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[Dean_the_Young]

Vaenier wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

I guess I am just still mad that they didnt have a backup relay. Its not like the Citadel relay is special, the regular relays can easily go just as far.

...no, the implication has been that the Citadel Relay is special because the regular relays can't go as far.

There isn't some regular relay hidden somewhere inside the Citadel. (Well, there is, but the Conduit isn't close to a Reaper relay, and wasn't built by the Reapers.) The entire Citadel is a Mass Relay, one magnitudes larger than any primary relay (of which also work in pairs).

they were not that far from the galaxy acording to the end of me2. 50,000 lightyears actually after some math.

We're never given any hard numbers or distance into dark space, we're given a pretty camera angle that emphasizes dramatic effect of the Reapers approaching the galaxy, in a game with a history of screwing with relative sizes and distances for dramatic effect.

So, no. No win.

[AlexMBrennan]

The reaper attack might part of the prologue and not the endgame (much like the destruction of the Normandy). A plausible explanation for their presence on earth is as follows:

The reapers shown destroying London are not the ones we saw powering up in dark space at the end of ME2; instead they are a small strike force that spent centuries hiding (disguised as frozen moons of some planet of no importance in a remote system or whatever) much like Sovereign. They travel to Sol, disable the mass relay and take out the fleet guarding Sol. Earth, cut off from the rest of the galactic community, is now an easy target. *Shepard*, however, still has the reaper IFF which means he (aided by his geth/quarian/rachni fleet) is the only one who could possibly save Earth.

[Vaenier]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

they were not that far from the galaxy acording to the end of me2. 50,000 lightyears actually after some math.

We're never given any hard numbers or distance into dark space, we're given a pretty camera angle that emphasizes dramatic effect of the Reapers approaching the galaxy, in a game with a history of screwing with relative sizes and distances for dramatic effect.

So, no. No win.

ahh, so bioware fail. When you cant believe what your eyes are telling you, its really hard to get immersed in a universe...

new idea: gate bridge.

Modifié par Vaenier, 13 décembre 2010 - 02:48 .

[Xilizhra]

I always thought the Reapers could fly over here whenever they wanted, they just used the Citadel relay to pop into the seat of government and kill the galactic leaders all at once, then shut down the mass relay network. A conventional invasion would require a lot more resources, time and effort, and could theoretically lead to the Reapers losing, which they don't want to risk.

[Dean_the_Young]

Vaenier wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

they were not that far from the galaxy acording to the end of me2. 50,000 lightyears actually after some math.

We're never given any hard numbers or distance into dark space, we're given a pretty camera angle that emphasizes dramatic effect of the Reapers approaching the galaxy, in a game with a history of screwing with relative sizes and distances for dramatic effect.

So, no. No win.

ahh, so bioware fail. When you cant believe what your eyes are telling you, its really hard to get immersed in a universe...

You can believe what your eyes are telling you. You shouldn't believe what the set up isn't telling you: our eyes were telling us 'the Reapers are outside the galaxy, and approaching,' they were not telling us where outside the galaxy they were. No distances given.

new idea: gate bridge.

So... a Citadel-scale Mass Relay?

[Praetor Knight]

Vaenier wrote...

new idea: gate bridge.

Maybe the true purpose of the Citadel?

At least the Citadel seemed to have been a "gate" that the Reapers used before to get back into the Galaxy from where ever they may be.

[JRCHOharry]

Xilizhra wrote...

I always thought the Reapers could fly over here whenever they wanted, they just used the Citadel relay to pop into the seat of government and kill the galactic leaders all at once, then shut down the mass relay network. A conventional invasion would require a lot more resources, time and effort, and could theoretically lead to the Reapers losing, which they don't want to risk.

And the Reapers are also able to locate the populated regions of the galaxy. Habitated planets, space stations etc.

It would be pretty hard, even for the Reapers, to find all populated worlds without the knowledge from the Citadel Council races.

[Vaenier]

JRCHOharry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I always thought the Reapers could fly over here whenever they wanted, they just used the Citadel relay to pop into the seat of government and kill the galactic leaders all at once, then shut down the mass relay network. A conventional invasion would require a lot more resources, time and effort, and could theoretically lead to the Reapers losing, which they don't want to risk.

And the Reapers are also able to locate the populated regions of the galaxy. Habitated planets, space stations etc.

It would be pretty hard, even for the Reapers, to find all populated worlds without the knowledge from the Citadel Council races.

Internet. just open up google milkyway and it will tell you where all the population centers are. worked for the geth.

[JRCHOharry]

Vaenier wrote...

JRCHOharry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I always thought the Reapers could fly over here whenever they wanted, they just used the Citadel relay to pop into the seat of government and kill the galactic leaders all at once, then shut down the mass relay network. A conventional invasion would require a lot more resources, time and effort, and could theoretically lead to the Reapers losing, which they don't want to risk.

And the Reapers are also able to locate the populated regions of the galaxy. Habitated planets, space stations etc.

It would be pretty hard, even for the Reapers, to find all populated worlds without the knowledge from the Citadel Council races.

Internet. just open up google milkyway and it will tell you where all the population centers are. worked for the geth.

But the internet is password protected.

[In Exile]

008Zulu wrote...
Then it would take 50,000 years for the Reapers to get here, even if their engine were twice as powerful, thats still 25,000 years. So if they have an alternative method for getting here, then forgive the rather blatetly obvious question: Why have the Citadel Relay (surprise attacks being the exception) or any of the Relays?

It probably has to do with the supernova suns and dark energy. I'd bet the reapers are building a wormhole.

[Harley_Dude]

Taking over the Citadel provided a tactical advantage by shutting off the various galaxies from each other. According to ME1 this allowed them to divide and conquer each advanced race over a long period of time. They would still need a relay close to them to get to the Citadal (plan A) which could also be used to get to another destination (plan . I think plan B is cutting off the head of the snake (humans). Shepard has shown the Reapers that humans are the greatest threat since they neutralized 2 Reapers.

[Zulu_DFA]

sdc3536 wrote...

After seeing the new trailer and the Reapers attack I found myself asking this question. What was the point of the reapers having Sarus opening up the Citadel relay? I mean they were delayed in their plans but they still managed to get themselves into the galaxy just by flying there. Also, wouldnt have just flying to the galaxy without alerting everyone (i.e. the actions of sarus) and taking them by surprise have been the better option?

Of course it would be a better option. Check out this thread for a possible explanation of this "plot hole".