Like many people, i think, I was disappointed the Wynne's character quest didn't have anything to do with trying to find her Son. I figured hey maybe that's because Bioware wants him to play a bigger role. So I was going to make a post in the DA2 forums when this crazy idea occured to me. Forgive me if it's not new.
What if Anders was Wynne's son. She hopes her son ended up like Alistar, Anders is often referred to as Mage Alistair. Even before her "death" Wynne was probably mostly focused on healing spells, Anders has a bunch of healing spells and is a spirit healer. Plus the irony of Wynne believing th Tower to be best for the Mages, and Anders constant escape attempts.
What do you all think?
Wild Theory Time: Anders is Wynne's son
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 02:54
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No.
Great theory, though.
The points is, Wynne and Anders would have been in *the same* tower for years and years. They would have known each other.
I think one of the devs may have also said this wasn't true ages ago...
Pity, good theory. I also like the Maric's son theory... but anyone could be that philanderer's son!
Great theory, though.
The points is, Wynne and Anders would have been in *the same* tower for years and years. They would have known each other.
I think one of the devs may have also said this wasn't true ages ago...
Pity, good theory. I also like the Maric's son theory... but anyone could be that philanderer's son!
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 03:08
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Maric led the Alistair way -- by losing his pants.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 03:58
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..you people that judge Maric so quickly ought to read the novels. He only has two sons, cut the man some slack.
As for the Anders as Wynne's son theory.. well, old theory is old and Stoomkal already explains why it doesn't work out. Also, Anders didn't grow up in a chantry (as far as we know he had a fairly normal life until his magic manifested in his teen years) and whatever happened to Wynne's son.. he was probably raised by the Chantry in one form or another. They do that with orphans and "unwanted" children.
As for the Anders as Wynne's son theory.. well, old theory is old and Stoomkal already explains why it doesn't work out. Also, Anders didn't grow up in a chantry (as far as we know he had a fairly normal life until his magic manifested in his teen years) and whatever happened to Wynne's son.. he was probably raised by the Chantry in one form or another. They do that with orphans and "unwanted" children.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 04:00
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Stoomkal wrote...
No.
Great theory, though.
The points is, Wynne and Anders would have been in *the same* tower for years and years. They would have known each other.
I think one of the devs may have also said this wasn't true ages ago...
Pity, good theory. I also like the Maric's son theory... but anyone could be that philanderer's son!
True, them both being in the same circle is a stumbling block, but I mean perhaps she didn't reconize him or something...
But if one of the devs debunked it awhile ago then oh well
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 04:27
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leonia42 wrote...
..you people that judge Maric so quickly ought to read the novels. He only has two sons, cut the man some slack.
Aww, I was kidding.
Actually, I did read the novels. I think they can be interpreted to mean that Maric has two sons that he knows about. I don't recall any statements about him being utterly celibate after the events of The Calling, but maybe I wasn't paying attention. I'm not really a big fan of Maric.
But back on topic, I was disappointed that we didn't have the chance to track down Wynne's son. Maybe he'll show up in DA2?
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 04:33
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Maybe her son is dead. Maybe he became a templar and hates mages. Maybe he's totally irrelevant. Not every character related to a companion has to be interesing.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 05:11
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I think that finding Wynne's son would be much more cool than finding her elf apprentice. If we consider that Wynne is 60-ish +, her son can be 30 ~ 40 year old, I guess?
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 06:09
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leonia42 wrote...
..you people that judge Maric so quickly ought to read the novels. He only has two sons, cut the man some slack.
As for the Anders as Wynne's son theory.. well, old theory is old and Stoomkal already explains why it doesn't work out. Also, Anders didn't grow up in a chantry (as far as we know he had a fairly normal life until his magic manifested in his teen years) and whatever happened to Wynne's son.. he was probably raised by the Chantry in one form or another. They do that with orphans and "unwanted" children.
