hey, im about to begin a new playthrough of DA:O in preparation of DA2 and i have a character type that i have always wanted to play, but never managed to get around to it. i would appreciate any thoughts/opinions/ideas you guys have on improving the design.
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basically, he is a human male noble who has always felt that he deserved the terynir of highever more than his brother (maybe even his father) because he was an excellent warrior and ready to make the tough decisions. what little he has heard and experienced of cailan leads him to believe that he is unfit to rule ferelden. basically, he sees joining the grey wardens as an opportunity to attain political power and destroying the archdemon as eliminating a major threat to his rule.
a list of major decisions (sorry if i forgot any)
redcliffe: saves the village, recruits all possible civilians, refuses to resort to blood magic and won't risk connor destroying redcliffe so he kills connor-there is no use ruling over a land that is barren and lifeless
circle of magi: mages are dangerous (he hates blood magic) and a threat to any around him so he allows the annulment of the circle.
urn of sacred ashes: does not spoil them as there is no point and he could always use them later, kills genitivi to keep the secret as he wants them to himself and anything that gives the chantry authority is a threat to him (needless superstition fuels rebellions).
orzammar: sides with bhelen as he wants to increase trade with the surface (more money, woot woot!) and he respects bhelen's do what must be done attitude, creates golem army because they are servile and powerful, gets dagna into the circle (this weakens the chantry in terms of lyrium and pits the chantry and orrzammar against each other which is good because while i respect bhelen i dont trust him), do not set up a chnatry in orzammar because it does not need further influence
dalish: slay the werewolves, need for zathrain's vengeance strikes a chord in him and werewolves are too unstable and wild to trust with the protection of ferelden.
landsmeet: marry anora and become king (prince consort, but whatever), keep loghain alive for his command experience assuming he can be executed later if he tries anything, execute alistair as he has a legitimate claim to the throne that threatens my rule
dark ritual: refuse as i never trusted morrigan and allow loghain to die, he can be a martyr and hero so long as i hold the power
boon: wealth and power of course.
sorry for the massive wall of text, but what do you guys think of the concept? does it make sense practically? what suggestions would you offer?
Power-Hungry Noble Playthrough? Looking for Constructive Criticism
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Posté 16 décembre 2010 - 07:53
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It all totally makes sense for what you would like to do. He sounds like kind of a d-bag though. Haha.
For sidequests, I'd reccomend turning in the Mage's Collective to the Templars and siding with Taoran against his father when completing the Blackstone Irregular's quest because you could use a powerful military force on your side.
For sidequests, I'd reccomend turning in the Mage's Collective to the Templars and siding with Taoran against his father when completing the Blackstone Irregular's quest because you could use a powerful military force on your side.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 02:29
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Heehee, agreed. But they're fun to play too. Potential to give him quite a burning hatred/resentment of mages perhaps, if you annul the circle and would rather kill connor than use magic? Perhaps he loves the Templars and kinda wanted to be one (secondary to being King of the galaxy, of course).
If not, he'd probably actually get on very well with Morrigan. Sounds like they'd speak a similar language. Not that he'd TRUST her, of course, but I can see him understanding her respect for power. Also sounds like he's destined to be bitter enemies with Alistair. Might be fun to push that - ****** him off as much as you can. See what fun dialogues pop up.
If not, he'd probably actually get on very well with Morrigan. Sounds like they'd speak a similar language. Not that he'd TRUST her, of course, but I can see him understanding her respect for power. Also sounds like he's destined to be bitter enemies with Alistair. Might be fun to push that - ****** him off as much as you can. See what fun dialogues pop up.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 02:35
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all great ideas. thanks for the suggestions. definitely a dbag, but ive never really been able to play as one before. hopefully by giving my character believable motivation, i'll be able to do terrible things that im usually too horrified to do in a videogame
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 04:49
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Hehe, yeah, proper motivation makes those kind of playthroughs fun...for Chloe it was the fact she NEVER had power that it kinda went to her head. (City elf with a chip on her shoulder).
I was thinking the same thing about your character and Morrigan getting along, though. As long as he wasn't all into leashing mages, they'd definitely be on the same page.
Your character would kill Zevran, I'd assume...wouldn't take any chances on a loose end he has no real reason to trust cutting his bid for power short (?) And what about Leliana? He doesn't seem to encourage Chantry-loving, lol.
I was thinking the same thing about your character and Morrigan getting along, though. As long as he wasn't all into leashing mages, they'd definitely be on the same page.
Your character would kill Zevran, I'd assume...wouldn't take any chances on a loose end he has no real reason to trust cutting his bid for power short (?) And what about Leliana? He doesn't seem to encourage Chantry-loving, lol.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 05:44
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yes zevran must die. i like his character but it never really made sense for any warden to keep him alive imo. he did just try to kill you after all, but this will be the first time in many playthroughs that i've killed him. as for morrigan and leliana, i am debating which one to make a LI. the fact that morrigan is a mage who in all other ways agrees with me would be an interesting romance. as for leliana i think it would be equally fun corrupting her. not sure on this one. its the biggest question i have left. my hope is that in the course of playing, it will happen naturally as the character progresses.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 07:20
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OMG, I'm not sure I'd like to meet your character in a dark Denerim Back Alley XD, sounds like fun however.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:01
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Good luck getting past the HN Origin knowing that the best in your family lies dead, and that you aspire to be more like Uncle Howe....
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:36
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This sums up my thoughts exactly. lolElhanan wrote...
