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[mellifera]

jenaisa wrote...

omg, 1005! Spreading our Fenris love gonna rule the world *muahahahaha*

I've gone through a ton of pages @_@ I hope I haven't missed something important!

And this!:

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From where is it? *_____________* 
I want to know what's going on ><
Thoughts?

Fenris is the new Oghren.

[Ms .45]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

I know that it's just a game, but that sort of thing [All characters being bi] breaks imersion for me, it cheapens the story AND the characters.  One of the best things about the fantasy genre is how it adds certain fantastic elements to real world situations and interactions, and making those interactions anything less than what I would expect from real life affects the experience of the story in a negative way for me. 

Don't forget that we're metagaming here. The characters won't all be bisexual in YOUR game. So, I can play as F!Hawke and romance Merrill, and have absolutely no-one else be bi (except Isabela, and she's just, well, Isabela).

In other words, maybe you should stay out of the forums so you don't know this sort of stuff - because knowing it is what breaks your immersion.

[Ms .45]

Ryzaki wrote...

Given that it's Dragon Age, Hawke is 'The Champion', and the story is a "legend", surprisingly high. One is a plot element, the other a statistic. Sure, all of them being bisexual COULD be a plot element, but it seems like a real stretch to me. I don't think making that comparison is feasible at this point.

So it's believeable in a fantasy for you to run into people who are astonishingly unique...but not for you to run into 4 bisexuals?

I definitely know at least 4 bisexuals. I equally DON"T know any legendary warriors, competent archers, lyrium infused elves (although a significant proportion of my friends have tattoos), or lady pirates (unless you mean the downloading variety).

And I reiterate my earlier plea to STOP METAGAMING!

[tankgirly]

This might sounds very silly. What's Metagaming?

[mellifera]

Ms .45 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Given that it's Dragon Age, Hawke is 'The Champion', and the story is a "legend", surprisingly high. One is a plot element, the other a statistic. Sure, all of them being bisexual COULD be a plot element, but it seems like a real stretch to me. I don't think making that comparison is feasible at this point.

So it's believeable in a fantasy for you to run into people who are astonishingly unique...but not for you to run into 4 bisexuals?

I definitely know at least 4 bisexuals. I equally DON"T know any legendary warriors, competent archers, lyrium infused elves (although a significant proportion of my friends have tattoos), or lady pirates (unless you mean the downloading variety).

And I reiterate my earlier plea to STOP METAGAMING!

Hehe, no way. Out of all the giant, massive impossible conicidences that happen in RPGs, this is the most greivous and unbelievable one.

[falconlord5]

That's a new icon, Yuki.

[MorningBird]

yukidama wrote...

jenaisa wrote...

omg, 1005! Spreading our Fenris love gonna rule the world *muahahahaha*

I've gone through a ton of pages @_@ I hope I haven't missed something important!

And this!:

*SNIP*
From where is it? *_____________* 
I want to know what's going on ><
Thoughts?

Fenris is the new Oghren.

I like the way you think.

Though, I am also intrigued by that image. xD  WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?

[EscherEnigma]

tankgirly wrote...

This might sounds very silly. What's Metagaming?

When you, the player, make an in-game decision using out-of-game knowledge.  One example would be choosing to recruit the mages first because you want to get Wynne since you dislike using Morrigan as a healer.

Another would be starting a fight with what appears to be a much stronger opponent because you don't think the designers would put you into a fight you can't win, or thinking that if you can flirt with a companion they must be able to reciprocate because otherwise you wouldn't be able to flirt to begin with.

[archangelheart21]

oh nooo i was soo close to actually posting in the 1,000 area D:

[Wissenschaft]

tankgirly wrote...

This might sounds very silly. What's Metagaming?

Games like DA2 are meant for players to into their stories without knowing anything. Metagaming is when you learn from outside sources (outside of the game that is) info about the games setting, characters, and events and let that info influence your choices while playing the game.

Pretty much its what I do all the time. 

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 02 mars 2011 - 12:19 .

[Maera Imrov]

Some people don't care to rp, and play more to min/max or mold the game experience, and thus enjoy metagaming. I'm not one of them, but telling someone to stop doing it might be telling them to basically stop playing the way they want to play.

Also, really, do we have to drag this all bi dead horse into this thread, too? Really? Damn.

[MorningBird]

Maera Imrov wrote...

Some people don't care to rp, and play more to min/max or mold the game experience, and thus enjoy metagaming. I'm not one of them, but telling someone to stop doing it might be telling them to basically stop playing the way they want to play.

Also, really, do we have to drag this all bi dead horse into this thread, too? Really? Damn.

*raises hands* Don't look at me!  It's in my banner and nowhere else!  I pretty much ignore the topic when it's outside of the M/M or Romance thread.

