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[Realranger55]

Deadmac wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
Recommended:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz Processor or equivalent
CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 Triple core 2.8 GHz or equivalent
RAM: 2GB (4 GB Vista and Windows 7)
Video: ATI 3850 512 MB or greater
Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater
DirectX 11: ATI 5850 or greater
DirectX 11: NVIDIA 460 or greater

These system requirements are based upon a lie. After my experience with the first game, (crashes and other technical issues), I can 100% assure you that BioWare has no clue about system requirements. Nor, do they know how to make a game in which uses sound technological resources.

Sure, BioWare makes a great story, but they simply do not understand what it takes to run their latest games. Unless there is a DRASTIC change, I will not buy another game from BioWare.

I just bought a big rig from BestBuy, and "Dragon Age: Origins" can't run on a 2.9 GHz (8 Core) system efficiently. It crashed the computer down. It happened on two different systems.

BioWare has no clue.

I don't care if others disagree with me. I am a damn consumer, and I am one pissed off BioWare fan. I have a right to call them out on bullshnite.

Sounds like hardware\\compatibility issues. I understand you are frustrated but to decide that bioware doesn't know what they are doing based on this is kinda silly. I'd like you to point out a single game that has ever been developped that ran flawlessly on every configuration out there. It's pc gaming, sometimes games don't like our specific settings. If you can't handle that, I hear she runs alright on all the xbox's and ps3's out there.

[Wompoo]

@ Deadmac what other games are you playing? sorry I have no idea what type of computers Best Buy sell aussie Have you tried the vanilla game with out patching first ? then update till you find out what DLC or patch may be causing the problem, if at all. No idea outside of that, good luck

[Deadmac]

Wompoo wrote...

@ Deadmac what other games are you playing? sorry I have no idea what type of computers Best Buy sell aussie Have you tried the vanilla game with out patching first ? then update till you find out what DLC or patch may be causing the problem, if at all. No idea outside of that, good luck

First, I have only Adobe Creatice Suite 5 Design Premium installed. Second, "Dragon Age: Ultimate" comes with path 1.04 automatically installed. Third, thanks.

[Moondoggie]

xActionJesusx wrote...


I have a nVidia GT 240. Not GTX, GT.

You'll be fine with that one. Just no DX11 but as you said it;s not a big deal to you.

[Ginggis Khan]

Speaking of game length and worries over the 7GB Hard Drive requirement. There is no such thing as "they've used better compressor this time". I can explain what it is. When game is very popular devs work very quick to create a sequel in most cases sequel is being worked on already as original game releases.



This same happened with "Force Unleashed 2". It was very short and got many people disappointed. It felt like some expansion. So don't keep your hopes too high. Game will be short for sure and it will be more limited in choices than its predecessor DAO.



Sorry for giving you bad news. Its only my opinion of course, but I am certain about what I said.

[Lord_Saulot]

Ginggis Khan wrote...

Speaking of game length and worries over the 7GB Hard Drive requirement. There is no such thing as "they've used better compressor this time". I can explain what it is. When game is very popular devs work very quick to create a sequel in most cases sequel is being worked on already as original game releases.

This same happened with "Force Unleashed 2". It was very short and got many people disappointed. It felt like some expansion. So don't keep your hopes too high. Game will be short for sure and it will be more limited in choices than its predecessor DAO.

Sorry for giving you bad news. Its only my opinion of course, but I am certain about what I said.

Do you know more about the game's development than the Bioware employee who commented on having better compression?  

[xActionJesusx]

Moondoggie wrote...

xActionJesusx wrote...


I have a nVidia GT 240. Not GTX, GT.

You'll be fine with that one. Just no DX11 but as you said it;s not a big deal to you.

Thank you!

[Lord_Saulot]

Deadmac wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

Wompoo wrote...

IMO your power supply seems to be just pushing the boarder line of adequate (then again I have never been a fan of just meeting the lowest system requirement for power... especially when you start adding up all the components), is it new or an old one and what brand. What motherboard are you using, on board sound or dedicated sound card. I have 1 and 1 issue only with DA:O crashing and that is when I use the AOE cleansing spell (is it?) against mages, consequently stopped using it, zero issues. Have you tried to update all your drivers (not just the video card) and Bios... the CDs that come with a new system or components, always seem to have dated drivers. Lastly are all the components of the system, win7 compliant or are you using some legacy. Also your cpu is 4 core but has 8 threads.

