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[Anticitizen1]

Or is there a possibility of Drew Karpyshyn will be the lead writer?
Any information on this?
I'm worried about ME3....

Modifié par Anticitizen1, 13 décembre 2010 - 12:18 .

[Alphyn]

We don't know.

[maxut85]

why would Mac Walters be the writer ? I would imagine they would keep it written in part by drew karpyshyn like with mass effect 2. He's a much better writer imo.

[The Smoking Man]

Drew is working on SW:TOR right now, so I think he's not available to do writing for ME3.

[SOG TOUGH]

The main story was written years ago for the entire trilogy, but the actual game-script can have various writers.

[Anticitizen1]

Mac Walters is credited as the lead writer of ME2...

and I refuse to believe Drew wrote that lame story.

[Chuvvy]

OH **** YEAH MORE LINEBACKER SIZED PLOTHOLES!

[shinobi602]

Worried about what?

[Anticitizen1]

.........the story.

[Silentmode]

Writing should be rapping up at this point for TOR and from what I gather he was only writing the Jedi Knight's story so he could of been working with Walters on ME3 as well. Not that I have a problem with Mac I think he does good work.

[Vengeful Nature]

A concern for me too. Mac Walters, with respect, seems to have difficulty tying a plot together.

[kidbd15]

Don't worry about it... it's not like you worrying about is going to make BW say, "OMG Anticitizen1 is worried that Mac is the writer! Let's bend to his needs and get a different writer, even though the script for the game is written and everything storywise is already set and right now we're just working on creating the game around the set story... let's delay the game for another year to work all this out!"



Bottom line... don't worry, because it's done... no point in worrying about something that's already pretty much established. It could have been Mac, or it could have been Drew... regardless, the overarching story is already done.

[unclee]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

Mac Walters is credited as the lead writer of ME2...
and I refuse to believe Drew wrote that lame story.

Karpyshyn did the basic outline for the trilogy years ago when he wrote the first game (Couldn't provide you a link if I tried because I remember them saying this waaaaay back around when ME1 came out).

Walters was the lead writer on ME2, however, he was working on the framework that Karpyshyn created (which is the reason Karpyshyn is credited alongside Walters for ME2).

It's likely it'll be the same for ME3 seeing as how Karpyshyn is now doing work for TOR at the Texas studio.

Modifié par unclee, 13 décembre 2010 - 12:56 .

[shinobi602]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

.........the story.

...why?

[JoePilot]

shinobi602 wrote...

Anticitizen1 wrote...

.........the story.

...why?

Because his vision for the plot and pacing of ME2 sucked.  Bad.

[Nozybidaj]

unclee wrote...

Karpyshyn did the basic outline for the trilogy years ago when he wrote the first game

This I would believe.

Walters was the lead writer on ME2, however, he was working on the framework that Karpyshyn created

This not so much.  It doesn't take much critical looking to see ME2 was a departure form the original story laid down by ME1.  It was a reboot, not a sequel.

[darknoon5]

Mac or Drew didn't write the "framework" for the overall plot. True they definetly have a lot of power as lead writers, but they don't decide what the actual plot is, just what direction it goes in.

[Schneidend]

Nozybidaj wrote...

This not so much.  It doesn't take much critical looking to see ME2 was a departure form the original story laid down by ME1.  It was a reboot, not a sequel.

That's purely subjective. I happen to think ME2 is a perfectly faithful sequel, and hope Mac keeps up the good work in ME3.

[AdmiralCheez]

Schneidend wrote...

That's purely subjective. I happen to think ME2 is a perfectly faithful sequel, and hope Mac keeps up the good work in ME3.

Indeed.

But remember kids: Drew wrote the books, too.  And those kind of sucked (IMO).

Then again, Mac wrote the comics.  Which sucked worse...

Yeah, stick to writing videogames, lads.  It's what you're best at.

[Aigyl]

Wasn't Mac Walters the main writer for Garrus, Wrex, and the Illusive Man? Three of ME's most popular characters?

