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[StingingVelvet]

Wow, recommending quads already are we? Sheesh. I need an i7.



Anyway...



The install size means nothing. Oblivion is like 200 hours long if you do everything and it came on one DVD. I hope DA2 is 30 hours for the main story and up to 60 hours if you do everything, that's the sweet spot for RPGs for me.

[Beaner28]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

 What does "2 less fully VOed langauages" mean?

It means that in DA II we did not record VO in Hungarian or Czech.

Why do you hate the Hungarians and the Czechs?

Modifié par Beaner28, 17 décembre 2010 - 04:00 .

[Ziggeh]

Beaner28 wrote...
Why do you hate the Hungarians and the Czechs?

They make all business decisions based on love and hate, because doing so accrues them points to spend on abilities. God damn dichotomy systems.

[Revan312]

StingingVelvet wrote...

Wow, recommending quads already are we? Sheesh. I need an i7.

Just wait for the 8 core AMD Bulldozers.. It'll be worth it..  Especially when considering bang for buck, Intel is a thief in a versace suit imo.

[Papa Emeritus IV]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

 What does "2 less fully VOed langauages" mean?

It means that in DA II we did not record VO in Hungarian or Czech.

THANK GOD!

Ahem. I'm sorry. As a Hungarian I find this the best news ever.

[White_Buffalo94]

Wishpig wrote...

DA:O was almost 11GB, and quite a few people hit over 60-80 hours in that game... so 7GB sounds about right.

But I don't know enough about software too know if GB are a good way to tell gamelength. I doubt it...

With every piece of DLC plus Origins, I racked up 73 hours. This includes Stone Prisoner, WK, RtO, Lelianas Song, Awakening, GoA, and Witch Hunt. I'd probably pull together 75 hours with DC, but I can't stand killing my old companions. So it is a pretty extensive game.

[White_Buffalo94]

I read somewhere that it is shorter than Origins and longer than Awakening. Considering I pulled about 20 hours together in Awakenings in one save (before my old console was fried) Hopefully it lasts about 30-40 hours, which is about Origins length if you basically run through it without exploring, such as I did my first playthrough. I hope the shorter playthroughs of DA2 is worth the awesomeness

[White_Buffalo94]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

So, either DA2 has worse graphics and texture than ME1 and 2 (so much for new cinematic feel), has less voice acting and dialogue (....), is just shorter (ME2 took me about 30-40 and I was taking my time). Or a combination of all three.

Did I get it right?

You have to take it into account that Bioware has said they are even better at making the games, so the memory and data can be compacted. So I'll guess it will be my hopeful minimum of 30-40 hours

[astreqwerty]

After reading through some posts i made the big decision to cancel my pre order(just done it)..(given i love dao thats indeed a sacrifice)...all the reasons pristley listed are not enough to explain 7 gigs plus add to that the fact that dev time is roughly 1.5 years and there you have a hell of a small rpg.And rpgs where never small games...

plus have you noticed they avoid to answer questions related to the games length??coincidence?i dont think so...

[astreqwerty]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Short main campaign, followed by nickel-and-dime DLC?

gamers biggest fear....

[Survivalist]

What is currently the best/most accurate estimation of game length (one play, through doing most of the quests)?

In comparison to: ME 1 and 2 and DA:O and Fallout 3/NV to give me a bit of an idea.

It would be nice if one of the devs could give some sort of reply on the actual length, eg "it is similar to DA:O".

Although the simply fact that they read the forums is a good sign, anyone had a look at the noobisoft forums recently? http://forums.ubi.co...rm/f/1991064316 <- how not to run a company

[DPB]

astreqwerty wrote...

After reading through some posts i made the big decision to cancel my pre order(just done it)..(given i love dao thats indeed a sacrifice)...all the reasons pristley listed are not enough to explain 7 gigs plus add to that the fact that dev time is roughly 1.5 years and there you have a hell of a small rpg.And rpgs where never small games...

Disk space doesn't necessarily correlate with the length of a game. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed takes up 24gb, but the game is only 8 hours long. Risen uses just 2gb but took me 45 hours to complete. Oblivion could last over a hundred hours, but it needs less than 5gb of space. In other words, there's not much of conclusion you can draw from this.

plus have you noticed they avoid to answer questions related to the games length??coincidence?i dont think so...

They did this before DAO was released too. It means nothing.

[IRMcGhee]

Survivalist wrote...
What is currently the best/most accurate estimation of game length (one play, through doing most of the quests)?
In comparison to: ME 1 and 2 and DA:O and Fallout 3/NV to give me a bit of an idea.
y

They've said it's about the same length as ME2, which doesn't really mean much considering it takes me anywhere from 20-60 hours to finish it.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

They said somewhere that it is longer than Awakening but shorter than DA:O.

[Shiratori]

IRMcGhee wrote...

They've said it's about the same length as ME2, which doesn't really mean much considering it takes me anywhere from 20-60 hours to finish it.

