmates and the rest new.



As for these old squadmates, Liara and Ashley/Kaidan are really the only ones that would be alive in every gamers saves,

[Tron Evolution]

logically, Miranda, Jacob will be with Shepard. it's inevitable since he destroyed collector base. they agreed with doing it. Garrus, Tali must follow him since ME 1. Legion has no choice to leave. he had been followed Shepard's body ever since. so he will be. plus, he got very impressed after blowing collector base. Samara will leave (then come back for help) soon (she just said she will be returned someday to help him). Liara will stay with Shepard even though she is not a squad mate. Mordin will follow him but it will be depending on situation. Grunt have no choice. Shepard is battle master. whenever he goes, grunt will follow. Kasumi, Zaeed, Thane, Jack... I am not sure about them. Thane will die soon. Jack is crazy ****. kasumi, zaeed will leave no reason. they did what Shepard wanted in ME 2.



now, 7 squad mates will remain. good.

[Aglazzboi]

I want everybody lol. But seriously this is the fight against the reapers. Who else probably besides liara or whos dead in your playthrough doing that is more important than the end of civilization? Tali and legion could probably leverage the geth and quarians, wrex and grunt with the krogans, you might have the rachni, Samara is a asari justicar=asari commandos could be useful. Bioware has alot of options but ill take some new squad members no doubt. But i dont want wrex sittin to tuchanka.

[MC P Pants]

Ive had a bit of a think about who would or wouldnt return for various reasons and what im about to tell you is completely true, based on stuff that i just made up

Theres a good chance Thane wont be part of the fun I suppose Samara with all her justice to be done would have a good excuse to split at any stage, as would Jack, personality-wise. Jacob seems the type that would have nothing better to do than stay (sadly). Zaeed seems to only be in it for the cash, likewise Kasumi for the challenge aspect, so i can see them not being around. Garrus is so f***ing cool i dont care what he does, he will be cool doing it. Tali seems to have no place left but by Shepards side. Mordin i can see as being all sciency, and perhaps not selectable as a squadie - more as a guy working on sciency stuff on the normandy. Grunt would stay, as he calls you battlemaster - and seems a bit like a pet. Miranda is hard to place, but she was pretty integral to ME2, so for that i think she will stay. Finally Legion, who is fixated on Shepard, so he would stay. Well extra finally i gues theres Morinth, but she wouldnt stay as shes all murdery and killery.

All i honestly care about is Garrus. He is so damn cool hes the new Shepard

[TheNexus]

Here's what's going to happen.



Shepard will devise a plan to get aid from the Citadel (they can't dismiss what happened in the trailer...ok they can dismiss anything, but let's assume they don't) and build a fleet to take back Earth. It will fail, and SR2 will be destroyed (dejavurite?), everyone will escape pod like in ME2 and be scattered around wherever you drop, prob different areas of London. You'll be unconscious in your pod, and the guy from the trailer will come and rescue you. You'll have him as a squadie. Your job will be to go to different parts of the city, get your team back and find a way off Earth. Earth will be destroyed (some members will die...probably based on your decisions, but I actually think some members will just die outright). You'll escape off of Earth somehow and it will be destroyed (I know...tear). All this time, you'll find out that TIM will have convinced the Council to build a weapon, but that it will require prothean tech + tech from other destroyed civilizations. The dialogue from TIM (who will brief you) will go something like this:



"Apparently the Protheans knew what was coming and were building something. They just didn't have time to make it. In the same way that Ilos was protected, it will be your job to go to different secret Prothean colonies all over the galaxy to recover the scattered items of this weapon. There is no guarantee this weapon will even work, or that these blueprints aren't a trap set by the Reapers. But we don't have the luxury of time to think about it."



This will be a big portion of the game, going to different planets and (obviously) having to dodge the Reapers as best you can (there's no way to kill them at this point in the game). You'll develop relationships and get a few new squadies, although you will retain the majority of your old ones.



Once you develop the weapon, TIM will direct you to a planet with significantly less Reaper occupation than others. This is where you end up testing it, and finding out that it weakens their shields.



This is the part where everyone will get mad at me: After a big fight where we put this weapon on every ship we can, we lose to the Reapers. They are just too powerful. However, once they realize that they have defeated us, they notice that they have lost many Reapers themselves. The Reapers, talking as one (ala geth) tell Shepard (who is very battered at this point) that he will be annihilated. After a long conversation, in which he shows no sign of giving up, the Reapers say this:



"We are impressed by your tenacity, Shepard. Know that we are not murderers, but harbingers of perfection. We take the best of every civilization created, at the peak of their galactic dominance, and assimilate them. Through this ritual, we are able to gain unparalleled power. It is who we are. Humanity was never more or less worthy of assimilation than any other civilization we have encountered... but you. You are a gem in the rough. A character more bold than infinite characters before you, more cunning than can be measured, more daring than can be quantified. Join us, our minds, our bodies, and we shall be more powerful than the gods you and thousands of generations of civilizations before you have prayed to. Do this, and your civilizations shall be spared. To thrive once again and build societies from which their future generations can look at in awe and peace. This is our covenant."



For the first time in the game, the renegade option will save humanity, the paragon won't. Both at the cost of Shepard's life.

