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#25801
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Ineffable Igor wrote...

MaidOfWynne wrote...

Bit late to the party I'm afraid, but I hereby nominate this as the most
badass, sexiest picture of Fenris that will ever be made, and one that
captures every single facet of his complicated personality.

http://social.biowar...00866/95054.jpg

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Ya know, I think it says something about the history of this thread and the type of people who frequent it that I didn't take this seriously for a second, lol. :P  We are ridiculously awesome.


Why yes, yes we are.  You don't really love something to the point of unhealthy obsession unless you can laugh at it. 

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I need help!

Since we know about the Fenris mage-hatin', I have been thinking about starting my first playthrough as a mage, just because... you know, it sounds amazing and interesting.
The problem is that deep down I want to play a rogue.. I love rogues and they were absolutely great in the demo. Mages were also fun to play, but not as much fun as the rogues. The moment I heard DA2 had improved rogue 'stuff' I told everyone I was going to play a rogue in my first playthrough, but now (because of one stupid spoiler, wish I'd never seen it) I want to play a mage.
Of course you guys can't tell me what to do, but I was wondering; is any of you in the same situation?

I need therapy, never thought deciding my first class would be so difficult. *sighs*

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Ramante wrote...

I need help!

Since we know about the Fenris mage-hatin', I have been thinking about starting my first playthrough as a mage, just because... you know, it sounds amazing and interesting.
The problem is that deep down I want to play a rogue.. I love rogues and they were absolutely great in the demo. Mages were also fun to play, but not as much fun as the rogues. The moment I heard DA2 had improved rogue 'stuff' I told everyone I was going to play a rogue in my first playthrough, but now (because of one stupid spoiler, wish I'd never seen it) I want to play a mage.
Of course you guys can't tell me what to do, but I was wondering; is any of you in the same situation?

I need therapy, never thought deciding my first class would be so difficult. *sighs*



You are not alone! My favorite class in Origins is Rogue, and it's my favorite from my short experience in the demo. DW rogues are just lethal, and archers are so bad*** this time!!! I really want to play a mage for the Fenris' rivalmance, but it'll have to wait till my second playthrough. First time, DW Lady Hawke yey! Image IPB

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I was going to play mage since i like casters.
But the fenris hatred thing might work with rogue/warrior.
Your sister's a apostate , so you might stand for her.
You know :"What did you say about my sisters! i'm gonna kick your ...!" etc
Sounds fun too :)

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Ramante wrote...

I need help!

Since we know about the Fenris mage-hatin', I have been thinking about starting my first playthrough as a mage, just because... you know, it sounds amazing and interesting.
The problem is that deep down I want to play a rogue.. I love rogues and they were absolutely great in the demo. Mages were also fun to play, but not as much fun as the rogues. The moment I heard DA2 had improved rogue 'stuff' I told everyone I was going to play a rogue in my first playthrough, but now (because of one stupid spoiler, wish I'd never seen it) I want to play a mage.
Of course you guys can't tell me what to do, but I was wondering; is any of you in the same situation?

I need therapy, never thought deciding my first class would be so difficult. *sighs*



Well, in Origins I might have played a mage, except I didn't like the low health and inability to be in the fray of combat.  Thus I went the dual-weilding assassin/duelist route with fairly high STR for a rogue (and lots of DEX/CUN but that goes without saying) and I kicked way more ass than my tanks.  (Maybe I was just bad at managing my companions? :unsure:)  It was so much fun, I was determined to play as a rogue in DA2.

But honestly, I am having some trouble with it.  But it doesn't really have to do with Fenris, b/c I'l play the game more than once and be able to explore the romance/rival/friend options more fully.  But playing as a mage in the demo was so awesome.  The class was almost ridiculously overpowered, so I was destroying darkspawn/enemies not having to hardly lift a finger (with a little micromanagement).  I want to play a mage because it's actually fun now (and, admittedly, I would like to see the relationship dynamics between Hawke and Fenris, it's just secondary).

Playing as a rogue was almost as fun.  Almost.

But I already have this sort of femme fatale rogue character planned out in my head.  So a mage will have to be my 2nd playthrough.    

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#25806
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WMRina wrote...

Ramante wrote...

I need help!