The books don't help Maric out all that much IMO...
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 06:12
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leonia42 wrote...
Maybe her son is dead. Maybe he became a templar and hates mages. Maybe he's totally irrelevant. Not every character related to a companion has to be interesing.
Chekhov disagrees
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 06:25
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Sabariel wrote...
leonia42 wrote...
..you people that judge Maric so quickly ought to read the novels. He only has two sons, cut the man some slack.
As for the Anders as Wynne's son theory.. well, old theory is old and Stoomkal already explains why it doesn't work out. Also, Anders didn't grow up in a chantry (as far as we know he had a fairly normal life until his magic manifested in his teen years) and whatever happened to Wynne's son.. he was probably raised by the Chantry in one form or another. They do that with orphans and "unwanted" children.
The books don't help Maric out all that much IMO...
They certainly don't imply he is promiscous or interested in sleeping around with just anyone as so many around here like to assume.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 06:44
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leonia42 wrote...
Sabariel wrote...
leonia42 wrote...
..you people that judge Maric so quickly ought to read the novels. He only has two sons, cut the man some slack.
As for the Anders as Wynne's son theory.. well, old theory is old and Stoomkal already explains why it doesn't work out. Also, Anders didn't grow up in a chantry (as far as we know he had a fairly normal life until his magic manifested in his teen years) and whatever happened to Wynne's son.. he was probably raised by the Chantry in one form or another. They do that with orphans and "unwanted" children.
The books don't help Maric out all that much IMO...
They certainly don't imply he is promiscous or interested in sleeping around with just anyone as so many around here like to assume.
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No... they do not *imply* his promiscuity...
They *detail* it!!!
Which books were you reading?
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 07:43
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leonia42 wrote...
Sabariel wrote...
leonia42 wrote...
..you people that judge Maric so quickly ought to read the novels. He only has two sons, cut the man some slack.
As for the Anders as Wynne's son theory.. well, old theory is old and Stoomkal already explains why it doesn't work out. Also, Anders didn't grow up in a chantry (as far as we know he had a fairly normal life until his magic manifested in his teen years) and whatever happened to Wynne's son.. he was probably raised by the Chantry in one form or another. They do that with orphans and "unwanted" children.
The books don't help Maric out all that much IMO...
They certainly don't imply he is promiscous or interested in sleeping around with just anyone as so many around here like to assume.
He leaps into bed with Katriel, a woman he barely knows, at the speed of light so it did seem to me that he was in fact willing to sleep with "just anyone" who fluttered their eyelashes prettily at him.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 07:43
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The ones where the women approached him first, who is he to say no?
Katriel started it when he was wounded and weak (and yeah he was a bit naive there, but he was young and attracted to her).
Fiona pretty much did the same thing though for different reasons.
And obviously there was Rowan, his wife, who he had Cailan with.
So he slept with 3 women and that makes him promiscous? It's not like he was cheating or betraying anyone (though he was betrothed to Rowan she was more interested in Loghain when Katriel was interested in Maric so it didn't seem like such a bad idea at the time) and I don't see why that means that post-The Calling he suddenly felt a dramatic shift in his own morality and decided to sleep around.
Katriel started it when he was wounded and weak (and yeah he was a bit naive there, but he was young and attracted to her).
Fiona pretty much did the same thing though for different reasons.
And obviously there was Rowan, his wife, who he had Cailan with.
So he slept with 3 women and that makes him promiscous? It's not like he was cheating or betraying anyone (though he was betrothed to Rowan she was more interested in Loghain when Katriel was interested in Maric so it didn't seem like such a bad idea at the time) and I don't see why that means that post-The Calling he suddenly felt a dramatic shift in his own morality and decided to sleep around.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 07:50
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To fall for Katriel (when he was still unmarried) is a far cry from sleeping around with random women during his marriage. One could expect that Maric did learn something, when Katriel's secret was revealed and she met her fate, don't you think?Sabariel wrote...
