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[Omega_Spectre]

I haven't seen this topic brought up anywhere, so I thought I'd start this thread about the subject. If it has been previously talked about here on the forums, forgive my oversight.

Ok, so I've played ME2 a LOT. Love the game, story, characters, and combat. But early on when I first beat ME2, I started wondering, in ME1 the Reapers can't get into the galaxy en masse because the Protheans altered the signal that the Keepers would normally respond to and activate the Citadel. And Shepard stopped Saren from giving Sovereign control of the station to activate it as well.

In ME2, if you spoke to Gianna Parasini on Illium, she mentions that people are suddenly interested in dark energy. And when you rescue Tali on Haestrom she tells you that Dholen is destabilizing because of dark energy, but that it shouldn't be.

After you spank the Collectors on their home turf and start to haul gluteus maximus out of there, Harbinger tells you that basically you still haven't stopped them and they will find another way. What if the Reapers are manipulating dark energy themselves to destabilize Dholen and use it as their "Plan B" to re-enter the galaxy?

It seems to me that the Reapers, having cleansed the galaxy countless times without breaking a sweat, became way overconfident of themselves and never imagined that one lowly organic being would step up to stop them. With their main route of entry blocked, the Reapers would now have to use a sun as some kind of portal instead of the Citadel.

Just my thoughts on the subject. If anyone else has any other plausible theories, feel free to contribute. And please, let's keep it civil.

[Googlesaurus]

How would they build a mass relay if they're not in the galaxy?

[Omega_Spectre]

@Googlesaurus: The Reapers most likely built the mass relays millions, possibly billions of years ago throughout the galaxy before the first time they ever left to hibernate beyond the galactic rim. They established the network for themselves, but they knew that organic spacefaring species would eventually rise, discover the network of relays and use them as well as settling on the station known as The Citadel. In doing this, the Reapers would be assured that when the time came for them to return, all would be as they had planned long ago.

[Googlesaurus]

Omega_Spectre wrote...

@Googlesaurus: The Reapers most likely built the mass relays millions, possibly billions of years ago throughout the galaxy before the first time they ever left to hibernate beyond the galactic rim. They established the network for themselves, but they knew that organic spacefaring species would eventually rise, discover the network of relays and use them as well as settling on the station known as The Citadel. In doing this, the Reapers would be assured that when the time came for them to return, all would be as they had planned long ago.

If they are destabilizing Dholen using dark energy eventually it will either become a brown dwarf, a supernova, a neutron star, or a black hole. How do these help the Reapers get into the galaxy?

Modifié par Googlesaurus, 15 décembre 2010 - 07:15 .

[Omega_Spectre]

Gnas wrote...

What if the use of the mass relays is impacting the proliferation of dark energy and the Reapers and the galaxy community are jeopardizing the galaxy as a whole?

That's an interesting theory, it hadn't crossed my mind before. Seems like a side effect from use of the relays that the galactic community is unaware of. 

[klossen4]

Omega_Spectre wrote...

Gnas wrote...

What if the use of the mass relays is impacting the proliferation of dark energy and the Reapers and the galaxy community are jeopardizing the galaxy as a whole?

That's an interesting theory, it hadn't crossed my mind before. Seems like a side effect from use of the relays that the galactic community is unaware of. 

that would be a twist never thought about it.

Modifié par klossen4, 15 décembre 2010 - 07:42 .

[Omega_Spectre]

Googlesaurus wrote...


If they are destabilizing Dholen using dark energy eventually it will either become a brown dwarf, a supernova, a neutron star, or a black hole. How do these help the Reapers get into the galaxy?

That is possible. It's also possible that Dholen could become some kind of wormhole for the Reapers to come through.

[klossen4]

Omega_Spectre wrote...

Googlesaurus wrote...


If they are destabilizing Dholen using dark energy eventually it will either become a brown dwarf, a supernova, a neutron star, or a black hole. How do these help the Reapers get into the galaxy?

That is possible. It's also possible that Dholen could become some kind of wormhole for the Reapers to come through.

well they did make a collector base center of the galaxy

[CroGamer002]

Isn't Heastrom a bit too far from Earth?