I agree. That's pretty low wattage.

My computer has exterior red lights that run along the edges. According to the folks over at AMD, the graphics card only uses 86 watts. I am trying to find a means to shutdown the lights, so I can free up some power for other hardware. Since the computer is under a warrante through Best Buy and Gateway, I may have a problem with opening the case. Recommended system requirement for the graphics card is 450 Watt psu. I bought a 2-year warrante from Best Buy. If anything serious goes wrong, they will give me a new computer.

I agree; 450W is the recommended power supply I have seen for the Radeon 5750.  The only thing I can think of is that that hyperthreaded quadcore i7 might take up a lot of power itself.  But your processor, memory, and graphics card should be more than enough to run this game.  I can run it smoothly and stable on weaker hardware.  I might have missed this earlier, but do you know what model power supply and motherboard you have?  I don't know if it will be easy to tell without opening your computer, and I understand that you have to be careful because of your warranty, so if you can't provide that information without risking your warranty, than don't worry about it.

In any case, have you posted on the DA:O PC Tech Support forum?  There are some very knowledgable players there who might be able to provide some insight.

Modifié par Lord_Saulot, 30 janvier 2011 - 03:25 .

[Deadmac]

Lord_Saulot wrote...
I agree; 450W is the recommended power supply I have seen for the Radeon 5750.  The only thing I can think of is that that hyperthreaded quadcore i7 might take up a lot of power itself.  But your processor, memory, and graphics card should be more than enough to run this game.  I can run it smoothly and stable on weaker hardware.  I might have missed this earlier, but do you know what model power supply and motherboard you have?  I don't know if it will be easy to tell without opening your computer, and I understand that you have to be careful because of your warranty, so if you can't provide that information without risking your warranty, than don't worry about it.

In any case, have you posted on the DA:O PC Tech Support forum?  There are some very knowledgable players there who might be able to provide some insight.

Before I get to your question, I just want to thank everyone for helping out. If this turns out to be a power supply unit issue, preventing me from playing the games, I will have to apologize to everyone for my earlier rant. Its all about trying to understand "Dragon Age II's" system requirements, and trying to also make sense of what is in my new system. Hopefully it is as easy as just switching out one component.

Unfortunately I do not have that information. I will have to do some research. Something more positive to report... Unlike my previous Gateway FX system, I now have tons of space between the motherboard components and the psu. Therefore, I will be able to switch out the psu without touching the processor cooling system and other cards. When I tried to upgrade my older system, the psu and cooling fan were practically touching. I was forced to remove the fan, so I can install the psu. It all ended up badly. Now, I can switch it out without a hitch.

FYI - I went back and fixed the word 'warranty' in my original post. Lol... I am very tired.

Modifié par Deadmac, 30 janvier 2011 - 03:40 .

[Doofus42]

Deadmac -



What Bioware has talked about is the minimum/recommended hardware and Operating Systems requirements to run Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age II. There are may be issues in the software loaded on your system that could be causing problems.



Most OEM systems that come with a pre-loaded OS, also have a ton of bloatware, crapwarp, and other worthless **** software installed. All those free ISP, word mangling, etc. can cause problems. I have installed and ran DAO on three different systems that I have reloaded the Windows 7 x64 from scratch without too many problems. The game is playable for me. I do have an occasional crash to the desktop. I do not believe that the DAO 1.04 is perfect, but it can be played on the PC!



This is the procedure I used to reload the OS and install other software on my systems:



1. Reload Windows 7 from the Win7 DVD. This is a complete reload that formats the C: disk.

2. Install the Intel chipset drivers downloaded from the Intel support site. I assume that since you have an i7-870 that you have an P55/H55 Intel chipset.

3. Install any needed MotherBoard specific hardware drivers, such as network, USB, SATA, etc.

4. Install the ATI Radeon/nVidia Geforce driver and latest patches.

5. Install the sound card drivers.

6. Update DirectX. Go to http://downloads.microsoft.com and search for dxwebsetup.exe. This will update your DirectX 9/10/11 to the lateset and greatest.

7. Install the latest Microsoft C++ 2005 for both x86 and x64. I havwe versions 8.0.59193 (x86) and 8.05.59192 (x64) installed. These may also be found at http://downloads.microsoft.com. Make sure your get the version with the ATL security patch installed.