Since we know about the Fenris mage-hatin', I have been thinking about starting my first playthrough as a mage, just because... you know, it sounds amazing and interesting.
The problem is that deep down I want to play a rogue.. I love rogues and they were absolutely great in the demo. Mages were also fun to play, but not as much fun as the rogues. The moment I heard DA2 had improved rogue 'stuff' I told everyone I was going to play a rogue in my first playthrough, but now (because of one stupid spoiler, wish I'd never seen it) I want to play a mage.
Of course you guys can't tell me what to do, but I was wondering; is any of you in the same situation?

I need therapy, never thought deciding my first class would be so difficult. *sighs*



Well, in Origins I might have played a mage, except I didn't like the low health and inability to be in the fray of combat.  Thus I went the dual-weilding assassin/duelist route with fairly high STR for a rogue (and lots of DEX/CUN but that goes without saying) and I kicked way more ass than my tanks.  (Maybe I was just bad at managing my companions? :unsure:)  It was so much fun, I was determined to play as a rogue in DA2.

But honestly, I am having some trouble with it.  But it doesn't really have to do with Fenris, b/c I'l play the game more than once and be able to explore the romance/rival/friend options more fully.  But playing as a mage in the demo was so awesome.  The class was almost ridiculously overpowered, so I was destroying darkspawn/enemies not having to hardly lift a finger (with a little micromanagement).  I want to play a mage because it's actually fun now (and, admittedly, I would like to see the relationship dynamics between Hawke and Fenris, it's just secondary).

Playing as a rogue was almost as fun.  Almost.

But I already have this sort of femme fatale rogue character planned out in my head.  So a mage will have to be my 2nd playthrough.    

This!
I have the entire thing planned for my rogue -> party composition, what kind of character she will be, I even picked a name. So maybe I will play a rogue first.. my first character in origins was also a rogue.

And I know that you will probably get mage-hate from Fenris even if Hawke is not a mage herself, but I am really looking forward to the 'falling in love with what you hate'-thing.

Aargh, can't decide. xD

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i'm not sure to go with rogue or mage....i was already leaning towards rogue but with the new fenris information now i'm not sure, i want some love-hate!

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Ramante wrote...

This!
I have the entire thing planned for my rogue -> party composition, what kind of character she will be, I even picked a name. So maybe I will play a rogue first.. my first character in origins was also a rogue.

And I know that you will probably get mage-hate from Fenris even if Hawke is not a mage herself, but I am really looking forward to the 'falling in love with what you hate'-thing.

Aargh, can't decide. xD


(Sorry, clipping my verbose explanation)

Oh, I didn't say anything because I didn't know if I was the only person who already had an appearance, personality, and name picked out for my Hawke.

As to party,  gah I don't know.  I changed my mind in Origins, so I probably will in DA2.  Though it'll be hard not to want to take Fenris with me, just to beautify things.  :D 

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WMRina wrote...

Ramante wrote...

This!
I have the entire thing planned for my rogue -> party composition, what kind of character she will be, I even picked a name. So maybe I will play a rogue first.. my first character in origins was also a rogue.

And I know that you will probably get mage-hate from Fenris even if Hawke is not a mage herself, but I am really looking forward to the 'falling in love with what you hate'-thing.

Aargh, can't decide. xD


(Sorry, clipping my verbose explanation)

Oh, I didn't say anything because I didn't know if I was the only person who already had an appearance, personality, and name picked out for my Hawke.

As to party,  gah I don't know.  I changed my mind in Origins, so I probably will in DA2.  Though it'll be hard not to want to take Fenris with me, just to beautify things.  :D 


Party composition is very important, I am going to use the 'dream team', especially now I know that Fenris really hates mages (and Anders really hates mage-haters). But that dream team works best with a warrior/rogue Hawke (I don't like to have 2 mages in my team). xD

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#25810
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 It's been a very, very long time since I wrote anything aside from original fiction, so I'm sorry if this isn't at all like the relationship as it would be. But I was trying to think about what the rivalmance with a mage would be like, so...here's a short bit of story, I guess.

The smoke rose up to the rafters of the Great Hall, heavy with the scent of roasting meats and loud with singing from the drunk nobles. People were pressed close together, trying to be heard by their neighbors discussing trade, arms slung around each other as alcohol dulled propriety. It was a relaxed, jovial environment. It was a very human place.