[TheNexus]

PS I was going to think of a scenario where Shepard could live, but I haven't thought of it at the moment. If I think of something I'll post it.

[Bourne Endeavor]

I will reiterate a post I had made earlier discussing this precise topic.

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

While I may be a vocal advocate for returning squad mates. Realistically, it is not likely to happen. Fortunately, in both our cases. Our particular favorite happens to have attracted arguably the largest fanbase in the series. So if there are even two returning characters, Garrus will be among them. Tali, of course, would be the second.

In any event, I could accept a cameo of even Garrus, if, and only if, he was given the LotSB treatment. I once mentioned an indoctrination angle wherein we have to eventually oppose our beloved friend. For non-import players, this could merely be a generic scene that has a group of formingly innocent people, opposing Shepard. For only those importing is the truly unique and personal possession of Garrus ever explored.

And no, I will not accept a stand in, akin to Wreav. Terror and I discussed this, and I agree, it does an injustice to the character.

In any event, it will be determined primarily upon how fixated Bioware is on selling Mass Effect 3 as a standalone game. If they are committed to this objective, it is a strong probability we shall see no one return because those new to the series will have no relation to them. Either way, I am almost certain none will have plot relevance unless Bioware is willing to commit immense technical variables to accommodate alternatives to replace a potentially dead character.

There is a silver lining to the doom and gloom. If the storyline returns to focus upon the Reapers and Shepard, and Bioware is bold enough. It is easily possible for everyone to return with those dead, simply not present. This would mean either new characters replace them or our squad inflates. Furthermore, it would prevent any direct plot importance. How would this impact non import files? Everyone lives, happy file.

Unfortunately, the silver lining is wishful thinking. If I am to be a realist, Garrus, Tali and Miranda are the only even remote front runners with the DLC and Samara almost guaranteed to be out. Why Samara? She can die twice.

How would I response? If my quoted scenario took place. I would be content. If Garrus was treated to a Wrex-esque cameo. My interest in this series drops significantly and be entirely reliant upon a vastly superior story than what was offered in Mass Effect 2. Frankly, I would be a hard sell for Bioware.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 13 décembre 2010 - 08:59 .

[Terror_K]

The thing is, ME2 was a story that was about squaddies primarily... even more than the main plot of The Collectors and their connection to The Reapers. ME3 isn't the same and seems to have a more focussed plot related to The Reapers (as it should), which could mean that overall squaddies could take far more of a backseat in ME3.



Now, if this is the case, this could be both a curse and a blessing. The curse is that there could likely be far less squaddie interaction and focus than before. The blessing could be that due to this fact, more attention could be given to squaddies and there could be a greater chance of seeing old faces since they (probably) simply aren't as crucial to the main plot. this time around. Simply put: if all the main quests are related to The Reapers and stopping them rather than being recruitment quests and there are no loyalty missions to deal with, squaddies aren't so much of a priority and a hindrance on the main story.



So if this is the case, then the question would be: would you prefer more squaddie focus and interaction with the risk that 90% of the cast are new, or would you prefer squaddie focus and interaction to take a hit if it meant a greater range of cast choices and seeing familiar faces albeit with less content for them? It's basically either fully-fleshed newbies or a whole lotta old faces in cameos.

[lazuli]

Terror_K wrote...

The thing is, ME2 was a story that was about squaddies primarily... even more than the main plot of The Collectors and their connection to The Reapers. ME3 isn't the same and seems to have a more focussed plot related to The Reapers (as it should), which could mean that overall squaddies could take far more of a backseat in ME3.

If we see a healthy amount of squadmates return, perhaps the burning question of the boards ("What was the point of ME2?") will be answered for those less than satisfied with the Collector story arc.

I think you're right in saying that loyalty missions are unlikely to return.  It will be interesting to see how Bioware addresses squadmate bonus powers with that in mind.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Echoing what a lot of other fans have said, I'd really prefer not spending another whole game recruiting a squad when I have a perfectly good one right here. We've gotten to know them and love/hate them, and there's still a lot we don't know about them. As easy as it is to give reasons why everyone won't return, it's just as simple to show why they have to stay with Shepard. Maybe it's harsh, but I feel like if you lost someone in the suicide mission, you miss out on content. Plain and simple.

[Nozybidaj]

BW didn't care one bit if folks wanted teammates to return or not in ME2. I'd wager they don't care if you want teammates to return in ME3 either. If you don't buy the game you are what BW called "an acceptable loss".

[Raniall]

So long as I get Tali and Garrus back, hell you could push the rest of them out of an airlock.

[Destroy Raiden_]

I would be mad if they killed off, put to cameos, or somehow made mia some of my squadmates specifically I want Garrus, Tali, Joker, and Chakwas back for 3 T & G as physical squadmates till the end.

[AlexXIV]

I only need Wrex, Garrus, Tali and Liara. If I had them I probably wouldn't use any other teammates. But as it is we will probably get a bunch of new recruits *sigh*

[Annihilator27]

AlexXIV wrote...

I only need Wrex, Garrus, Tali and Liara. If I had them I probably wouldn't use any other teammates. But as it is we will probably get a bunch of new recruits *sigh*

Same, But I want Legion and Grunt back to lol. You would think we wouldnt have time to recruit. Just use of a mix of ME1 and 2 and lets kick some Reaper ass.