8. Install nVidia PhysX if needed.

9. Install DAO and all Patches.



I have run DAO on three systems based on the following CPUs: Q6600, QX6800, and I7-950. All of these systems have had nVidia video cards installled. 8800GT, GTS250, GTX260, GTX470, and GTX570. I have not used any ATI Radeaon cards.



If I may comment on the Bioware recommendations for DA2. These seem to be very reasonable. Using DX11 will require a good DX11 based card. If I was to pontificate, I would say that the recommended DX11 cards are the minimum cards needed to run DA2 in DX11 mode. But this and $5 will get you a coffee at StarBucks, mainly the $5.

[Lord_Saulot]

Deadmac wrote...

Lord_Saulot wrote...
I agree; 450W is the recommended power supply I have seen for the Radeon 5750.  The only thing I can think of is that that hyperthreaded quadcore i7 might take up a lot of power itself.  But your processor, memory, and graphics card should be more than enough to run this game.  I can run it smoothly and stable on weaker hardware.  I might have missed this earlier, but do you know what model power supply and motherboard you have?  I don't know if it will be easy to tell without opening your computer, and I understand that you have to be careful because of your warranty, so if you can't provide that information without risking your warranty, than don't worry about it.

In any case, have you posted on the DA:O PC Tech Support forum?  There are some very knowledgable players there who might be able to provide some insight.

Before I get to your question, I just want to thank everyone for helping out. If this turns out to be a power supply unit issue, preventing me from playing the games, I will have to apologize to everyone for my earlier rant. Its all about trying to understand "Dragon Age II's" system requirements, and trying to also make sense of what is in my new system. Hopefully it is as easy as just switching out one component.

Unfortunately I do not have that information. I will have to do some research. Something more positive to report... Unlike my previous Gateway FX system, I now have tons of space between the motherboard components and the psu. Therefore, I will be able to switch out the psu without touching the processor cooling system and other cards. When I tried to upgrade my older system, the psu and cooling fan were practically touching. I was forced to remove the fan, so I can install the psu. It all ended up badly. Now, I can switch it out without a hitch.

FYI - I went back and fixed the word 'warranty' in my original post. Lol... I am very tired.

I'm glad your system is easier to upgrade than your previous one, and I hope that this works out for you and you can play both DAO and DA2.  I think most of us here are happy to do our best to help in cases like this - it sucks when you can't play a game that your hardware should be able to play, and I really hope that whatever your computer's issue is, it can be solved.

[Deganis76]

Ginggis Khan wrote...

Speaking of game length and worries over the 7GB Hard Drive requirement. There is no such thing as "they've used better compressor this time". I can explain what it is. When game is very popular devs work very quick to create a sequel in most cases sequel is being worked on already as original game releases.

This same happened with "Force Unleashed 2". It was very short and got many people disappointed. It felt like some expansion. So don't keep your hopes too high. Game will be short for sure and it will be more limited in choices than its predecessor DAO.

Sorry for giving you bad news. Its only my opinion of course, but I am certain about what I said.

Let's look at Bioware's track record for sequels:  Baldur's Gate 2 was larger and longer than Baldur's Gate 1.  Mass Effect 2 was similar in length and scope to Mass Effect 1.  My opinion is Dragon Age 2 will follow suit.  Bioware has yet to disappoint me.

[Ruccard]

Can my HP G62-347NR laptop run DA2?

[xActionJesusx]

Ruccard wrote...

Can my HP G62-347NR laptop run DA2?

List your computer's specs or read the system requirements for DA2 at the start of the post.

[Narelda]

A mobility radeon 4250 in that laptop is probably not enough to run the game properly. It might run with minimum settings and small resolution but overall 4250 is not ment for gaming.

[FurousJoe]

Realistically a lot of laptops will be left in the dust because of QuadCore processor requirements...



I do have i7 940xm in my laptop, but that's far far from the norm.

[PSUHammer]

Deadmac wrote...

I thought about that myself. After doing some phone calls to AMD and Gateway, both companies agree that the 450 MHz psu would be fine. Second, its a brand new computer straight from the store Best Buy. 

As to the first quote...regardless of what the manufacturer says, your rig is pushing the limits on that PSU.  For the second quote, I am not sure what you mean, but most PC's are sold with drivers outdate, right out of the gate.