Anyway, yes, I recall in an interview Walters and the rest of the team follow a framework set out way back at ME1. Collectors, Human Reaper, Cerberus, and all that jazz were likely to have been planned out when Drew was in charge.

Also, my memory is rusty but any complaints about ME2's story cannot be laid solely at Walter's feet. I recall Didymos possesses a quote that the Lead Designers and Walters all plan out the story's plot, themes, characters, etc. in meetings. Then Walters gets feedback from the rest of the writing team and modifications can be made. Just substitute Drew Karpshyn with Mac Walters and its the same setup.

All the writing team and other development teams have a say in what happens in ME's plot. To pin any dislike of ME2's new direction solely at the feet of one man is hardly fair. It was all a team effort decided and agreed upon by multiple people.

[Da_Lion_Man]

Even if he is, I'm going to give him a chance.

[InvaderErl]

Schneidend wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

This not so much.  It doesn't take much critical looking to see ME2 was a departure form the original story laid down by ME1.  It was a reboot, not a sequel.

That's purely subjective. I happen to think ME2 is a perfectly faithful sequel, and hope Mac keeps up the good work in ME3.

Very much this

and this

Aigyl wrote...

Wasn't Mac Walters the main writer for Garrus, Wrex, and the Illusive Man? Three of ME's most popular characters?

Anyway, yes, I recall in an interview Walters and the rest of the team follow a framework set out way back at ME1. Collectors, Human Reaper, Cerberus, and all that jazz were likely to have been planned out when Drew was in
charge.

Also, my memory is rusty but any complaints about ME2's story cannot be laid solely at Walter's feet. I recall Didymos possesses a quote that the Lead Designers and Walters all plan out the story's plot, themes, characters, etc. in meetings. Then Walters gets feedback  from the rest of the writing team and modifications can be made. Just substitute Drew Karpshyn with Mac Walters and its the same setup.

All the writing team and other development teams have a say in what happens in ME's plot. To pin any dislike of ME2's new direction solely at the feet of one man is hardly fair. It was all a team effort decided and agreed upon by multiple people.

Also just to point out, the plot of Mass Effect 1 was NOT that great, had its own share of plot holes (how the heck does Shepard know that Saren is going to attack the Citadel prior to meeting Vigil?), and a lot of it was cribbed off of the superior KoTOR. That being said I preferred ME2's episodic approach - felt like I had just watched a season of a really fantastic sci fi show.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 03 février 2011 - 05:23 .

[bjdbwea]

Nozybidaj wrote...

unclee wrote...

Karpyshyn did the basic outline for the trilogy years ago when he wrote the first game

This I would believe.

Walters was the lead writer on ME2, however, he was working on the framework that Karpyshyn created

This not so much. It doesn't take much critical looking to see ME2 was a departure form the original story laid down by ME1. It was a reboot, not a sequel.

I think that of course the writer(s) of ME 1 had a vision for the rest of the trilogy. But I do not believe for a second that the main story of ME 2 is much like it. I think that the story had to be changed significantly, probably for several reasons.

a) They were told to create separate independent short stories to make the game easier palatable for the mainstream.

They had to find a way to reset the story and sideline most of the important characters, so that new players and PS 3 gamers would not be at a disadvantage.

c) They were probably working under time constraints. This affects not so much the writing, because even a good story can be written within the time, at least by good writers. But anything that's written, must of course be implemented, and in a game like this, that means creating cutscenes. It seems obvious to me that for example the recurring conversations between Shepard and TIM in always the same bland office were a result of the lack of time to create more diverse cutscenes.

Bottom line: Whoever writes ME 3 will hopefully be able and allowed to do a better job than ME 2 was.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 03 février 2011 - 06:06 .

[Haristo]

SOG TOUGH wrote...

The main story was written years ago for the entire trilogy, but the actual game-script can have various writers.

This is what I think.

also, as already said, Drew is working on SWTOR, creating the Jedis and Sith classes Scenarios. that's a long job... and considering he wrote Darth Bane, I'm really fine and totally agree this choice.