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[Biotic_Warlock]

DA2 only 7GB hard drive?
The ultimate DAO edition i read on amazon as 20GB.

[bztang]

Ryzaki wrote...

Lord_Saulot wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The only thing I'm iffy on is the processor. I have a 1.73GHZ i7.

That should be near recommend right?

I hope.

What is the Turbo speed on that thing?

Around 2.3~2.5

I don't like using Turbo though because I never see any actual increase other than one or two FPS.

1.73GHz i7's are similar to 2.4 GHz c2q, plus the processor should be the least of your worries when trying to run games. You should be fine with any Core 2 duo/quad, i-series or AMD phenom. However, your video card obsviously matters more in this case, so make sure it meets at least the minimum.

I have an i7 720QM (1.6GHz) with ATI 5730 and ran DA:O/ME2 maxed @1366*768 and the DA2 demo without a problem (We will see how DA2 retail with DX11 runs). I even ran the Crysis 2 demo pretty decently.

i7 820QM (1.73GHz) <= i7 740QM (1.73GHz) <= Core 2 Quad 6600 (2.4GHz)
http://www.notebookc...or.31146.0.html
http://www.notebookc...or.23034.0.html

[bztang]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

DA2 only 7GB hard drive?
The ultimate DAO edition i read on amazon as 20GB.

My pre-load download from Impulse was only 5GB

[bztang]

Trigger-happy Dark Eco Freak wrote...

Hi, my computetr has an intel i5 750 quad core cpu @2.67Hz, 4GB ram,a nvidia geforce gt 320 and 64-bit windows 7. I like to run my games at 1920x1080, how do you think it will run? My main concern is the gt 320, i've heard good and bad things about it. Thanks in advance:)

Processor is fine, but running at 1080p, you will likely need a faster video card to run at max settings, or expect slow downs, or compromise by either lowering AA, shadows, or resolution to 1600*900 or maybe even 1366*768. 

http://www.videocard...=GeForce GT 320

[bztang]

2doorg wrote...

Here's my machine.

Asus N61J. i7 Q720 @1.60 GHz (boosts to 2.8), 4.0GB RAM, ATI HD 5730 with 1 GB VRAM (DDR3)

Played DA:O and DA:A on high settings, no problem.

What do you think?

I have the same machine, since we can run DA:O, ME2 and DA2 demo all on high no problem @ 1366*768, I'm going to say that we're just going to be fine in DX9. However, if we run it with DX11, there will be a negative performance impact of about 30% going from DX9 to DX11, if it performs like other DX11 titles.

DX9 to DX11 decrease in performance:
Dirt 2 has a ~ 33% decrease
http://www.pcgamesha...sults/Practice/

Aliens vs Predator has a ~ 31% decrease
http://www.pcgamesha...rison/Practice/

Lost Planet 2 has a ~ 31% decrease
http://techgage.com/...2_dx9_vs_dx11/2

[bztang]

saixme wrote...

Could someone look into my system specs too, please? I'm worried whether my graphic card will be able to handle a DirectX 11 game. I played demo on high settings, and it ran smoothly (except cutscenes, but I guess everyone experienced that stuttering).

OS: Windows 7 x86
CPU: AMD Turion X2 RM-70 @2,1 GHz
RAM: 3 Gb DDR2
Video: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (512Mb)

Your processor is sluggish by today's standards, however you are within 10% passmark performance of the Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8Ghz), so it shouldn't affect performance much. Optimistically, a 3-5% decrease in framerate will be all you see.
http://www.cpubenchm...re Mobile RM-70
Now your video card, the radeon 3650M is class 3 card according to notebook check and should be able to handle DA2 fine at least on medium at 1366*768. Since you said you can run the demo on high, then you likely will be fine, as long as you're not trying to run it in 1080p. (By stuttering, I had none, but there was a loading pause when transitioning from CGI cutscenes to in-game engine scenes which is what I think you meant). Don't worry about the game being DX11 compliant because your card isn't, so you will run DA2 in DX9 mode.
http://www.notebookc...650.8839.0.html

[bztang]

Just FYI, from looking at recommended specifications and performance requirements of previous Bioware games, I'd wager that the recommended hardware is for running DA2 at max or near max in DX11 at 1920x1080, without any hitches or noticeable slow-downs. I believe that being able to run the DA2 demo at your preferred DX9 settings will be a fair evaluation of what settings are optimal for an individual machine.However as basdoorn mentioned:

basdoorn wrote...