Good luck getting past the HN Origin knowing that the best in your family lies dead, and that you aspire to be more like Uncle Howe....
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:16
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Also I suggest you sell the elven slaves and keep up that opportunity, so that you can gain influence / profit later in your rule. Very well thought-out character what you have there!! Make sure you keep leliana as a mistress, too. Anora looks like she is rubbish in bed 
Oh, also, you will need to kill Wynne. Thats what my bad character found the hardest thing to do... are you sure youre prepared to do that? for some reason killing a nice, helpful, HEALING old lady seems a bit tough to me.
Oh, also, you will need to kill Wynne. Thats what my bad character found the hardest thing to do... are you sure youre prepared to do that? for some reason killing a nice, helpful, HEALING old lady seems a bit tough to me.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 01:42
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He'd take loghain with him (to the final battle), and if Loghain doesn't offer he'd force him to take the final blow (being power hungry).
what about the crows? ignore their request to become their private assassin also would he even want Morrigan in his party, travelling around with him...
I think he'd see Bodahn Feddic as a Liability, not wanting to have to make sure this silly merchant isn't getting into trouble, and then there's shale will you get shale or leave her, and if you get her what happens when she goes off at you for killing Caradin? kill her? or sensing an opportunity and manipulate her into thinking your a great person.
what about the crows? ignore their request to become their private assassin also would he even want Morrigan in his party, travelling around with him...
I think he'd see Bodahn Feddic as a Liability, not wanting to have to make sure this silly merchant isn't getting into trouble, and then there's shale will you get shale or leave her, and if you get her what happens when she goes off at you for killing Caradin? kill her? or sensing an opportunity and manipulate her into thinking your a great person.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 06:07
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the lack of a healer is troubling but i plan on keeping morrigan around and you get her early enough to turn her into an effective-enough healer. he'll recognize that morrigan may be a necessary evil to have around and as for bodahn and sandal, enchantment and items are too valuable; he just wouldn't waste time or energy saving them if the camp was attacked. as for my characters relation with his family and howe, he does love his family he just believes they are not as capable as he is of ruling. when it comes to howe, the kindred spirit the two share (i deserved more) coupled with the intense hatred he will feel towards the man who butchered his family (and robbed him of a place of authority) will cause an interesting vibe.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 06:10
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[quote]Erika T wrote...
Also I suggest you sell the elven slaves and keep up that opportunity, so that you can gain influence / profit later in your rule. Very well thought-out character what you have there!! Make sure you keep leliana as a mistress, too. Anora looks like she is rubbish in bed
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In terms of Leliana, i know you can make her a mistress, but how? do you just have to romance her, harden her, marry anora, and then bring it up in the final dialogue with leliana?
Also I suggest you sell the elven slaves and keep up that opportunity, so that you can gain influence / profit later in your rule. Very well thought-out character what you have there!! Make sure you keep leliana as a mistress, too. Anora looks like she is rubbish in bed
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In terms of Leliana, i know you can make her a mistress, but how? do you just have to romance her, harden her, marry anora, and then bring it up in the final dialogue with leliana?
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 06:46
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In my current game I killed Wynn as Moerigan convinced my character that the circle deserved to die.
Moerigan made a fine healer It just meant that I had her go spirit healer instead of blood mage like I had originally intended.
Moerigan made a fine healer It just meant that I had her go spirit healer instead of blood mage like I had originally intended.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:23
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Brozan wrote...
In my current game I killed Wynn as Moerigan convinced my character that the circle deserved to die.
Moerigan made a fine healer It just meant that I had her go spirit healer instead of blood mage like I had originally intended.
That leaves me with another problem...if i refuse to do the DR, then i will have exactly zero healers in my party to face the archdemon which would, in fact, be the definition of suck. i guess i could have about a thousand health poultices, but that gets to the point of being impractical. very very impractical.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 03:20
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I used to worry about that, until I did my all-warrior playthrough. No mages and no rogues, but still the game was a cakewalk (on Normal). In fact some areas were positively easier.
You do get through the old health pots, it's true, but if you've been using a mage for most of the game you should have a nice little cache stored up by the time of the final fight. Seriously, forty lesser pots, twenty normal and the odd greater should be LOADS even if you're careless with them - and that amount is easy to achieve. All your characters are damn powerful by this point anyway.
Aside from when you have a character you literally can't deselect, I don't think there are any levels or areas were a certain character/class is NECESSARY. Certain ones do make certain levels easier, it's true, but don't let that overrule your RP decisions. Your character will comes to blows with Wynne, and he almost certainly doesn't seem the type to grant power to Morrigan via the dark ritual either.
You do get through the old health pots, it's true, but if you've been using a mage for most of the game you should have a nice little cache stored up by the time of the final fight. Seriously, forty lesser pots, twenty normal and the odd greater should be LOADS even if you're careless with them - and that amount is easy to achieve. All your characters are damn powerful by this point anyway.
Aside from when you have a character you literally can't deselect, I don't think there are any levels or areas were a certain character/class is NECESSARY. Certain ones do make certain levels easier, it's true, but don't let that overrule your RP decisions. Your character will comes to blows with Wynne, and he almost certainly doesn't seem the type to grant power to Morrigan via the dark ritual either.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 08:10
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This is almost exactly waht I've done with my current pc! It's been a blast. The biggest differences are that Wynne stayed with the group and was 'available' for Archie battle and I choose to side with the wolves assuming they wuoldn't be a permanent fixture in the forest.