Your rigs technical specs should make a mockery of DAO in terms of frame rates.  I could run at 1980x1200 with full graphic settings on DAO with lesser specs.  A couple of preliminary steps you can take:

• Get rid of all the extra crap software that is preloaded on store bought computers...just keep what you use.
• Update Windows with all relevant updates.  This includes latest drivers for motherboard, video, sound, DirectX, etc.
• ensure your system has proper temperatures.  Is the case too hot?  Is the CPU overheating?  GPU?
• My experience with store bought PCs from Dell, Gateway, HP, etc. is that they use cheaper components for their systems (motherboards, RAM, PSU, etc.) as most people don't know the difference.  The fact that they only included a bare minimum PSU (450 wt) in a gaming rig is a hint of that.

If, after all of these things, you are still having issues, I would post in the Tech support section of this forum.

[PSUHammer]

FurousJoe wrote...

Realistically a lot of laptops will be left in the dust because of QuadCore processor requirements...

I do have i7 940xm in my laptop, but that's far far from the norm.

Wow...that's a hell of a laptop!  

Unfortunately, laptops just do not lend well to gaming at the highest settings unless you own one of the higher end rigs.  The vary nature of not being able to upgrade the GPU and CPU tend to limit them after a short while.

[kirkonacid]

If you're buying a gamaing rig, ASUS is the way to go, unless of course you can afford Alienware.

[Pitrus]

Hammer6767 wrote...

  I could run at 1980x1200 with full graphic settings on DAO with lesser specs.

What kind of monitor are you using?

[MingWolf]

Hammer6767 wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

I thought about that myself. After doing some phone calls to AMD and Gateway, both companies agree that the 450 MHz psu would be fine. Second, its a brand new computer straight from the store Best Buy. 

As to the first quote...regardless of what the manufacturer says, your rig is pushing the limits on that PSU.  For the second quote, I am not sure what you mean, but most PC's are sold with drivers outdate, right out of the gate.

ATI tends to overstate their PSU requirements (which are actually recommendations than requirements).  If 450W PSU is stated in the box, chances are, you'd be okay unless there are the machine is carrying multiple hard drives, disc drives, and components.

A way to check if your pushing the limits is to touch the case on your PSU after a few minutes of gaming.  It should be warm to the touch.  If it is uncomfortably hot, then the PSU is the culprit.  Another way to check if your PSU is holding you back is to try stress testing the video card on various graphics-intensive games to see if any crashes occur (since its normally the vid card that eats up the most power).  Games like Crysis, I think, might work. 

PS: don't stress test too much if crashing does occur.  And updating drivers is always a good start as well.

Modifié par MingWolf, 30 janvier 2011 - 05:16 .

[PSUHammer]

crusadeonacid wrote...

If you're buying a gamaing rig, ASUS is the way to go, unless of course you can afford Alienware.

Actually...building your own is the way to go!  
That way you can ensure all the components in your system are quality.

[kirkonacid]

Hammer6767 wrote...

crusadeonacid wrote...

If you're buying a gamaing rig, ASUS is the way to go, unless of course you can afford Alienware.

Actually...building your own is the way to go!  
That way you can ensure all the components in your system are quality.

That's probablly true, but for those of us who wouldn't even know where start, I'll stick with ASUS.

[PSUHammer]

Pitrus wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

  I could run at 1980x1200 with full graphic settings on DAO with lesser specs.

What kind of monitor are you using?

I have a Dell 24" WFP2408 monitor.  It has an 8bit color panel and is the best I have ever owned.  Upgraded from a 19" 1280x1024 Samsung LCD.  No comparison.  I am not a big fan of Dell PCs but they sure make good monitors.
http://dell.to/IzJEU

Modifié par Hammer6767, 30 janvier 2011 - 05:15 .

[PSUHammer]

crusadeonacid wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

crusadeonacid wrote...

If you're buying a gamaing rig, ASUS is the way to go, unless of course you can afford Alienware.

Actually...building your own is the way to go!  
That way you can ensure all the components in your system are quality.

That's probablly true, but for those of us who wouldn't even know where start, I'll stick with ASUS.

That being said...I have used ASUS motherboards for years in my PC's.  I haven't used anything else from them, though.