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[Jaulen]

Okay I posted my original question in the wrong place but here goes:



I'm looking for a system that I could buy out of box ...(my laptop needs to be declared dead and replaced.....but it's a work one, and it will be getting replaced, but I want to buy my own personal laptop for gaming)



Any suggestions?

[Pitrus]

Jaulen wrote...

Okay I posted my original question in the wrong place but here goes:

I'm looking for a system that I could buy out of box ...(my laptop needs to be declared dead and replaced.....but it's a work one, and it will be getting replaced, but I want to buy my own personal laptop for gaming)

Any suggestions?

Would help if you told us what you need it for (gaming is a rather broad concept) and how much you want it to cost.

[Pitrus]

Double post - my bad

Modifié par Pitrus, 06 janvier 2011 - 11:29 .

[Sleepee]

Doctor-Chalmers wrote...

How would a techy rate my system for DA2?

* 6 gig ram
* Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
* Nvidia GTX 470 
* 2.4Ghz Q6600 Intel 2 Quad Core processor

I know, I know.
You'd think I could look at the specs myself and compare them to my specs for myself..

But computer specs are devious things.
My computer can play Alien Vs Predator on maximum settings at 70 fps, but I'm having to put the Witcher on medium settings to keep things fairly consistent and even then it'll chug along at 40 fps. It can play Empire Total War battles on maximum settings, large resolution, with a sweet frame rate, but it dies when it tries to play Black Ops. It can play Mass Effect 2 at 60 fps on the highest settings, but'll only get 40 fps on BioShock 2. It'll play Bad Company 2 at 60 fps the lowest settings (and 50 fps on Bad Company 2 at the medium or highest level settings - which makes no sense to me).

My point is, computer specifications never seem to work out how I'd expect them too. After buying two sub-par performing games (New Vegas and Black Ops), I don't trust logic to answer how well a PC came can be expected to play on my comp.

Everything looks good except that your stock Q6600 is holding you back. Try looking up some guides on overclocking, and bring it up to 3ghz or so. Also, how are you running your RAM sticks? Is it a 2x2GB + 2x1GB kit, or do you have 2x2GB with an extra 2GB stick thrown into the mix? If it's the latter, then your memory is giving you problems, and you'd be wise to pull out that extra stick.

[Too Few Names]

My lack of technical knowledge is killing me. I have a bad feeling that the graphics card won't cut it.



Intel Core 2 Duo Processor P8600(2.40GHz,1066MHz,3MB)

4096MB (2x2048) 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel 1 S

256 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330

Windows 7 64bit



Does anyone think otherwise?

[Jaulen]

@Pitrus



Hmm...gaming, mainly things like DA games.

Other tasks? Photo editing, website design...that's about it.



Any other tasks like CAD I would do on my work computer.



And since I really don't know costs....

[Gorath Alpha]

Too Few Names wrote...

My lack of technical knowledge is killing me. I have a bad feeling that the graphics card won't cut it.

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor P8600(2.40GHz,1066MHz,3MB)
4096MB (2x2048) 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel 1 S
256 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330
Windows 7 64bit

Does anyone think otherwise?

You are correct.  That one compares very poorly with the Radeon minimum.  Sorry. 

[Too Few Names]

Ah, joy. At least I can stop the wishful thinking now.

[BioWare lover]

guys i have a old Nvidia Geforce 9400gt 512mb.i can run ME2 and DAO quite smothly on high settings.i just need to know can i run DA2 on this card.i don't care about graphics just need to know if my card will run this game on low settings.beside my processor is core 2 duo 2.93ghz and 4 gb ram.plz guys need to know about this.

[Gorath Alpha]

BioWare lover wrote...

guys i have a old Nvidia Geforce 9400gt 512mb.i can run ME2 and DAO quite smothly on high settings.i just need to know can i run DA2 on this card.i don't care about graphics just need to know if my card will run this game on low settings.beside my processor is core 2 duo 2.93ghz and 4 gb ram.plz guys need to know about this.

Past experience with Bioware and their "officially published" system requirements has been shaky, at best.  There was a gap between the currently named Radeon and Geforce, that I've presently chosen to close by unofficially assuming that the 7900 GS is comparatively accurate, so that instead of a Radeon HD 2600 Pro, they should have named the 2600 XT, or X 1800 GTO. 

Comparing a 9400 GT to a 7900 GS, it trails behind at only 30% of the memory bandwidth, 61% of the Pixel Fill Rate, and only 48% of the Texture Fill Rate.  That's a lot of slowness to deal with.  Admittedly, the 7900 GS was limping along with no Shader Processors at all, while the 9400 GT has 16 of those. 

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

The Radeon HD 2600 Pro has 120 Shader Proessors, but otherwise, it's closer to a match for the 9400 GT than either one is for the 7900 GS:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php. 

What's the big deal about holding onto such a (relatively) old and slow graphics card?  Is that a laptop?  The 9400 is now approaching four years old (based on a design a year older than that), and all the use it could give has all been wrung from it already 

You can get a two year old card that will blow it so far into the weeds that it's not even funny, for maybe $55 - $60 (the Radeon HD 4670 with GDDR3 RAM), from Amazon or Newegg. 

Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 janvier 2011 - 09:18 .

[bcooper56]

wow wtf game looks like ps2 game and you need a dx11 card



lol

[Cenk777]

Hello there



I am considering to buy (signiture edition) DA2 but I dont know if my notebook will still do it. I am no pro in these things, so i thought I should ask here in the forums.



my Notebook: geforce 9600m GT 512MB----Intel Core Duo P7350----Memory 4GB



all this was enough to play DA:O at highest res./ everything turned on (even AA 2x).



will it still be enough to play DA2 or ist this the end of a loyal Bioware Game Gamer?

thanks....

[PSUHammer]

bcooper56 wrote...

wow wtf game looks like ps2 game and you need a dx11 card

lol

You don't need a DX11 card.  Just need one if you want to take advantage of DX11 features.  And, those have yet to be determined for this game.

[Gorath Alpha]

Cenk777 wrote...

Hello there

I am considering to buy (signiture edition) DA2 but I dont know if my notebook will still do it. I am no pro in these things, so i thought I should ask here in the forums.

my Notebook: geforce 9600m GT 512MB----Intel Core Duo P7350----Memory 4GB

all this was enough to play DA:O at highest res./ everything turned on (even AA 2x).

will it still be enough to play DA2 or ist this the end of a loyal Bioware Game Gamer?
thanks....

I've been leaving the Intel products on the table quite awhile, and going with AMD instead.  The identity of a "P7350" means nothing to me without looking it up somewhere. 

The Mobile 9600 M GT was nothing special that I can recall (while the desktop 9600 GT was quite good when it was still new back in '07).  Nevertheless, it's essentially the same game engine, so the requirements aren't super-steep.  If I was looking your card up at NotebookCheck.Net, I am fairly sure it would pass muster -- maybe nothing spectacularly good, but above minimum somewhat. 

(Added in Edit later) P. S. Don't take this as a personal criticism, but hardware obsolescence is a fact of life, and has been, since computers became electronic instead of knobs on strings (abacus). 

The Geforce 9n00 series, for the most part, was just a re-run of the 8n00 cards, so approaching five years old.  That's forever in PC terms, and the fact you're still able to use it today is more because of the slowness of console producers to replace their old models than anything else.  Have you developed some emotional attachment to the thing?  It has long since finished giving value back for its purchase, and is overdue for replacement. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 janvier 2011 - 09:16 .

[Alzack_PewPew]

I probably should of posted this here.



I am not sure if my new laptop can take this game. I saw the specs but wasn't sure if they were good enough to run this game. If anyone could let me know that would be great,. I've never played a game on a PC before so I wasn't sure.



Dell XPS 15



-- 640 GB SATA II Hard Drive (7200 RPM)

-- 15.6" FHD (1080p) B+RGLED Display



-- 4 GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)

-- NVIDIA GeForce GT 420M 1GB graphics with Optimus

-- Processor: Intel Core i5-560M (2.66GHz Turbo Boost 3.33Ghz Dual Core/4 Threads 3MB L3 cache)

-- 15.6" FHD (1080p) B+RGLED Display



Also is a mouse necessary to play it well? I have this preordered for the PS3 but not sure if I want to switch

[Gorath Alpha]

I would go with your original choice, not because of the mouse, which you could add with little trouble, but because the video graphics in it is not as good as the PS3's graphics.

[Selene Moonsong]

I expect mine will work relatively well, given the 6 year old Pentium D processor. I will most likely switch my OS to to the 64-bit version if necessary, but I will be replacing my system somewhere around June or so. My current system (see specs below) runs NWN 2 and DA: Origins flawlessly, which is why I suspect that it will work well enough for now, or at least until I get my new system later this year.

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Type: Pentium D (2 CPUs)Processor Speed: 3.0 Ghz
Operating System / Service Pack: Windows 7 Ultimate (32)
System RAM: 4 GB
Video Card Manufacturer: EVGA
Video Card Model: GeForce 9800 GTX+
Video Card RAM: 512 megs
Video Card Driver Version: 258.96 
Sound Card Manufacturer: RealtekSound
Card Model: Realtek HD
CD/ROM Type: DVD/CD RW Lite-On IHAP422 (1of2)
CD/ROM Type: DVD/CD RW Lite-On IHAP422 (2of2)
Hard Drive Type: SATA @ 7200 RPM
Monitor: SynchMaster 2233 (21.5" Wide Screen)Display Default Resolution: 1920*1080
Power Supply: Corsair 650Watt, 12 Volt Rail AMPS = 52.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 07 janvier 2011 - 10:57 .

[Alzack_PewPew]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

I would go with your original choice, not because of the mouse, which you could add with little trouble, but because the video graphics in it is not as good as the PS3's graphics.

Thank you. I only cosidered the PC b/c I kept hearing that  there were no issues with it when it came to stats like the Dex thing and the pause thing looked useful.

