I think there were more Reapers lurking around the galaxy in hiding than we know about. Sovereign was the vanguard, once the Citadel was taken over, Reapers inside the Milky Way would then be activated to secure the arrival of the rest of the Reaper fleet.
Personally, I think planets like Ploba, Zayarter and Preying Mouth are locations where Reapers are actually lying in wait.
How did the Reapers get here so fast?
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 01:02
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Well, I guess they have been traveling since the end of ME1, so there's 2 years already.
And my god, stop being silly. All they have to do is travel from dark space to the nearest relay and then they use the relay connections to reach solar system.
And my god, stop being silly. All they have to do is travel from dark space to the nearest relay and then they use the relay connections to reach solar system.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 01:15
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You are told at a specific part in me1... that its unlikely the reaper your chasing was the ONLY reaper left behind incase something went wrong.
Reapers also aint invinceable...
Further more if say 10 reapers just attacked out of no where without shutting down the gates.. they could lose... AND leave behind tech for the organics to research... they may even develop jamming for indoctorination fields.
We know at least one race developed the ability to detected indoctorinated organics.
Reapers tried once to start the Invasion
They failed
Reapers try a second time, this time using a implement based on the primary cause of there defeat during the first try(humans)
They Failed.
Humans may now have access to a partialy completed reaper.. they may have access to a Collectors base, and they DO have access to the Omega relay and Reaper IFF codes... which means they have BILLIONS of ships as salvage in the Omega Relay end point.
Who knows what secrects and technogly they contain.. infact.. if they contain records of previous reaper invasions the COUNCIL couldnt dismiss them.. which means the entire citidel union would prepere for war.
Human technogly also went from being destroyed by a collector ship, to taking on a collector ship and attack drones and winning in just 2-3 years.
The Reapers are out of time.
Reapers also aint invinceable...
Further more if say 10 reapers just attacked out of no where without shutting down the gates.. they could lose... AND leave behind tech for the organics to research... they may even develop jamming for indoctorination fields.
We know at least one race developed the ability to detected indoctorinated organics.
Reapers tried once to start the Invasion
They failed
Reapers try a second time, this time using a implement based on the primary cause of there defeat during the first try(humans)
They Failed.
Humans may now have access to a partialy completed reaper.. they may have access to a Collectors base, and they DO have access to the Omega relay and Reaper IFF codes... which means they have BILLIONS of ships as salvage in the Omega Relay end point.
Who knows what secrects and technogly they contain.. infact.. if they contain records of previous reaper invasions the COUNCIL couldnt dismiss them.. which means the entire citidel union would prepere for war.
Human technogly also went from being destroyed by a collector ship, to taking on a collector ship and attack drones and winning in just 2-3 years.
The Reapers are out of time.
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Posté 28 décembre 2010 - 11:57
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obviously the attack on earth is just a minor renegade consequence of not getting the love-poem-singing krogan and the asari together in ME2. it has already been established that you should not **ck with a(ny) krogan if you value your wellbeing.
wings of a butterfly and so on... anyone?
wings of a butterfly and so on... anyone?
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 12:57
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RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Well, I guess they have been traveling since the end of ME1, so there's 2 years already.
And my god, stop being silly. All they have to do is travel from dark space to the nearest relay and then they use the relay connections to reach solar system.
Nooooo - that would create a massive plot hole!
If it only takes them a few years instead of, say, thousands to fly in, then what would be the point of Sovereign risking so much (i.e. Sovereign's own survival, knowledge of the Reaper's existence, not to mention their plan to kill everyone) to open a portal that merely shaves off a few years of travel when instead Sovereign could have (after its signal failed to open the citadel) kept silent and hidden, and simply tell the Reapers to just fly in instead, in which case, NO one - not Shepard, not Saren, NO one - would have even seen it coming and had a chance?
