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[Destroy Raiden_]

TheNexus wrote...

Here's what's going to happen.

Shepard will devise a plan to get aid from the Citadel (they can't dismiss what happened in the trailer...ok they can dismiss anything, but let's assume they don't) and build a fleet to take back Earth. It will fail, and SR2 will be destroyed (dejavurite?), everyone will escape pod like in ME2 and be scattered around wherever you drop, prob different areas of London. You'll be unconscious in your pod, and the guy from the trailer will come and rescue you. You'll have him as a squadie. Your job will be to go to different parts of the city, get your team back and find a way off Earth. Earth will be destroyed (some members will die...probably based on your decisions, but I actually think some members will just die outright). You'll escape off of Earth somehow and it will be destroyed (I know...tear). All this time, you'll find out that TIM will have convinced the Council to build a weapon, but that it will require prothean tech + tech from other destroyed civilizations. The dialogue from TIM (who will brief you) will go something like this:

"Apparently the Protheans knew what was coming and were building something. They just didn't have time to make it. In the same way that Ilos was protected, it will be your job to go to different secret Prothean colonies all over the galaxy to recover the scattered items of this weapon. There is no guarantee this weapon will even work, or that these blueprints aren't a trap set by the Reapers. But we don't have the luxury of time to think about it."

This will be a big portion of the game, going to different planets and (obviously) having to dodge the Reapers as best you can (there's no way to kill them at this point in the game). You'll develop relationships and get a few new squadies, although you will retain the majority of your old ones.

Once you develop the weapon, TIM will direct you to a planet with significantly less Reaper occupation than others. This is where you end up testing it, and finding out that it weakens their shields.

This is the part where everyone will get mad at me: After a big fight where we put this weapon on every ship we can, we lose to the Reapers. They are just too powerful. However, once they realize that they have defeated us, they notice that they have lost many Reapers themselves. The Reapers, talking as one (ala geth) tell Shepard (who is very battered at this point) that he will be annihilated. After a long conversation, in which he shows no sign of giving up, the Reapers say this:

"We are impressed by your tenacity, Shepard. Know that we are not murderers, but harbingers of perfection. We take the best of every civilization created, at the peak of their galactic dominance, and assimilate them. Through this ritual, we are able to gain unparalleled power. It is who we are. Humanity was never more or less worthy of assimilation than any other civilization we have encountered... but you. You are a gem in the rough. A character more bold than infinite characters before you, more cunning than can be measured, more daring than can be quantified. Join us, our minds, our bodies, and we shall be more powerful than the gods you and thousands of generations of civilizations before you have prayed to. Do this, and your civilizations shall be spared. To thrive once again and build societies from which their future generations can look at in awe and peace. This is our covenant."

For the first time in the game, the renegade option will save humanity, the paragon won't. Both at the cost of Shepard's life.

Though I am cringing at your reversal of para kills all I like the theory and even the harsh reality of the situation para would kill all.

[DaewaNya]

I'd be mad for sure if it will be completly erased, meaning we won't see a glimpse of them at all. It's the conclusion of Shepard's story, you have see them again. Just like Metal Gear Solid 4, you have to bring the nostalgia or else it will feel empty to most fans.

[schneeland]

Well, of course, it would be wonderful to see all our squadmates, including those of ME 1, back in the team and spending time in the new Normandy's bar, the canteen or just moving around. However, I see practical limitations, because even more than returning squadmates, I would like to see thorough character development and more non-romantic character interaction.



And being honest: I would be quite happy with a team of only a few characters from ME 1 and ME 2 as team mates, namely:

- Garrus, the only character I find 100%-trustable

- Wrex, THE Krogan

- Mordin, the incredible singing Salarian

- Zaeed, who is so outright badass that even I (the mostly-paragon Shepard) could not help liking him



Also, it would be wonderful to have a few of the crew members on board again:

- Joker

- The engineers

- And, of course, my special "I love the sight of humans on their knews"-AI-friend



For other characters, I really like, it is more difficult:

- Kaidan/VS: I would also be happy to see Kaidan in a LotSB-style manner. If anything, he owes me an excuse for all the mistrust on Horizon. But as he advanced in ranks, I see him rather following his own agenda - a good and trustworthy friend in the Alliance.

