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Now that ME3 is coming out, how do you feel about gay LI?


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So I remember at the beginning of the year there were a lot of people on the forums begging BW to put in gay and lesbian love interests. I was just wondering if people still cared as much, or if the community has come to accept that there is a huge possibility that there will be no gay LI in Mass Effect.

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I don't want it.

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i thought you can have lesbian LI in ME2, cant i romance Liara and Yeoman Chambers as a women in that?



as for gay, i LOLed today as my maleshep playthrough had got advanced befor i romanced tali, i spoke to Mordin, and he said somthing like

'i know different races deal with stress in different ways, you come here to talk to me allot, not interested'



I wouldnt object to a gay option, not my preference, but i doubt bible belt america would like it, the more i think about it, its a frontier games have yet to cross lol

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Encarmine wrote...

i thought you can have lesbian LI in ME2, cant i romance Liara and Yeoman Chambers as a women in that?

as for gay, i LOLed today as my maleshep playthrough had got advanced befor i romanced tali, i spoke to Mordin, and he said somthing like
'i know different races deal with stress in different ways, you come here to talk to me allot, not interested'

I wouldnt object to a gay option, not my preference, but i doubt bible belt america would like it, the more i think about it, its a frontier games have yet to cross lol


You're right about Chambers. I forgot that she was a LI. I guess Liara kind of counts, I remember a lot of people argued that she didn't really count as girl since Asari doesn't technically have a gender.

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It's about time that Bioware stops caving to the Media and their bias and release a Gay Character. Not a Bi character but a 'real' Gay character. Because right now in Bioware games it's like this.



Straight = Only shags the opposite Gender. Almost always outnumber their Gay Counterparts and have much better story representation than their Gay counterparts. EX - Alistair and Morrigan in DA are more important than Leliena and Zevran.

Gay must mean you're Bi! = Sleeps with both genders and is generally unimportant to the plot compared to their Straight Counterparts! Also, no Gay character is 'truely' Gay and must be shaggable by both Genders even though Straight characters are only shaggable by the opposite gender.

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Nope. Don't want it.


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Encarmine wrote...

i thought you can have lesbian LI in ME2, cant i romance Liara and Yeoman Chambers as a women in that?

as for gay, i LOLed today as my maleshep playthrough had got advanced befor i romanced tali, i spoke to Mordin, and he said somthing like
'i know different races deal with stress in different ways, you come here to talk to me allot, not interested'

I wouldnt object to a gay option, not my preference, but i doubt bible belt america would like it, the more i think about it, its a frontier games have yet to cross lol



I loled when he said the same to me and i bet many of us had the same reaction :)

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Don't want it, and doubt Bioware would do it at such a late stage.

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et2cetera wrote...

Nope. Don't want it.



Agreed and quite frankly, I don't understand why ME has to have so much drama associated with the LI concept.  Sometimes it appears that people are more interested in the gay/straight argument than the game itself.

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same arguements as the last 500 threads about it. People dont realize that its optional so they will scream NONONONo!

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It won't happen. They won't suddenly spring gay romances on us in ME3 when they avoided it in ME1 and 2. Although there are kind of lebian relationships in ME2. I just don't think they'll have male relationships

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I wish, but there are still plenty of homophobes who would complaining about it even when it is just an option and they wouldn´t need to romance them. See some of the posts above me. They don´t want it, but plenty of people do and while these who don´t want it wouldn´t romance them, they still want to take that option off from people who want it.



Now I realize how much my english sucks xD

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I'm indifferent about this. It probably won't happen due to EA's history with giving in when 'controversy' arises (MoH).

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Bioware has already talked about this at length (prior / after ME2 launch).... Bioware clearly has nothing against homosexual relationships (they occur in Dragon Age)... but they've said time and again that Shepard is still something of a pre-written character with certain characteristics / behavioral traits.



Shepard isn't "our" character to the extent our characters in Dragon Age are / were... he's more of an already pre-determined individual whom we (the player) just get to make certain choices about his actions, but not necessarily him/her as a person... this is why ME is a hybrid RPG, not a true RPG.



The writers opted that this character, Shepard, is / was heterosexual... the player doesn't get to choose this part of the Shepard's persona, because the writers felt it would alter their concept of who he/she is too drastically.



Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, the designers have already stated that Shepard would not have same-sex love interests.