[Maera Imrov]

I don't mind it in the banners, I just hate seeing it bleed into every character thread in the forums. It's being debated to death enough in the m/m and romance thread, and even had it's own thread at one point in time. Two places is sufficient. Or even more than sufficient.

[Ms .45]

EscherEnigma wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

This might sounds very silly. What's Metagaming?

When you, the player, make an in-game decision using out-of-game knowledge.  One example would be choosing to recruit the mages first because you want to get Wynne since you dislike using Morrigan as a healer.

Another would be starting a fight with what appears to be a much stronger opponent because you don't think the designers would put you into a fight you can't win, or thinking that if you can flirt with a companion they must be able to reciprocate because otherwise you wouldn't be able to flirt to begin with.

^What he said.

I played Origins without any knowledge of the story or characters. I screwed up the game a bit (poor selection of skills, not having a romance because I didn't understand how approval worked, etc), but all the funny lines and the characters were a revelation to me - the last RPG I'd played was Diablo II, which isn't known for its emotional depth. So DAII is going to be a very different experience for me. I hope I haven't spoiled myself too much.

On an elf-related note, it occurs to me that we actually don't know as much about Fenris as we think we do. I know some people on this forum are coming to very different conclusions than I have. They could be right and I could be wrong, of course, my point is that what we've seen - the tantrum with Aveline, the encounter in Kirkwall, the boozing - actually doesn't add up to anything consistent.

Arrrrgh, I'm going to stick myself in a pod and not wake up til the 10th. That will work, right??

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Maera Imrov wrote...

I don't mind it in the banners, I just hate seeing it bleed into every character thread in the forums. It's being debated to death enough in the m/m and romance thread, and even had it's own thread at one point in time. Two places is sufficient. Or even more than sufficient.

This. Plus, this topic begins debate, which flares into arguments. 

@Everyone who commented on my story:

Thank you so much! I'm pleased you all enjoyed it! 

[WMRina]

Isn't it sort of impossible not to metagame in DA2?  We already know some about the characters,  that some of them we can choose whether or not to recruit, the friend vs. rival idea, especially if we've already played the demo...

I mean just reading the forums might qualify, right?  Or must you act on it specifically, admitting your choice was because of previous knowledge? If you act specifically against previous knowledge, doesn't that also count?

[Ms .45]

Maera Imrov wrote...

Some people don't care to rp, and play more to min/max or mold the game experience, and thus enjoy metagaming. I'm not one of them, but telling someone to stop doing it might be telling them to basically stop playing the way they want to play.

Sorry, my comment was aimed strictly at the people saying that having all the characters have a bi OPTION was ruining their game. That is, the metagaming was ruining their enjoyment - whereas if metagaming DOESN'T ruin your enjoyment, then metagame on!

[mellifera]

falconlord5 wrote...

That's a new icon, Yuki.

Indeed.

MorningBird wrote...

yukidama wrote...

jenaisa wrote...

omg, 1005! Spreading our Fenris love gonna rule the world *muahahahaha*

I've gone through a ton of pages @_@ I hope I haven't missed something important!

And this!:

*SNIP*
From where is it? *_____________*
I want to know what's going on ><
Thoughts?

Fenris is the new Oghren.

I like the way you think.

Though, I am also intrigued by that image. xD WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?

2H Warrior, chugging on liquor bottles? ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR ME TO MAKE THIS CONNECTION WORK.

Modifié par yukidama, 02 mars 2011 - 12:33 .

[WMRina]

Ms .45 wrote...

Maera Imrov wrote...

Some people don't care to rp, and play more to min/max or mold the game experience, and thus enjoy metagaming. I'm not one of them, but telling someone to stop doing it might be telling them to basically stop playing the way they want to play.

Sorry, my comment was aimed strictly at the people saying that having all the characters have a bi OPTION was ruining their game. That is, the metagaming was ruining their enjoyment - whereas if metagaming DOESN'T ruin your enjoyment, then metagame on!

Oh, a lot stuff would have to be pretty effed up for it to ruin my game.  I payed $60+ for the signature edition, I am going to enjoy it even if it kills me. 

But in all seriousness, I'm very excited.  Surprise me, Bioware.

Modifié par WMRina, 02 mars 2011 - 12:33 .

[tankgirly]

I know enough spoilers, in theory to the degree most gamer will consider it's totally ruin the game playing experience. But It's like someone give you a map, plus a tourist guide (Lonely Planet) before you visit a city. I want to play the game even more. To me the game will still be great. Like someone said at the Super Spoiler thread, it's how you play that count.

Now Fenris...........any more prompt?

[archangelheart21]

okkay so is fenris the bi one??

[tankgirly]

@archangelheart2, no one know.

[bobbyjoe123]

maybe

[archangelheart21]

alrighty thanks

this is random but zevran looks really funny and wierd in DA2