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[KDawg0713]

 I'm really curious about whether or not blood magic will be learned from another demon or maybe a blood mage this time.  I want to know about all specs, but as I'm seriously considering doing a blood mage who is actually a good person, I was wondering if learning it will require me to do something really evil again.

[Matchy Pointy]

I hope we wont learn it, but that's just my distaste for blood magic talking .

[Leonia]

Maybe Mage Hawke already knows it at the beginning.. or maybe we get a blood mage companion, that might be fun.

[nightcobra]

maybe there's a "resistance" group of mages hiding in kirkwall, with some of them knowing the arts of blood magic.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 15 décembre 2010 - 02:38 .

[Maria Caliban]

Hawke doesn't start with blood magic.

If there's blood magic, I hope to pick it up with my mage character. I'm not going to do something horrible to get it, however.

[nightcobra]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke doesn't start with blood magic.

If there's blood magic, I hope to pick it up with my mage character. I'm not going to do something horrible to get it, however.

me too, power isn't inherently good or evil, it's how you use it that makes the difference.

[Leonia]

I hear with great power comes great responsibility. Or something.

[IndigoWolfe]

If I were to make a wild, entirely unsupported guess; I would predict that Hawke's father teaches the skill.

[Vylan Antagonist]

More importantly (to me, anyways), will anyone give a fig when we run around using it? Or will we be able to nonchalantly drain our allies to power our magic without any repercussions?



Given the way DA:O emphasized the power and danger of blood magic, the player version seemed comparatively toothless and inconsequential. Maybe it shouldn't really even be a player option?

[nightcobra]

leonia42 wrote...

I hear with great power comes great responsibility. Or something.

hey, even though i read that from a spiderman comic it's still one of my favorite sayings ever.
 

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 15 décembre 2010 - 02:49 .

[Ziggeh]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

me too, power isn't inherently good or evil, it's how you use it that makes the difference.

I'm not sure that's true in this case. The fade seems to naturally divide emotions into positive and negative, Thedas' magic derives from a place that does have absolutes.

[Leonia]

ziggehunderslash wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

me too, power isn't inherently good or evil, it's how you use it that makes the difference.

I'm not sure that's true in this case. The fade seems to naturally divide emotions into positive and negative, Thedas' magic derives from a place that does have absolutes.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[blothulfur]

When young hawke cut himself shaving all kinds of weird crap started happening, thats how he discovered blood magic and why he sports a beard. For the fems its the same but you'll never see ladyhawkes hairy legs.

[nightcobra]

ziggehunderslash wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

me too, power isn't inherently good or evil, it's how you use it that makes the difference.

I'm not sure that's true in this case. The fade seems to naturally divide emotions into positive and negative, Thedas' magic derives from a place that does have absolutes.

i'd like to believe that if you give someone power, is where you see their true colors.
even a seemingly good person with good intentions might be corrupted by having power.
as for me, i believe that power isn't inherently good or evil but that it can corrupt should the user not be ready for it.

[KDawg0713]

For those who doubt there will be blood magic, I am just making the assumption based on the fact that trailer Hawke is a blood mage, and it is one of the most iconic forms of magic in DA in my opinion.

[TTTX]

Hawkes father is a mage, an apostate, maybe Hawke learned it from him.

[Ziggeh]

leonia42 wrote...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

I like to pretend that film doen't exist. Like Blues Brothers 2000, if I never see it, it never happened.

[Vylan Antagonist]

nightcobra8928 wrote...
as for me, i believe that power isn't inherently good or evil but that it can corrupt should the user not be ready for it.

In the real world, maybe, but I'm not sure that holds true in Thedas, where demons teach mortals Blood Magic. The forge is another example-  It's pretty much powered by evil acts. With Blood Magic and the Forge, the only truly 'good' choice may be not to use it at all.

[Snoteye]

A book you can buy at the local inn.

[Ziggeh]

nightcobra8928 wrote...
i'd like to believe that if you give someone power, is where you see their true colors.
even a seemingly good person with good intentions might be corrupted by having power.
as for me, i believe that power isn't inherently good or evil but that it can corrupt should the user not be ready for it.

Power, generally speaking I'd say yeah, but magic, and specifically blood magic, I'm not certain we can make that case. It comes from a setting with a clear ethical dichotomy, it's taught, at least initially by the "evil" side of that divide (either because the student did something for them or perhaps because they just like my next point), and by definition, it hurts someone to use it.

[aegiser]

Blood magic can only be obtained by the most evil of acts: intentionally giving everyone in your party AIDS. Muhahahaha!!!!

[Ziggeh]

Snoteye wrote...

A book you can buy at the local inn.

Hah, indeed, there is that.

[Tinxa]

Will we even have to "learn" the specialisations from someone in DA2?

Maybe the devs decided against it because the players that only play through once can't get them all and all the specialisations will be available once you reach a certain level.

[nightcobra]

Vylan Antagonist wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...
as for me, i believe that power isn't inherently good or evil but that it can corrupt should the user not be ready for it.

In the real world, maybe, but I'm not sure that holds true in Thedas, where demons teach mortals Blood Magic. The forge is another example-  It's pretty much powered by evil acts. With Blood Magic and the Forge, the only truly 'good' choice may be not to use it at all.

though a demon might hold the knowledge for blood magic, it think the reason they use it as a bargaining chip with mortals is that they know how much mortals crave for power and being one of the most if not the most powerful magic school in existence rather than the power itself being evil.

blood magic requires a sacrifice for it to work, this often leads to the user sacrificing others for purpose of using it instead of himself/herself.

if a blood mage only uses himself/herself as the source for the blood magic and is generally a good person, to the point that he'd/she'd rather die than sacrificing someone else i woudn't think of the person in question as evil.

 

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 15 décembre 2010 - 03:14 .

[KDawg0713]

Tinxa wrote...

Will we even have to "learn" the specialisations from someone in DA2?
Maybe the devs decided against it because the players that only play through once can't get them all and all the specialisations will be available once you reach a certain level.

That could be possible, but from a story perspective I somewhat hope that isn't the case.  Randomly learning blood magic would be odd.  (For example I almost always learned arcane warrior from the vial even though after the first time I no longer need to just for RP sake.)