He leaps into bed with Katriel, a woman he barely knows, at the speed of light so it did seem to me that he was in fact willing to sleep with "just anyone" who fluttered their eyelashes prettily at him.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 07:51
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Depending on which Alistair origin you believe Maric's skagginess increases or decreases. I don't particularly want to debate it because debates bore me easily. So I'll just leave it at that 
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 08:02
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For what it's worth, I support Fiona as Alistair's mum. Maybe that clouds my view of things a bit.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 08:07
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And I've never particularly liked Maric. He's always rubbed me the wrong way (pun not intended) and perhaps that is my own set of clouds.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 08:16
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Hey every cloud has a silver-lining..
Ok, bad humour is bad. Sorry if I seemed a little too confrontational. I get protective of Maric
Ok, bad humour is bad. Sorry if I seemed a little too confrontational. I get protective of Maric
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 09:10
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ThunderfoxF wrote...
Like many people, i think, I was disappointed the Wynne's character quest didn't have anything to do with trying to find her Son. I figured hey maybe that's because Bioware wants him to play a bigger role. So I was going to make a post in the DA2 forums when this crazy idea occured to me. Forgive me if it's not new.
What if Anders was Wynne's son. She hopes her son ended up like Alistar, Anders is often referred to as Mage Alistair. Even before her "death" Wynne was probably mostly focused on healing spells, Anders has a bunch of healing spells and is a spirit healer. Plus the irony of Wynne believing th Tower to be best for the Mages, and Anders constant escape attempts.
What do you all think?
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Nah if anything he's the son of Maric and Flemeth.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 09:41
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@ Addai - I actually didn't think it possible for Flemeth to have sons. All we hear about are her daughters. Maybe she does something while the baby is in the womb that prohibits them from becoming boys.
Edit: I also thought that a son search quest would be pretty nice for Wynne. Giving her closure on that part of her life is, in my opinion alot more important than finding her long lost student.
Edit: I also thought that a son search quest would be pretty nice for Wynne. Giving her closure on that part of her life is, in my opinion alot more important than finding her long lost student.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 10:45
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I agree about Anerin. He is Wynne's biggest regret, and yet their reunion lasts only a couple minutes, as if her side quest was done in a hurry and implemented at the last minute. Not to mention...his big lips are scary.
Wynne finding her son would certainly be interesting. If he was taken away as a baby, how would Wynne find him while she's still around? The last image Wynne would have had of her son would have been as an infant, and he's probably in his 40's by now or older. I also doubt that the chantry would have kept any means around for Wynne to do research. Perhaps Wynne's son did make an appearance somewhere. It's highly unlikely he or Wynne would have recognized each other even if they did meet. Perhaps she could have killed him during battle without knowing?
Wynne finding her son would certainly be interesting. If he was taken away as a baby, how would Wynne find him while she's still around? The last image Wynne would have had of her son would have been as an infant, and he's probably in his 40's by now or older. I also doubt that the chantry would have kept any means around for Wynne to do research. Perhaps Wynne's son did make an appearance somewhere. It's highly unlikely he or Wynne would have recognized each other even if they did meet. Perhaps she could have killed him during battle without knowing?
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 11:08
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They should've aged Alistair up and made him Wynne's son. Of course he wouldn't be Maric's bastard then, but oh well...
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 11:10
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Sabariel wrote...
They should've aged Alistair up and made him Wynne's son. Of course he wouldn't be Maric's bastard then, but oh well...
That would have made the Return to Ostagar banter even more creepy.
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Posté 15 décembre 2010 - 11:12
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leonia42 wrote...
Sabariel wrote...
They should've aged Alistair up and made him Wynne's son. Of course he wouldn't be Maric's bastard then, but oh well...
That would have made the Return to Ostagar banter even more creepy.
But the banter after they realized they were mother and son would be hilarious.
...Or perhaps I'm just twisted
