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[bobbyjoe123]

since when was he in DA 2

[archangelheart21]

@bobbyjoe: there's a pic in the wiki... and you'll meet a lot of familier faces in DA2

[bobbyjoe123]

oh thats nice to know

[tankgirly]

bobbyjoe123 wrote...

since when was he in DA 2

1. If you sit through the credit at the end of the demo you will see Jon Curry, Zevran's VA, was in it.
2. SPOILER: ZEVRAN'S SHOT IN DAII
3. You can see, or discuss it in the thread HERE

[Dr. wonderful]

....10007 pages!?

Holy [CENSORED]

[bobbyjoe123]

aight thanks

[archangelheart21]

omg i like being helpful in a way

[Ms .45]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Ms .45 wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

I know that it's just a game, but that sort of thing [All characters being bi] breaks imersion for me, it cheapens the story AND the characters.  One of the best things about the fantasy genre is how it adds certain fantastic elements to real world situations and interactions, and making those interactions anything less than what I would expect from real life affects the experience of the story in a negative way for me. 

Don't forget that we're metagaming here. The characters won't all be bisexual in YOUR game. So, I can play as F!Hawke and romance Merrill, and have absolutely no-one else be bi (except Isabela, and she's just, well, Isabela).

In other words, maybe you should stay out of the forums so you don't know this sort of stuff - because knowing it is what breaks your immersion.

Um, no thanks.  If they're bisexual in one game I would be even more disappointed if they weren't just as blatently bisexual in mine, because that would mean BioWare had completely marginalized the impact sexual orientation has on someone's character.  It's a big part of who someone is, not their defining characteristic, obviously, but it still matters A LOT.  It determines how you experience puberty, the people you choose to associate with, how you relate to others on sexual matters, etc.  Making sexuality variable would change who the character is in a substantial way.  Having it be a "this character will be this way in X's game and this way in Y's game" situation does not sit well with me.

On the subject of metagaming, I will happily admit to this.  I do it constantly, but that's not what breaks immersion as far as I'm concerned, anymore than being the author of a work of fiction can break your immersion in it.  I suspect that we have different definitions of immersion.  And that's lovely.  To each their own.

OK, I can kind of see your point, but remember that, for instance, Alistair and Leliana could become somewhat different people depending on whether you hardened them, and Morrigan and Velanna became a lot nicer if you could (be bothered to) get them on side.

My point is, it's not completely outrageous for a video game character to have a significantly different (or just a slightly different) personality between games.

Having said all that, I like the idea of characters being strictly gay or straight. Can you imagine the fangirl outrage if Fenris could ONLY be romanced by M!Hawke?

[archangelheart21]

@Ms.45: so all the charaters are bi??

[Fangirl17]

Dammit thats it I need to leave the threads I have seen to many damn spoilers So long fellow Fenris fangirls*sadly waves*

[Margaret_TheElf]

I edited my post on the 1000 page, enjoy!


HOLY CRAP, ZEVRAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!<3<3

[Ms .45]

archangelheart21 wrote...

@Ms.45: so all the charaters are bi??

We don't really know that yet, but there is some fairly strong evidence... can someone please repost the Merrill screenshots with LadyHawke? 

[Phoenix_Valkyre]

Margaret_TheElf wrote...

Edit: PUPPY EYES!!

Awww its adorable!! very cute!<3

Great job hun!

[bobbyjoe123]

didnt know he had green eyes

[archangelheart21]

@Phoenix: OMG!!! ahh its cute but... said in a way
@Ms.45: oh i've seen the merrill pics.. lol XD i wonder if fenris is bi

[archangelheart21]

@bobbyjoe: its close... isn't it like a khaki yellow though

[bobbyjoe123]

dont know I dont pay much attention to the pics

[Saarbear]

Phoenix_Valkyre wrote...

Margaret_TheElf wrote...

Edit: PUPPY EYES!!

Awww its adorable!! very cute!<3

Great job hun!

Great job!
He's so cute

[Tamyn]

I know you wanted to see this tankgirly:

[Erani]

Oh no, missed page 1000! Well, no matter, yey!  Happy Belated 1000 Pages!!! 
@MRC, Loved it. <3
Hugs and cookies for everyone. 

[EscherEnigma]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Yes, you could change Alistair, Leliana, Velanna, and Morrigan, but that was a little different.  That was influencing their opinions, something that is inherently changeable.  Sexual orientation isn't like that, that's something you're born with, not something that develops due to life experience.  It would be like if in my game Fenris is a human Tevinter slave but in yours he's an elf.  Race (that is, elf, human, dwarf) obviously has a larger impact on who someone is than orientation (in the context of Dragon Age), but the principle is the same.  A human in Fenris's position would have a much different life experience than an elf, just as a bisexual would have a different life experience than a straight person. 

Ohohoho, I can just picture the explosion of rage.  I think I'd be torn between disappointment that I couldn't romance him and amusement.

True... but it was also possible to get through the game without learning that Lelianna was into women.  Ok, if you listened to her talk about Marjolaine you might get the hint, but as far as I recall she never really hit on women aside from the main character.  Zev... well, he was about as subtle as a truck.

But still.  Just because something is a part of someone's characterization doesn't mean it has to be on display.  And in a game that means, effectively, it isn't there for people that don't do the right dance to put it on display.

[tankgirly]

Tamyn wrote...

I know you wanted to see this tankgirly:

I LOVE YOU!

[archangelheart21]

whats the map about

[Tamyn]

It shows where Fenris' magister's house is.