Besides what Gorath points out about not everyone being able to download a 2GB demo, also not that the demo is far from a full game. We have seen only a very limited area complexity in each of the demo segments, with highly similar terrain and even number of different characters until the game needs to load again. I would be cautious to assume the full game will not have significantly more textures and models to load into memory for certain areas of the game, which can make it run really slow in comparison to the demo.

In Dragon Age : Origins almost nobody was having trouble with combat along the road, but Orzammar commons and Denerim marketplace were another story entirely. I do hope we will get some environments like that in DA2, despite the performance disadvantages such places bring.

So, I would recommend running the DA2 demo, and downloading fraps:
http://www.fraps.com/download.php
Then tweaking the settings until you get about 40FPS average (minus cutscenes) so that even a large area such as Ozrimmar will not cause a visible issue, by anticipating a 50% drop in performance in those large and resource demanding areas. I say 40FPS because most non-FPS games are still fully playable at around 20FPS (50% drop).

Modifié par bztang, 05 mars 2011 - 10:59 .

[VienxInq23]

What is the texture pack about and how would someone get it for the PC ?

[bztang]

VienxInq23 wrote...

What is the texture pack about and how would someone get it for the PC ?

http://social.biowar...46703/1#6348413

[basdoorn]

bztang wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...
DA2 only 7GB hard drive?
The ultimate DAO edition i read on amazon as 20GB.

My pre-load download from Impulse was only 5GB

By using ogg as codec for voices and a new compression scheme for terrain and models they were able to shrink the size down considerably, without hurting quality. Be happy with this, especially when you have an SSD drive. In that case, the
20-7=13GB you save easily equates to about 20-30$ worth of disk space

Modifié par basdoorn, 06 mars 2011 - 12:07 .

[basdoorn]

bztang wrote...
Just FYI, from looking at recommended specifications and performance requirements of previous Bioware games, I'd wager that the recommended hardware is for running DA2 at max or near max in DX11 at 1920x1080, without any hitches or noticeable slow-downs.

I do like your input on other posts, but please do not get your hopes up too high as far as this goes. The recommended specifications list the following video cards:

Video: ATI 3850 512 MB or greater
Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater

Neiter of them support DirectX 11 mode. You will in fact need the GTX 460/HD 5850 or faster to run and fully appreciate DirectX 11 mode with very high quality according to Bioware. As far as I have understood you also will only be able to enable DirectX 11 mode in combination with very high quality. Perhaps this is why the requirements are so steep in comparison to DirectX 9 mode with high quality.

For my part, I expect that with the recommended ATI 3850 512MB card you will be able to run DirectX 9 medium/high quality without AA and AF at 1920x1080 with a bit of slowdown in some areas of the game, but still very much playable overall. Would be nice if you were closer to the truth though, lets hope

[bztang]

basdoorn wrote...

bztang wrote...
Just FYI, from looking at recommended specifications and performance requirements of previous Bioware games, I'd wager that the recommended hardware is for running DA2 at max or near max in DX11 at 1920x1080, without any hitches or noticeable slow-downs.

I do like your input on other posts, but please do not get your hopes up too high as far as this goes. The recommended specifications list the following video cards:

Video: ATI 3850 512 MB or greater
Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater

Neiter of them support DirectX 11 mode. You will in fact need the GTX 460/HD 5850 or faster to run and fully appreciate DirectX 11 mode with very high quality according to Bioware. As far as I have understood you also will only be able to enable DirectX 11 mode in combination with very high quality. Perhaps this is why the requirements are so steep in comparison to DirectX 9 mode with high quality.

For my part, I expect that with the recommended ATI 3850 512MB card you will be able to run DirectX 9 medium/high quality without AA and AF at 1920x1080 with a bit of slowdown in some areas of the game, but still very much playable overall. Would be nice if you were closer to the truth though, lets hope

Ah yes, my mistake. I was looking at the DX11 recommended specs:
 DirectX 11: ATI 5850 or greater
 DirectX 11: NVIDIA 460 or greater

Modifié par bztang, 06 mars 2011 - 12:47 .