- Tali: Yes, I do like her a lot more since ME2, but she is still very focused around her people (and also she is a crappy fighter )

- Liara: Well, she will be busy organising the SBs network. However, I hope for regular communications and possible face to face meetings. Also, I am looking forward to the marriage and little blue children thing

- Thane: I would love to talk with him more about the Drell, their Pagan gods and their myth. Yet, I fear, his death will come closer and he may not be in for another round of snipe-the-Collector.



And then there's the rest:

- Samara & Legion, which I found kind of nice, but somehow had little use for them and also found them a bit shallow

- Grunt: copy cat Krogan. Kind of nice, but still not at Wrex' level

- Jacob: Poor boy with a crappy loyalty mission. Also not very useful in combat.

- Jack: Bad girl's are not my cup of tea. At least not that kind of bad girls ...

- Kasumi: Liked the DLC-mission, not so impressed with the character though.

- Miranda: Just cannot manage to like her, at all.



All in all: I hope, we don't just end up with a lot of characters doing only calibrations.

[jlim]

OF COURSE I wouldn't mind, as long as they are as charismatic as the old ones and that there are included some hawt alien ladies as usual. I'd miss the priiize tho... oh wait, I just got him head-shot

And I demand a Salarian, either Mordin or a new one. Salarians are the shiz.

Modifié par jlim, 13 décembre 2010 - 10:04 .

[mcneil_1]

What after all that effort in ME2 to get the teammates, do the loyalty missions, buy the additional outfits (well one released pack so far) I hope not.

[Ahglock]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

I didn't like the vast majority of ME2 characters so new ones would be welcome.

Get out.

Nah, jk, to each their own.

I honestly don't see what people like about the ME 2 characters.

Jack: Whiny emo phsychopath.
Jacob : Just boring.
Miranda:  Just eye candy, nothing about her is interesting.
Grunt:  A lame wrex.
Legion: Bad borg spinoff.  Why anoyne likes him baffles me.
Morinth if you chose her.  Deranged hedonistic psychopath. 

Samara:  She had some depth and was somewhat interesting
Mordin:  Was maybe the best bioware character yet.
Tali/Garus I like both of them, but I'm not as fascinated with them as others.
Zaeed:  I actually liked him, though I felt his loyalty quest had bad diologue options on the players part.
Kasumi:  Not bad. 

[AdmiralCheez]

@Ahglock: See? You liked Samara, Mordin, Tali, Garrus, Zaeed, and Kasumi. That's half the squad, not the "vast majority."

As for why people like Legion: eyebrows.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 13 décembre 2010 - 09:14 .

[Tasker]

All of the ME2 team mates can be killed off in the suicide mission, so i'm half expecting that in ME3 we'll only see them in an ME2 Wrex style situation.



The only ones we'll probably see any meaningfull contact with are the rest of the characters from ME1, as they couldn't die in ME2.





I should point out though, that I really hope that i'm wrong, but Bioware would have to put in a lot of effort for characters that might not have made it through. Unless they go the everyone survived route for the default non import Shepard.

[Ghost-621]

Just give me Garrus and Tali. Those are the only two I really care about.

[Ghost-621]

Orkboy wrote...

I should point out though, that I really hope that i'm wrong, but Bioware would have to put in a lot of effort for characters that might not have made it through. Unless they go the everyone survived route for the default non import Shepard.

Then they shouldn't have made the effort of putting all of those variables in ME2 in the first place. They need to finish what they started the right way, not the half-baked way. I understand why Wrex couldn't come, or why Ash, Kaidan, or Liara couldn't, they all had legitimate excuses. However, I don't see them justifying the loss of the entire ME2 squad, maybe Samara and Thane due to personal convictions, but not Garrus or Tali, or even Grunt! Garrus, in my opinion, is almost like a younger brother to Shepard, and Tali has been in love with him from the start. As for Grunt, Shepard is his battlemaster, he has no match. 'Nuff said.