Furthermore it would make Sovereign's presense in the galaxy redundant - he wasn't there JUST to send a signal to the citadel and to monitor the "situation" - the Reapers can do that from dark space and they have the Collectors anyway. The only reason left for Sovereign to be in the galaxy must be to do with the fact that Sovereign had to physically dock with the citadel in the event the signal didn't work - and the fact that Sovereign went out of its way to do something so utterly dangerous can only mean that it was extremely important to do so and that it was better than the Reapers slowly flying in, which implies that flying in must take a ludicrous amount of time.
So my money is on the Reapers trying to find another way to get into the galaxy - I reckon they are improvising a plan B where they are trying to destablize Haestrom's sun to create a portal, and that this is a very crude alternative to using the citadel -- an option that they are only now forced to consider, despite the potential danger to them.
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 02:25
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Didn't Harbinger say something about "finding another way" in the end of Mass Effect 2?
Well, I guess they just found another way...
Well, I guess they just found another way...
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 02:29
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A mass relay creates a mass effect field so powerful it reduces things to zero mass.
Reapers have very powerful mass effect fields, such that even though it should be impossible for something of their size to enter a typical planet's atmosphere, they can.
Hence, my theory is that they simply pool their mass effect fields together to achieve the same effect as a relay. They make several jumps over a period of a year or more, taking breaks in between, and voila, reaper invasion.
Reapers have very powerful mass effect fields, such that even though it should be impossible for something of their size to enter a typical planet's atmosphere, they can.
Hence, my theory is that they simply pool their mass effect fields together to achieve the same effect as a relay. They make several jumps over a period of a year or more, taking breaks in between, and voila, reaper invasion.
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 02:34
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Schneidend wrote...
A mass relay creates a mass effect field so powerful it reduces things to zero mass.
Reapers have very powerful mass effect fields, such that even though it should be impossible for something of their size to enter a typical planet's atmosphere, they can.
Hence, my theory is that they simply pool their mass effect fields together to achieve the same effect as a relay. They make several jumps over a period of a year or more, taking breaks in between, and voila, reaper invasion.
I'm cool with that, if, and only if, it's a very dangerous thing for the Reapers to do. Otherwise it would present a big plot hole as mentioned further up.
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 02:43
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AwesomeName wrote...
I'm cool with that, if, and only if, it's a very dangerous thing for the Reapers to do. Otherwise it would present a big plot hole as mentioned further up.
It's really not possible for it to be a plot hole, since it has been previously established that the Reapers' drive cores are incredibly powerful.
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 02:45
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Schneidend wrote...
AwesomeName wrote...
I'm cool with that, if, and only if, it's a very dangerous thing for the Reapers to do. Otherwise it would present a big plot hole as mentioned further up.
It's really not possible for it to be a plot hole, since it has been previously established that the Reapers' drive cores are incredibly powerful.
Read my post further up - if it's not a dangerous thing for them to do it would be a massive plot hole.
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 02:53
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Sovereign risks so much because the Citadel entrance doesn't just shave off a few years of travel time. Attacking via the Citadel relay is a HUGE tactical boon. It gives them complete control over the relay network and allows them to immediately obliterate the central leadership of galactic civilization. They also have access to any census data taken by those using the Citadel, meaning they know where everybody in Council space lives.
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Posté 29 décembre 2010 - 03:01
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Schneidend wrote...
Sovereign risks so much because the Citadel entrance doesn't just shave off a few years of travel time. Attacking via the Citadel relay is a HUGE tactical boon. It gives them complete control over the relay network and allows them to immediately obliterate the central leadership of galactic civilization. They also have access to any census data taken by those using the Citadel, meaning they know where everybody in Council space lives.
That's HARDLY good enough. Sovereign could still have kept itself hidden and waited for the Reapers to come in full force and gone for the citadel in number with little warning to anyone in the galaxy and achieve the same result. So that can't be why the risk was made - it surely must've been done to either shave off an astronomically long trip, or a dangerous one.
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