[bztang]

basdoorn wrote...

bztang wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...
DA2 only 7GB hard drive?
The ultimate DAO edition i read on amazon as 20GB.

My pre-load download from Impulse was only 5GB

By using ogg as codec for voices and a new compression scheme for terrain and models they were able to shrink the size down considerably, without hurting quality. Be happy with this, especially when you have an SSD drive. In that case, the
20-7=13GB you save easily equates to about 20-30$ worth of disk space

Indeed, I actually just found the post from CP about the ogg compression
http://social.biowar...73672/4#5479280

[Sleepee]

Any word on how the 267.54 Beta drivers from Nvidia stack up against the demo?

[Belhawk]

sleepee, it isn't 267.54, that is 266.54
the newest betas are 267.24 & 267.31, not much difference between the 2, but they add support/tweeks for da2. as far as the demo goes, didn't notice much difference other than dx11 ran better.

[Sleepee]

Ah, kay. Sorry. Must have misread the number while breezing over the Beta drivers page.

[ArmaVirumqueCano]

 Not a pc expert.  Any feedback on my specs appreciated.

Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.26GHz
4 GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 9800 1 GB 
1900 x 1200 resolution

Will lowering the resloution affect framerate/stutter?  I can get it for 360, but would really prefer pc...

[Childofbaahl]

I'm running:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @ 3.0Ghz
4GB Ram
Vista x64
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 @ 768Mb

All recommended but the processor... shouldn't too much of a problem right?

[Childofbaahl]

Double post...sorry:)

Modifié par Childofbaahl, 06 mars 2011 - 11:22 .

[Moondoggie]

ArmaVirumqueCano wrote...

 Not a pc expert.  Any feedback on my specs appreciated.

Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.26GHz
4 GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 9800 1 GB 
1900 x 1200 resolution

Will lowering the resloution affect framerate/stutter?  I can get it for 360, but would really prefer pc...

it'll perform decent in DX9 mode and probably DX10 mode too (i'm sure this mode will be in the full game)

To answer your question yes lowering resolution will higher the framerate but theres a balance if you go too low the game will just look ugly.

[basdoorn]

ArmaVirumqueCano wrote...
Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.26GHz
Nvidia Geforce 9800 1 GB 

Childofbaahl wrote...
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @ 3.0Ghz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 @ 768Mb

Recommended specifictions
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz Processor or equivalent 
CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 Triple core 2.8 GHz or equivalent
Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater

You are both below recommended specifications as far as your CPU goes and in the first case not even that far above the minimum CPU requirement of a 1.8 GHz dual core. Your video card is above recommended however. With such a combination you should find that graphic settings have little impact on framerates and smoothness until a certain quality. Low, medium and maybe even high quality should give similar smoothness for example, as you will be limited in performance by your CPU. Try looking at it this way and you should be able to find the best image quality that your video card can offer. When you find that sweet spot where the CPU can't take any more, you can check if your video card still allows AA and especially AF to be enabled without a visible performance hit. Those techniques only impact your video card, so if it still has some headroom when the CPU is full up, AA and AF might still be able to give you a further image quality boost for free. With the CPU as the weaker part, you might even notice a visible difference in performance between a sound card with hardware acceleration like a Creative X-Fi Titanium or comparable model and an onboard sound chip with drivers that do sound processing on the CPU.
In short, even though the game might not run smoothly in all areas on even the very lowest graphic setting and resolution due to your CPU, you should be able to enjoy a decent image quality thanks to your video card.

Modifié par basdoorn, 07 mars 2011 - 10:51 .

[Childofbaahl]

Did some testing in the Demo with Fraps and got it on High in DX11 with AAx4 and AFx8 - Didn't notice much of a difference in quality during largish fights. Might have to lower it for town scenes wheres there's more people...

[james1976]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

DA2 only 7GB hard drive?
The ultimate DAO edition i read on amazon as 20GB.

They are using a new compression method and that is why it  requires less drive space.

[thrashmental]

How do you think my computer will do with this game on very high settings with all the bells and whistles?

AMD Phenom II x4 965 3.4 ghz
8gb ram
Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 1536mb (Gigabyte specs)
1680x1050 resolution
Windows 7 ultimate

I mean I would prefer an answer from someone in north america who's played the game with similar specs...

Modifié par thrashmental, 07 mars 2011 - 05:39 .