Pretty much this.  Game length is also what you make of it.  Not only with what you decide to do in it but how well you know the game to do it.  You can do the game "faster" and still do more than one of your slower runs because you can just play it better.  Also, maybe you discovered something "new" in the game and decide to take your time to read the new codex or listen to the conversations more.  And honestly, there are some things that probably would be improved by having a shorter game time (it's mentioned a lot, but getting through all of Orzammar / Deep Roads at times felt like a lot of repetitious running around that really wasn't serving to add to the game play.  That artificially inflates the game time).

If the game has depth and interest and is fun to play, a slightly shorter average game time (and I didn't feel like my game time in ME2 was lacking) means I more time to replay it (and given how many different import options I have, I have lots of replay scenarios).

[Jaulen]

Hanz54321 wrote...

Hawksblud wrote...

I'm always thrown by this. Maybe it's because, growing up, my parents never/ have never bought me video games, always claiming them a 'waste of time'... if I got a game, you can be damn sure that I argued for it for months, or bought it with my own money and played it mostly covertly. Thankfully, my family has gotten better about this... but I'm still the sort to hold my games in very high regard. I only buy it if I really want it.. and am willing to be amused by it for a very long time.. but I see how it would be easy not to have that regard if spending money on video games was less.. stigmatized? For me, I still have to control the knee-jerk waste-of-time-and-money reaction, and so I'd better /love/ it.

My parents were the same way.  Still are even though I'm an adult.  My father is hilarious.  "I just don't see how you can sit in front of that computer and waste time."  As an adult I respond, "Yeah, well I have no idea how you can walk on the grass, hit a ball, then walk some more for hours either.  But you do it twice a week 18 holes and I don't see you accomplishing anything."

Makes him so mad.  I keep telling him if he doesn't want to throw a clot he should quit throwing the first stone.

Whoa! Are you me? Because I have had this SAME convo with my dad.

[Jaulen]

But on to the topic...I'm hoping for DA2 to be around 30 hours long just for the main quest.....(I know nothing about system specs of GB sizes so. I won't touch that...)....mainly because the storyline is supposed to span 10 friggin' years.



The cryptic comment that DA2 is between DAO and DAA in length means about 0 to me since I haven't done Awakenings yet. (wanted to wait for the patch). But my first rushed playthrough on the PS3 for DAO took me 56 hours to complete....and that was without doing much of any

sidequests....heck I think my first character completed the game at level 17.



And i have to agree with some others, I'll take a shorter game if the storytelling is great, the companions are entertaining, and the quests I'm sent on are meaningful and not some dungeon slagging just to pass time/get experience.



okay, now I'm worrying myself.....if it's a short game that spans that much time...what are we going to be doing, time-warp to this event play it out, Varric and Cassandra cut scene, now skip to this event and play it out.....q cutscene....now on to final onslaught....

[Tiax Rules All]

Jaulen wrote...
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okay, now I'm worrying myself.....if it's a short game that spans that much time...what are we going to be doing, time-warp to this event play it out, Varric and Cassandra cut scene, now skip to this event and play it out.....q cutscene....now on to final onslaught....

Thats a common fear.

[Jaulen]

@Tiax....now I'm even more worried.



*sigh* Not really interested in the whole idea of a narrated linear chose-your-own-adventure style game.....



But we'll see, I keep vacillating between being really excited and feeling impending doom.

[Pedonecrophile]

LEAVE THE DEVS ALONE!

New Vegas is 6.7 Gb.
Medieval 2 Total war 11.7 (with all addons)
Lineage II ~9
Ogg is damn good choice, my folder of Guilty Feat XX soundtrack got almost 2 hours of music in ogg, that fit in only 35 Mb.
Starcraft II soundrack - four hours in 280 Mb.

Modifié par Pedonecrophile, 05 janvier 2011 - 11:17 .

[Snoteye]

Jaulen wrote...

okay, now I'm worrying myself.....if it's a short game that spans that much time...what are we going to be doing, time-warp to this event play it out, Varric and Cassandra cut scene, now skip to this event and play it out.....q cutscene....now on to final onslaught....

We are told that much of the tedium has been cut out. Crafting, for instance, now requires you only to find a source of any given ingredient, not a specific amount. I will gladly lose 20 hours of game time if those 20 hours were meant for planet scanning. I don't think there is cause to worry.

[Trintrin86]

Yanno, I have my controller in hand, replaying DA:O right now, and I can tell you that I would take a shorter game in a heartbeat if it meant cutting out the repetitive monstrosity that is the Deep Roads.



I love long games that feel like there is a ton of content, but I would rather have have a shorter, well crafted game than something that just feels long and drawn out.

[Maniac600]

StingingVelvet wrote...

The install size means nothing. Oblivion is like 200 hours long if you do everything and it came on one DVD. I hope DA2 is 30 hours for the main story and up to 60 hours if you do everything, that's the sweet spot for RPGs for me.

This.
 
It's ok if the main story isn't too long (I am a Fable fan after all), as long as there are other things to do, e.g. sidequests, exploring anything...

Oh, and as long as the story is good. But, we all know it's Bioware. I'm not concerned about the quality of the story so much as I am the freedom and choices I am able to make in-game.

[Faust1979]

20-30 hours is good enough for me. If they say 60 hours for the main storyline I'll probably have the game beat around 30-35. 60 hours to play a game seems a bit excessive.