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So the specs were posted just a while back and it says that only 7GB of hardrive space is needed for DA2. I was under the impression most games normally required 10-20GB. I know it's posted under the minimum requirements part but how long is DA2 supposed to be?

I've heard around 20-30 hours but with only 7GB required, I'm a bit skeptical.....but not so much anymore Posted Image

Priestly wrote...

Ok, to alleviate your worries (I know it won't in those who want to see something negative, but I'll try) here is why it is 7GB instead of a higher number. 3 main points.

1 - We used a different compression scheme in DA II than DAO (something called "ogg" I am told).
2 - 2 less fully VOed langauages
3 - Optimized mesh data, physics and lighting (which I am told reduces the footprint of environments by close to 75%)

I know some will still doom and gloom, but the game is 7GB because we are better at making games. So, now that you have some reasons why the game is 7GB I hope this will calm some of you down.



:devil:



Here are the rest of the PC specs btw.

Recommended:
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz Processor or equivalent
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 Triple core 2.8 GHz or equivalent
    RAM: 2GB (4 GB Vista and Windows 7)
    Video: ATI 3850 512 MB or greater
    Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater
    DirectX 11: ATI 5850 or greater
    DirectX 11: NVIDIA 460 or greater

Minimum:
    OS: Windows XP 32-bit with SP3
    OS: Windows Vista 32-bit with SP2
    OS: Windows 7 64-bit
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
    RAM: 1 GB (1.5 GB Vista and Windows 7)
    Video: Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 MB
    Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS 256 MB cards
    Disc Drive: DVD ROM drive required
    Hard Drive: 7 GB
    Sound: Direct X 9.0c Compatible Sound Card Windows Experience Index: 4.5

Modifié par Underoath, 16 décembre 2010 - 04:57 .


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slimgrin

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Oblivion - 8.5 gb

SC2 - 12 gb

TW1 - 8.5 gb

FO3 - 6 gb

Ego Draconis - 9 gb

^Just for reference. All of the above are big games. On the other hand, GTA4 required well over 20 gb, and for what I don't know. I don't think we can say it will be a short game based on this info.

Modifié par slimgrin, 16 décembre 2010 - 01:56 .


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DA:O was almost 11GB, and quite a few people hit over 60-80 hours in that game... so 7GB sounds about right.



But I don't know enough about software too know if GB are a good way to tell gamelength. I doubt it...

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Yep this has me worried a little to be honest. I really hope this was a typo and would love a Dev to put my mind at rest and clear up the matter.

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slimgrin wrote...

Oblivion - 8.5 gb

SC2 - 12 gb

TW1 - 8.5 gb

FO3 - 6 gb

Ego Draconis - 9 gb

^Just for reference. All of the above are big games. On the other hand, GTA4 required well over 20 gb, and for what I don't know. I don't think we can say it will be a short game based on this info.


several, if not all, are silent protagonist, and older games with lesser graphics.

Edit; my copy of The Witcher is 18.5 gb.  It is the enhanced version.  DAO is 20GB.

Modifié par ejoslin, 16 décembre 2010 - 01:58 .


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I'm a bit of a sucker, so I switched from xbox to PC when the ultimate edition came out.

That one has all the DLC, along with Awakenings, coming in at about 23gb.



I doubt DA:O was that much bigger than 7GB if we cut the origin stories, and all references to the origin-stories.



Then we have a voice for the PC, though, in DA2, which will add a bit.



I'm on the fence. On consideration, I suppose DA:O was larger than 7GB - but you see, who knows?

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On one hand, I don't know how much you can really read into the length of the game, as who knows what kind of compression is going on. But compared to ME2 (15GB Hard drive space required) or Origins (20GB hard drive space) or Awakening (4GB required), plus the player VO, that has me seriously wondering how short this game will be, or just how much or how little content is in it.

It has me wondering about the textures and such too, as they haven't looked great from screens and such a small install size doesn't exactly have me thinking they'll be all that high res.

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I'm pretty sure ME2 was like 11-13GB, but I could be wrong. It's also possible that the 7GB is with the resolution at minimum.

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Yeah my DAO is 18gigs, that's with Stone prisoner and WK though I believe. It's been said by devs that DA2 is a much smaller game though, so the game size isn't surprising. I was expecting larger than that with the voiced PC though, truth be told.

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Brockololly wrote...

On one hand, I don't know how much you can really read into the length of the game, as who knows what kind of compression is going on. But compared to ME2 (15GB Hard drive space required) or Origins (20GB hard drive space) or Awakening (4GB required), plus the player VO, that has me seriously wondering how short this game will be, or just how much or how little content is in it.
It has me wondering about the textures and such too, as they haven't looked great from screens and such a small install size doesn't exactly have me thinking they'll be all that high res.


TW2 has great graphics, and it's an 8 gb load. They've also said it will be as long as the first one, although I take that with a grain of salt.

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Where did you find the system specs for DA2?

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Well, we know it's going to be shorter than DAO. I'm hoping it's longer than DAA.