Bioware knows what their fans expect of them, and they should feel honored, not burdened or offended.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 13 décembre 2010 - 09:30 .

[Doodly_Coopens]

There's kind of a problem with the thinking that since your teammates can die in the second one, that they would all be reduced to cameos in the second. I mean, Shepard could die in the second one. And he/she is still the main character.



So, maybe like how people who had dead Shepard's in the second one wont be able to carry over into the third, people who had certain squadmates die won't be able to do the third?

[Raith Mano]

Honestly, I'm hoping to see them all make a comeback. I really enjoyed all the characters and they all showed extreme devotion to Shepard and they realize how real and close the threat is, so why wouldn't they be there? I just hope that they make Kasumi and Zaeed actually fully integrated characters with full dialog options, etc.



To be honest, I don't think we'll see many from ME1 make a comeback, as I think Wrex will be leading the krogran, Ashley/Kadien will probably be leading their own squads, Liara will definitely be giving us intel from the Shadowbroker base (and this may also couple as a base of operations for Shepard and his team... every ship needs a port), so yeah, I think we'll continue to have all our old squadmates and I think we'll see a few new ones.

[Sidac]

No, I killed my team on the station and made it look like the collectors killed them.

[Bio Addict]

I'm torn on the issue. On the one hand I really liked most all of the characters introduced in ME1/ME2, but on the other hand I know any new characters Bioware created would likely be just as interesting. I get that all of them being able to die in 2 makes it complicated but the question now in my mind is "exactly how complicated?" and really wasn't flying around the galaxy recruiting individuals for your personal squad the point of ME2? It leaves you with a lot to think about.



When those first couple of screen shots for ME3 start popping up squad make up is the first thing I"ll be looking at.

[Chosen Predator]

Orkboy wrote...

All of the ME2 team mates can be killed off in the suicide mission, so i'm half expecting that in ME3 we'll only see them in an ME2 Wrex style situation.

The only ones we'll probably see any meaningfull contact with are the rest of the characters from ME1, as they couldn't die in ME2.


I should point out though, that I really hope that i'm wrong, but Bioware would have to put in a lot of effort for characters that might not have made it through. Unless they go the everyone survived route for the default non import Shepard.

oh yeah forgot about that - I am expecting a new cast of characters as well as the old ones - this is the last version of ME3 the writers have more freedom to expand on these guys as much as they want don't half ass it

[Remus Artega]

so they made us build up relationships and actual feeling towards those chars... fleshed them out for the sole purpose of throwing it all out of the window? I highly doubt that...

[UgnokOfOtherThings]

If you think about it, when theres a reaper invasion on Earth, why would they just leave?

[Terror_K]

UgnokOfOtherThings wrote...

If you think about it, when theres a reaper invasion on Earth, why would they just leave?

Well, to be honest, we don't know when this takes place after ME2. It's probably a good half a year at least, because Retribution takes place after ME2 by at least that amount but would also have to be before the invasion. This is --of course-- assuming that the Reaper attack starts fairly early into the game. In that case, we'd probably see most of the crew on their merry way. Samara, Jack, Zaeed, Kasumi and Thane would probably all go on their way after the suicide mission (possible exceptions regarding Jack and Thane if you romanced them. Thane could even simply be dead). The rest could stay, but may just as easily leave for various reasons.

[JoltDealer]

I expect we'll likely only have one or two squadmates from Mass Effect 2 and a few more from Mass Effect 1. I do expect to see new squadmates for Mass Effect 3, but we must all remember that most of the squadmates from the last game all had an equal chance of dying in the end. It's very difficult to write major roles for characters who may be dead in some playthroughs.

[Terror_K]

I'm actually guessing Kaidan or Ashley will return fairly quickly, perhaps even right at the start. Whichever one you didn't sacrifice on Virmire is a guaranteed survivor after all.



This is assuming it's really them and not some Collector clone of course.