[Orion55]

Omega_Spectre wrote...

Gnas wrote...

What if the use of the mass relays is impacting the proliferation of dark energy and the Reapers and the galaxy community are jeopardizing the galaxy as a whole?

That's an interesting theory, it hadn't crossed my mind before. Seems like a side effect from use of the relays that the galactic community is unaware of. 

Talk about over thinking it. "Using mass relays pollutes the universe" What, is Shepherd supposed to ride his bike to work. This might be theoretically possible, but in the context of story, irrelevant.

[Malanek]

Could be, as good a guess as anyother I've seen proposed.

[Omega_Spectre]

Orion55 wrote...

Talk about over thinking it. "Using mass relays pollutes the universe" What, is Shepherd supposed to ride his bike to work. This might be theoretically possible, but in the context of story, irrelevant.

All we're doing is wondering how the Reapers will return to the galaxy. What's their plan? No one here is saying "This is 100% how it's going to happen..." Just thoughts on what we learned from ME2's story. No need to act like people's ideas aren't worth considering.

[Omega_Spectre]

Mesina2 wrote...

Isn't Heastrom a bit too far from Earth?

Yeah, Haestrom is pretty dang far from Earth. But the Reapers have spread through the galaxy countless times before. I don't think that matters to them. We know they can move pretty freakin' fast when they want.

[Alienmorph]

I think more that Dark Energy might be the secret weapon to use against reapers and not something direclty related to their activities. Each Reaper migh have a mass accelerator device in his body from what we know, or anyway have something less boundary that the relay's net to move trough space.

[Elcirith]

As I posted in the Mass Effect 3 VGA trailer forum,



My thoughts exactly. Also, this post got me thinking: http://social.biowar...470776#5471250. What if the continued use of the mass relays over millions and millions of years has resulted in the release of an exponentially huge amount of dark energy. Dark energy is the name given to the mysterious force that is driving galaxies apart and increasing the rate of expansion of the universe. The Big Rip theory claims that billions or even trillions of years from now, dark energy will be not only pushing galaxies apart, but also causing galaxies to disintegrate by forcing stars away from each other, and then it will start splitting up solar system eventually resulting in the splitting of fundamental particles. What if this excess amount of dark energy produced by mass relays is causing the galaxy to become unstable and Haestrom's sun is just the start. More stars could start becoming unstable due to dark energy in their cores and stars could start drifting apart.



This sounds like a complete longshot though. someone also pointed out that the mass relays in other areas of the galaxy should be used more often than those close to Haestrom which makes it weird that Haestrom is the one developing instability due to dark energy. The dark energy in Haestrom's core starts to sound very deliberate.



Also, could the Reapers have sacrificed one of their own in order to construct a mass relay in dark space in order to shoot themselves to earth?

[Orion55]

Im just pointing out that discussing the use of something and the potential effect it might have billions of years from now is too much.

[Elcirith]

Orion55 wrote...

Im just pointing out that discussing the use of something and the potential effect it might have billions of years from now is too much.

It might be, but I'm just throwing what I thought of out there 

[Orion55]

Elcirith wrote...
Also, could the Reapers have sacrificed one of their own in order to construct a mass relay in dark space in order to shoot themselves to earth?

You know Im surprised no one has considered the fact that in order for the Citadel relay to work, there would have to be a mass relay in dark space. Am I right on this one? If I am, then im sure the reapers can reprogram or whatever they need to do to the relay in order for it to connect to another, already active relay.

Modifié par Orion55, 15 décembre 2010 - 08:14 .

[Elcirith]

Orion55 wrote...

Elcirith wrote...
Also, could the Reapers have sacrificed one of their own in order to construct a mass relay in dark space in order to shoot themselves to earth?

You know Im surprised no one has considered the fact that in order for the Citadel relay to work, there would have to be a mass relay in dark space. Am I right on this one? If I am, then im sure the reapers reprogram or whatever they need to do to the relay in order for it to connect to another, already active relay.

I cant believe I did not think of that.