I don't know much about computers, so the HD reqs may mean less to me than most people, but wouldn't things like the voiced PC, and improved graphics (to the extent they ARE improved from DAO - they seem sharper, anyway) normally require extra space?

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Couldn't it also mean the game is optimized well?

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Atakuma wrote...

Where did you find the system specs for DA2?


Actually, good question.  I haven't seen the specs posted anywhere as of yet.

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TJPags wrote...

Well, we know it's going to be shorter than DAO. I'm hoping it's longer than DAA.

I don't know much about computers, so the HD reqs may mean less to me than most people, but wouldn't things like the voiced PC, and improved graphics (to the extent they ARE improved from DAO - they seem sharper, anyway) normally require extra space?


Usually yes. Which is causing the confusion on my part.

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relhart wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Where did you find the system specs for DA2?


Actually, good question.  I haven't seen the specs posted anywhere as of yet.


Here

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relhart wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Where did you find the system specs for DA2?


Actually, good question.  I haven't seen the specs posted anywhere as of yet.


Priestly posted them in teh DA2 announcements forum here. Probably should be here too:

Recommended:
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz Processor or equivalent
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 Triple core 2.8 GHz or equivalent
    RAM: 2GB (4 GB Vista and Windows 7)
    Video: ATI 3850 512 MB or greater
    Video: NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 MB or greater
    DirectX 11: ATI 5850 or greater
    DirectX 11: NVIDIA 460 or greater

Minimum:
    OS: Windows XP 32-bit with SP3
    OS: Windows Vista 32-bit with SP2
    OS: Windows 7 64-bit
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
    RAM: 1 GB (1.5 GB Vista and Windows 7)
    Video: Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 MB
    Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS 256 MB cards
    Disc Drive: DVD ROM drive required
    Hard Drive: 7 GB
    Sound: Direct X 9.0c Compatible Sound Card Windows Experience Index: 4.5

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Ah, good to see DX 11 up there at least.

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TJPags wrote...

Well, we know it's going to be shorter than DAO. I'm hoping it's longer than DAA.

I don't know much about computers, so the HD reqs may mean less to me than most people, but wouldn't things like the voiced PC, and improved graphics (to the extent they ARE improved from DAO - they seem sharper, anyway) normally require extra space?


Yeah, the audio files usually take up a good deal of space. And higher res textures generally take up a good deal of space. Maybe BioWare has some John Carmack level techinical wizardry going on, but comparing the massive Origins install size of around 20GB to DA2's of only 7GB is kind of puzzling.

We know its going to be shorter, but only 3GB more in content than Awakening? Again, maybe it does mean its well optimized and such, which would be great, but still, it seems odd compared to Origins.

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so it will have DX11 support? sweet

Modifié par Atakuma, 16 décembre 2010 - 02:18 .


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I was hoping for a loner play through but I guess this will have to do

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Brockololly wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Well, we know it's going to be shorter than DAO. I'm hoping it's longer than DAA.

I don't know much about computers, so the HD reqs may mean less to me than most people, but wouldn't things like the voiced PC, and improved graphics (to the extent they ARE improved from DAO - they seem sharper, anyway) normally require extra space?


Yeah, the audio files usually take up a good deal of space. And higher res textures generally take up a good deal of space. Maybe BioWare has some John Carmack level techinical wizardry going on, but comparing the massive Origins install size of around 20GB to DA2's of only 7GB is kind of puzzling.

We know its going to be shorter, but only 3GB more in content than Awakening? Again, maybe it does mean its well optimized and such, which would be great, but still, it seems odd compared to Origins.


That's what I thought.  Well, we know it's going to be shorter.  I remember a discussion about length in another thread, and putting aside crazy short or long times, I seem to remember DAO averaged about 70 hrs for most players, and that DAA averaged about 20.

I'm betting a 35-40 hour game.  Which, personally, seems a little short to me.

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Can someone post the specs for ME1 and 2 (especially the GB requirement) so we can compare?

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Brockololly wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Well, we know it's going to be shorter than DAO. I'm hoping it's longer than DAA.

I don't know much about computers, so the HD reqs may mean less to me than most people, but wouldn't things like the voiced PC, and improved graphics (to the extent they ARE improved from DAO - they seem sharper, anyway) normally require extra space?


Yeah, the audio files usually take up a good deal of space. And higher res textures generally take up a good deal of space. Maybe BioWare has some John Carmack level techinical wizardry going on, but comparing the massive Origins install size of around 20GB to DA2's of only 7GB is kind of puzzling.

We know its going to be shorter, but only 3GB more in content than Awakening? Again, maybe it does mean its well optimized and such, which would be great, but still, it seems odd compared to Origins.


Like Brockololly said, it could be some awesome optimizing.......I think it's more weird than anything to tell the truth. It's gotta be a decent length though despite it being around half of DA:O's length.

Modifié par Underoath, 16 décembre 2010 - 02:25 .


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ME2 was about 15Gigs, if I'm remembering correctly.