[A Killing Sound]

Honestly, as much as people want to keep their old team, I'd like to see new faces. Perhaps a happy medium could be this: If you saved your team in part 2, you can keep the option of using them. If not, or if you chose, you can get a new member who uses similar skills to those that die (so say if Jack died, you can recruit another biotic). I know that sounds like a lot of work, but it's the only way to keep everyone happy.

[OSUfan12121]

Id rather have some continuity in the team. If they have the option to use the ME2 squad id be perfectly happy as long as the ME1 squad gets some recognition and maybe some new ones if you had people die in the suicide mission.

[alickar]

javierabegazo wrote...

Hypotheticals aside, it's unrealistic to assume that everyone from ME2 will be a squaddies in ME3. Sure some of them certainly will, but the story of Mass Effect has always been about shepard, not Shepard and Co.

but since this is the last of the mass effect series they should be able to put in all ur squaddies plus dlc also it would take less time then from building a new person from scratch

[Pwner1323]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

TheNexus wrote...

Here's what's going to happen.

Shepard will devise a plan to get aid from the Citadel (they can't dismiss what happened in the trailer...ok they can dismiss anything, but let's assume they don't) and build a fleet to take back Earth. It will fail, and SR2 will be destroyed (dejavurite?), everyone will escape pod like in ME2 and be scattered around wherever you drop, prob different areas of London. You'll be unconscious in your pod, and the guy from the trailer will come and rescue you. You'll have him as a squadie. Your job will be to go to different parts of the city, get your team back and find a way off Earth. Earth will be destroyed (some members will die...probably based on your decisions, but I actually think some members will just die outright). You'll escape off of Earth somehow and it will be destroyed (I know...tear). All this time, you'll find out that TIM will have convinced the Council to build a weapon, but that it will require prothean tech + tech from other destroyed civilizations. The dialogue from TIM (who will brief you) will go something like this:

"Apparently the Protheans knew what was coming and were building something. They just didn't have time to make it. In the same way that Ilos was protected, it will be your job to go to different secret Prothean colonies all over the galaxy to recover the scattered items of this weapon. There is no guarantee this weapon will even work, or that these blueprints aren't a trap set by the Reapers. But we don't have the luxury of time to think about it."

This will be a big portion of the game, going to different planets and (obviously) having to dodge the Reapers as best you can (there's no way to kill them at this point in the game). You'll develop relationships and get a few new squadies, although you will retain the majority of your old ones.

Once you develop the weapon, TIM will direct you to a planet with significantly less Reaper occupation than others. This is where you end up testing it, and finding out that it weakens their shields.

This is the part where everyone will get mad at me: After a big fight where we put this weapon on every ship we can, we lose to the Reapers. They are just too powerful. However, once they realize that they have defeated us, they notice that they have lost many Reapers themselves. The Reapers, talking as one (ala geth) tell Shepard (who is very battered at this point) that he will be annihilated. After a long conversation, in which he shows no sign of giving up, the Reapers say this:

"We are impressed by your tenacity, Shepard. Know that we are not murderers, but harbingers of perfection. We take the best of every civilization created, at the peak of their galactic dominance, and assimilate them. Through this ritual, we are able to gain unparalleled power. It is who we are. Humanity was never more or less worthy of assimilation than any other civilization we have encountered... but you. You are a gem in the rough. A character more bold than infinite characters before you, more cunning than can be measured, more daring than can be quantified. Join us, our minds, our bodies, and we shall be more powerful than the gods you and thousands of generations of civilizations before you have prayed to. Do this, and your civilizations shall be spared. To thrive once again and build societies from which their future generations can look at in awe and peace. This is our covenant."

For the first time in the game, the renegade option will save humanity, the paragon won't. Both at the cost of Shepard's life.

Though I am cringing at your reversal of para kills all I like the theory and even the harsh reality of the situation para would kill all.

That was beautiful. If this were the ending, I wouldn't complain.

Modifié par Pwner1323, 14 décembre 2010 - 12:40 .