Fenris had never been so aware of his race in his life. At least, he thought darkly as he idly pushed food around on his plate, he didn’t remember any instance where he had felt less human.

It had been a long day. His urge to get back home, to finally lay his head down and sleep, was overpowering. There had been fighting in the square-which one, he couldn’t remember. The individualities of battles got lost to the rush of
adrenaline, the feeling of power, of control. The only fights he relished were those where he got to fight the damn sparkle-fingers, the more powerful the better.  The battlesong seemed sweeter, when his sword could find a source of magic and destroy it.  In every shocked, smug face, he saw the Magister; and for that moment, as he raised his sword and saw the knowledge in their eyes of what was happening, he felt free.

These…feasts. The diplomacy. The negotiations. These were chains. He honestly couldn’t remember how many of these he had been dragged along to, trussed up, tarted up in noble clothing to hide how very different he was. He was sure that Hawke knew very well how much these events made his blood boil. He suspected it was precisely because of that that she made him come.

Fenris looked at her now.  She was playing the sympathetic audience to some count or another, the man so drunk that his obvious leering at her more desirable attributes was outright offensive. Fenris had heard her joking with Merrill earlier, saying that she so often had to wear armor that the chance to wear something nice made every lecherous comment seem the flattering compliment. He wondered how flattered she was now.  He wondered what the count’s face would look like if Fenris phased a fist through his groin, because that’s what he wanted to do right now.

Hawke seemed calm enough at the attention. Her mage staff had been left at the door, as everyone’s weapons had been (at least the obvious ones), and yet she had never looked more in control of a situation. That was the thing about mages, Fenris thought-even if they didn’t have their staff on them, they were still so
dangerous. If he was a living weapon, they were, also. But at least he couldn’t bring the building down on their heads. At least he didn’t have the power to kill someone from the other side of the room with a well-aimed spell. In a way,
his hated tattoos made him better-at least they let people know that he was a threat. Anyone could be a mage. There was no sign. There was no warning, until they had you under their power, and it was too late.

Fenris stared at the beautiful woman across the table from him, and wondered at everything she was. How could he despise everything about her-her human arrogance, her self-satisfied mage’s smirk, her connection with nobility-and yet want her so badly? If he had his sword right now, he would have killed that count if he had gotten any more…fresh with her. How could she intimidate him so, yet he would do whatever she asked of him? He was a free man-a free elf. But whenever he was around her, he felt those chains fall back into place. He hated her because she held him fully.

"Sparkle-fingers" didn’t even begin to describe her.


EDIT: It's been a while since I've edited fiction into a post. Pay no heed to my rapid edits trying to make this more aesthetically pleasing. In retrospect, I interpreted "rivalmance" as "hatemance". Anyone else having trouble making that distinction? Discuss.

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#25811
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Ramante wrote...

WMRina wrote...

Ramante wrote...

This!
I have the entire thing planned for my rogue -> party composition, what kind of character she will be, I even picked a name. So maybe I will play a rogue first.. my first character in origins was also a rogue.

And I know that you will probably get mage-hate from Fenris even if Hawke is not a mage herself, but I am really looking forward to the 'falling in love with what you hate'-thing.

Aargh, can't decide. xD


(Sorry, clipping my verbose explanation)

Oh, I didn't say anything because I didn't know if I was the only person who already had an appearance, personality, and name picked out for my Hawke.

As to party,  gah I don't know.  I changed my mind in Origins, so I probably will in DA2.  Though it'll be hard not to want to take Fenris with me, just to beautify things.  :D 


Party composition is very important, I am going to use the 'dream team', especially now I know that Fenris really hates mages (and Anders really hates mage-haters). But that dream team works best with a warrior/rogue Hawke (I don't like to have 2 mages in my team). xD

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OHMYGAWDYES. 

Dream team?  More like "dream come true" team. 

And really?  In Awakening I used two mages and 2 DW rogues in my party.  Having 2 mages made all the difference there.  Didn't need a tank because the mages could alternate between healing and blowing enemies away with fire/ice/crushing prison.  Then me (and Nate) lacerated them to bits while they were helpless. :devil:

I like experimenting with party composition, see what combos I can get to work.
But goddamn.  I don't know if I'll be able to resist taking those 3 with me constantly, even if they all hate me. :wub:  Pimp Hawke for the win.