Now if you go call Bioware anti-gay or whatever, then you're an idiot... go look at Dragon Age -- they weren't afraid / ashamed to allow same-sex relations in that game... so don't get on their backs about this.



For Shepard though, they opted to keep this pre-determined individual as heterosexual.



Perhaps you can look / hope to Bioware's future RPGs to find same-sex love interests, but clearly they've decided it isn't for Shep's trilogy.

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Mercedes-Benz wrote...

I don't want it.

 I dont particularly care for one either but I would be just as tolerant as I am with all gays IRL.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 15 décembre 2010 - 04:12 .


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The difference between Gay males and Gay females is its extremely awesome to watch 2 lesbians go at it no matter who you are as opposed to watching 2 gay men go at it. THAT is why their will never truly be a gay only male LI in the ME/DA series.

(Iam not a hater, Iam just stating the obvious)

Modifié par TexasToast712, 15 décembre 2010 - 04:18 .


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Hathur wrote...
The writers opted that this character, Shepard, is / was heterosexual... the player doesn't get to choose this part of the Shepard's persona, because the writers felt it would alter their concept of who he/she is too drastically.


My Shepard is not even remotely heterosexual.

They can try to backpedal on the asari all they want; they're still female.

Also, Kelly.

So it's just a double standard, plain and simple.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

The difference between Gay males and Gay females is its extremely awesome to watch 2 lesbians go at it no matter who you are as opposed to watching 2 gay men go at it. THAT is why their will never truly be a gay only male LI in the ME/DA series.


<sigh> read my post 2 up for why there's no same sex LI in ME2.

DA has gay LI and a gay "sex scene".. for male and female... your point is 100% false and invalid.

As a straight person myself, I feel your argument is also idiotic / childish.. I'm assuming you're an ignorant teenager (in which case you can be forgiven) or an adult who hasn't bothered to grow up (in which case, shame on you).

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Why not? It's okay to me, you don't have to romance the person.



As long as it's not with Kaidan, that would feel a bit forced.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Also, Kelly.



Isn't Kelly just in a classification all to her own?

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Hathur wrote...
The writers opted that this character, Shepard, is / was heterosexual... the player doesn't get to choose this part of the Shepard's persona, because the writers felt it would alter their concept of who he/she is too drastically.


My Shepard is not even remotely heterosexual.

They can try to backpedal on the asari all they want; they're still female.

Also, Kelly.

So it's just a double standard, plain and simple.


Kelly was certainly an expected factor, considering what the designers said about Shepard being heterosexual.

I'm not defending the situation either way... I'm merely stating why we are very unlikely to see a "proper" gay LI for Shepard in ME3... because the writers claim they designed him/her as straight (the Asari situation is more complex, since they aren't technically female in the sense that a human female is).

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Do you imagine it's very comfortable to do gay dialogues, animations, etc.

I mean imagine how awkward that would get

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The asari are very much female. Not in the same sense as humans because they reproduce via parthenogenesis. But that is a form reproduction used by females.



They are female, and a human woman in a relationship with an asari is either a lesbian, bisexual, or has an absurdly strong fetish for blue skin or head dealies.



lastpatriot wrote...

Isn't Kelly just in a classification all to her own?




Kelly is a bisexual human woman. A female Shepard's relationship with her is a homosexual romance. I suppose I don't know what you're trying to say with your "classification" comment.



So, yes, there are homosexual relationships in ME, but only for females.

It's a double standard, though I can't make the claim that BioWare is perpetuating it for homophobic reasons. Not that their reasoning really matters other than to say it is their game and they can do what they want, just as the fanbase can complain about it.

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Bioware does have a gay audience you know? and what's the deal it's optional i wouldn't do it but alot of people would, also Dragon Age orgins did it.

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SnakeHelah wrote...

Do you imagine it's very comfortable to do gay dialogues, animations, etc.
I mean imagine how awkward that would get


No more or less awkward than when Meer has to voice his romance dialogue to an alien called a Quarian.... or when Hale has to voice her romance dialogue to an alien called a Drell?

Or when they have to voice romance dialogue to fictional, nonexistant characters?

Do you even hear how immature your question sounds?

You do realize the voice actors aren't actually in the recording booth making out with the actors of the character love interest, don't you? Now that would awkward.

Christ.

Modifié par Hathur, 15 décembre 2010 - 04:30 .