[BioWare lover]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

BioWare lover wrote...

guys i have a old Nvidia Geforce 9400gt 512mb.i can run ME2 and DAO quite smothly on high settings.i just need to know can i run DA2 on this card.i don't care about graphics just need to know if my card will run this game on low settings.beside my processor is core 2 duo 2.93ghz and 4 gb ram.plz guys need to know about this.

Past experience with Bioware and their "officially published" system requirements has been shaky, at best.  There was a gap between the currently named Radeon and Geforce, that I've presently chosen to close by unofficially assuming that the 7900 GS is comparatively accurate, so that instead of a Radeon HD 2600 Pro, they should have named the 2600 XT, or X 1800 GTO. 

Comparing a 9400 GT to a 7900 GS, it trails behind at only 30% of the memory bandwidth, 61% of the Pixel Fill Rate, and only 48% of the Texture Fill Rate.  That's a lot of slowness to deal with.  Admittedly, the 7900 GS was limping along with no Shader Processors at all, while the 9400 GT has 16 of those. 

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

The Radeon HD 2600 Pro has 120 Shader Proessors, but otherwise, it's closer to a match for the 9400 GT than either one is for the 7900 GS:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php. 

What's the big deal about holding onto such a (relatively) old and slow graphics card?  Is that a laptop?  The 9400 is now approaching four years old (based on a design a year older than that), and all the use it could give has all been wrung from it already 

You can get a two year old card that will blow it so far into the weeds that it's not even funny, for maybe $55 - $60 (the Radeon HD 4670 with GDDR3 RAM), from Amazon or Newegg. 

Gorath

ty bro.i think i will buy a something more advance if i wanna play this game.i was saving some money for one good pc(i7 specially:P)with gaming best card so i don't wanna spent a penny on this junk:? lol.so i was only hopping to at least run it.one of my friend who has played origin has asked that i can run it on very low graphics.just want to confirm it. 

[Pitrus]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

I expect mine will work relatively well, given the 6 year old Pentium D processor. I will most likely switch my OS to to the 64-bit version if necessary, but I will be replacing my system somewhere around June or so. My current system (see specs below) runs NWN 2 and DA: Origins flawlessly, which is why I suspect that it will work well enough for now, or at least until I get my new system later this year.

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Type: Pentium D (2 CPUs)Processor Speed: 3.0 Ghz
Operating System / Service Pack: Windows 7 Ultimate (32)
System RAM: 4 GB
Video Card Manufacturer: EVGA
Video Card Model: GeForce 9800 GTX+
Video Card RAM: 512 megs
Video Card Driver Version: 258.96 
Sound Card Manufacturer: RealtekSound
Card Model: Realtek HD
CD/ROM Type: DVD/CD RW Lite-On IHAP422 (1of2)
CD/ROM Type: DVD/CD RW Lite-On IHAP422 (2of2)
Hard Drive Type: SATA @ 7200 RPM
Monitor: SynchMaster 2233 (21.5" Wide Screen)Display Default Resolution: 1920*1080
Power Supply: Corsair 650Watt, 12 Volt Rail AMPS = 52.

It's been a while since I had to compare a Pentium D to a Core 2 Duo, but if I remember correctly those 3 GHz barely compare to a Core 2 duo at 1.8 GHz. 

However, by that logic you shouldn't be able to run DA:O flawlessly (I assume that it means 1920x1080 at high graphics), meaning I'm probably not the best person to ask. Just figured you may want to check it out to be sure.

[Gorath Alpha]

I suppose that I didn't back up through enough of the thread's oldest comments to see if Selene's (moderator) question was covered, when I made that summary coverage reply.  There is very little substantive change in what they are claiming from DA0 to DA2 with regard to requirements, save for eliminating the Small Textures option for SM-3(, and the Radeon X800, X850, and any 128 MB cards that otherwise might have worked (Geforce 6800 Vanilla, Geforce 6600 GT). 

The Radeon minimum named is not in parallel with the Geforce minimum, so that either one or the other is wrong, and I chose the HD 2600 XT as the correct Radeon (or the X1800 GTO), not the 2600 Pro, because I considered the X1800 GTO to have been more appropriate for a previous minimum than the older Radeons had been. 

Just about anything that wasn't already at the borderline, really struggling with DAO, should be fine, if the announced requirements do turn out to be relatively accurate. 

Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 08 janvier 2011 - 06:32 .

[tankianowns]

My PC is running a Intel Core i7-740QM 1.73 GHz CPU. It's Turbo Boost goes up to 3 GHz and I can run DAO perfectly, but I'm still worried because it's normal speed is lower than the minmum requirements (I'm new to PC gamiming, this PC was a present). Think I'll be able to run DA2?

[Lord_Saulot]

tankianowns wrote...

My PC is running a Intel Core i7-740QM 1.73 GHz CPU. It's Turbo Boost goes up to 3 GHz and I can run DAO perfectly, but I'm still worried because it's normal speed is lower than the minmum requirements (I'm new to PC gamiming, this PC was a present). Think I'll be able to run DA2?

That should be more than good enough.  Very good as far as mobile processors go.

[tankianowns]

Cool, thanks. I am not very knowledgeable on hardware, but my PC gets full 1920x1080 and looks loads better than my Box. Now to pre-order DAII....