#25812
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WMRina wrote...

Ramante wrote...

-snip- (not snipping picture because I luv it!)

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OHMYGAWDYES. 

Dream team?  More like "dream come true" team. 

And really?  In Awakening I used two mages and 2 DW rogues in my party.  Having 2 mages made all the difference there.  Didn't need a tank because the mages could alternate between healing and blowing enemies away with fire/ice/crushing prison.  Then me (and Nate) lacerated them to bits while they were helpless. :devil:

I like experimenting with party composition, see what combos I can get to work.
But goddamn.  I don't know if I'll be able to resist taking those 3 with me constantly, even if they all hate me. :wub:  Pimp Hawke for the win.

Team: Personal Harem! I am going to flirt with all of them. :wub:

About the 2 mages thing, I am more a '2 warriors, 1 rogue, 1 mage' or '1 warrior, 1 archer, 1 rogue, 1 mage' thing.. but 2 mages could work, I guess.. Make Anders a healer/controller and Hawke a damager... This is really not helping with my decision. x"D

#25813
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^^That team will be waaaayyyy too distracting for my own good! very tempting though since it would be a good team format.

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This is a triumvirate of sexiness, to be sure.  Image IPB

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 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

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Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

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O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

#25817
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WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

'

O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

Sod it, I'm already doomed. >>'

#25818
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WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

'

O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

There's also spoilers (or a guide, really) about how to recruit him if you're a mage. It sounds like you have to tread carefully. =]

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Minxie18 wrote...

WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

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O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

There's also spoilers (or a guide, really) about how to recruit him if you're a mage. It sounds like you have to tread carefully. =]

I was planning to not read the guide prior to/during my first playthrough. But if our shiny elf is going to play hard to get, I am going to cheat by reading the guide.

#25820
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Minxie18 wrote...

WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

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O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

There's also spoilers (or a guide, really) about how to recruit him if you're a mage. It sounds like you have to tread carefully. =]


Tread carefully?  Now you're making me even MORE interested (if that is even possible).  :crying:  I really shouldn't read, I'm going to know everything before I play...but...but... Fenris!:crying:

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WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

'

O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

There's also spoilers (or a guide, really) about how to recruit him if you're a mage. It sounds like you have to tread carefully. =]


Tread carefully?  Now you're maiking me even MORE interested (if that is even possible).  :crying:  I really shoudln't read, I'm going to know everything before I play...but...but...:crying:

You don't have to absolutely know everything about how to recruit him, though! The guide assures that there is an autosave before an important conversation with Fenris, so even if you mess up you can reload and try other options to see what happens. ;)

#25822
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I have resisted...i want everything to be a surprise in my first playthrough like in origins.

#25823
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Minxie18 wrote...

WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

WMRina wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

 Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's stuff about Fenris in pages from the guide here. There are spoilers about his approaches to romance. 

'

O.O....should....not...read....you know I have no willpower.  ARGH!  

There's also spoilers (or a guide, really) about how to recruit him if you're a mage. It sounds like you have to tread carefully. =]


Tread carefully?  Now you're maiking me even MORE interested (if that is even possible).  :crying:  I really shoudln't read, I'm going to know everything before I play...but...but...:crying:

You don't have to absolutely know everything about how to recruit him, though! The guide assures that there is an autosave before an important conversation with Fenris, so even if you mess up you can reload and try other options to see what happens. ;)

Okay, I've read it... and damn, Fenris is going to HATE! all my Hawkes. o.o'
I don't even have to put in any effort to get rivalry points, he will immediatly hate me!

The horror! I'm so going to enjoy this. :devil:


Edit: OMG, OMG, OMG... I've spotted a major spoiler!!!! I wanna tell someone, but I won't post it here. Damn, I'm so hyped right now!!!! *runs around squeeing* <3

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Ramante wrote...

Edit: OMG, OMG, OMG... I've spotted a major spoiler!!!! I wanna tell someone, but I won't post it here. Damn, I'm so hyped right now!!!! *runs around squeeing* <3

Lol, I'm not sure what you might be referring to - was it something in the guide? Could you pm it to me?

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@Ramante PM it to me too.