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#26701
CatsGrin

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Ugh! I keep losing points with Fenris no matter what I do! I don't wanna rivalmance him,but I seem to be getting no choice!

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Liyros

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Wow, okay. It's good to know he comes around in Act III. I had a "wait...HEY, what just happened?" moment. It's lovely being reassured :)

Back to it I go, yay.

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Naemi79

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CatsGrin wrote...

Okay,someone who's beaten the game with him as an LI and kept him really needs to create the "How to woo Fenris" guide for us,lol


Yes, can someone do this plz?
I have problems getting the rivalmance since I keep hating on the slavers, but loving the mages :P
Hehe, accidently got Anders as LI on my first atempts on mage playthrough. I just wanted too test the flirting thing... hmmm, ah well.

A guide for Fenris friendship / rivalmance would be very helpful indeed!

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wetnasty

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CatsGrin wrote...

Ugh! I keep losing points with Fenris no matter what I do! I don't wanna rivalmance him,but I seem to be getting no choice!


Eventually I just said screw it, and went the rivalry route. He's such an *******. <_<

Now I know who Priestly was talking about when he said that he wanted to recruit someone and it turns out they were a dick.

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Naenwen wrote...

CatsGrin wrote...

Okay,someone who's beaten the game with him as an LI and kept him really needs to create the "How to woo Fenris" guide for us,lol


Yes, can someone do this plz?
I have problems getting the rivalmance since I keep hating on the slavers, but loving the mages :P
Hehe, accidently got Anders as LI on my first atempts on mage playthrough. I just wanted too test the flirting thing... hmmm, ah well.

A guide for Fenris friendship / rivalmance would be very helpful indeed!


Okay, if you're going on the 'support the mages' route at the end of the game in a rivalmance, you WILL lose Fenris.  If it's Rivalmance, you have to support the templars.

My recommendations for getting Fenris are to wait until you've aquired both Anders AND Merrill, then go for it.  I started with some rivalry points because I hadn't gotten Merrill and brought Fenris with me when I went to get her.  I also got a few to start because I was playing as a mage (and flirted with him, Rivalry +15 for that one).  You should NOT bring a mage if you don't want those rivalry points.  When you talk to him at his house after the mission, as soon as you get the flirt option, take it.  In fact, with the exception of the first time (after you leave Danarius's Mansion) EVERY time you get a flirt option, take it.

Whenever you're given the opportunity to send a mage to the circle (this is appropriate with Avelline, as well), DO IT if Fen is in your party.

Shortly after act 2 starts, if you go to the sundermount region, you should get ambushed by some hunters looking for Fenris.  Go after them (With Fen in your party) IMMEDIATELY.  Don't wait around because you'll either get attacked by more (and he'll get angry), or he might abandon your party altogether.  The dialogue options should be fairly simple for that part.  If you get the opportunity to ask Fenris his opinion, DO IT.  Mid-mission, you'll come across an elven slave girl.  Give her some coin and send her on her way.  (Fenris says she'll probably get robbed, but you snag +10 to friendship).

Also in act 2, there is a gift for Fenris in the Alienage at night, for easy friendship points.

Don't count on the strategy guide (book version) saving you.  It IS possible to have a friendly romance as a mage (I'm doing it and the friend bar is full).

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DemonSaya wrote...

Also in act 2, there is a gift for Fenris in the Alienage at night, for easy friendship points.


So that's where you find the gift! I looked everywhere for one, but no such luck.

Also, I can confirm too that a mage can be 100% friendly and in romance with Fenris. Just started Act 3 so I'll see how it goes from there. I've kind of taken a somewhat neutral stance between mages and templars so far, but usually leaning towards there should still be a control over magic.

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Savvie wrote...

DemonSaya wrote...

Also in act 2, there is a gift for Fenris in the Alienage at night, for easy friendship points.


So that's where you find the gift! I looked everywhere for one, but no such luck.

Also, I can confirm too that a mage can be 100% friendly and in romance with Fenris. Just started Act 3 so I'll see how it goes from there. I've kind of taken a somewhat neutral stance between mages and templars so far, but usually leaning towards there should still be a control over magic.


Seriously, I got to 100% friendship with him by the beginning of the second act as a mage. Just be mean to mages in a few quests and then you never have to be mean again. After it gets to 100% it won't go down no matter what.

But unless I'm missing something, I found Act 3 with Fenris to be really lame. His quest was way too short and the conversation after was pretty lame too. Where is the screenshot that we got from Romance announcements thread from? C'mon, we should at least be able to see the guy without a shirt.

And there are still a whole lotta questions left for me about him. I keep hoping I'm missing something but I don't think I am.

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yoshibb wrote...
But unless I'm missing something, I found Act 3 with Fenris to be really lame. His quest was way too short and the conversation after was pretty lame too. Where is the screenshot that we got from Romance announcements thread from? C'mon, we should at least be able to see the guy without a shirt.

And there are still a whole lotta questions left for me about him. I keep hoping I'm missing something but I don't think I am.


This makes me sad to hear :( About done Act 2, here. I am absolutely, positively loving DA2 so far, possibly moreso than Origins. But the one complaint I'll give people is that I really don't feel I can dig deep into a companion like I could in DA:O, NONE of them. I'm okay with them not letting us talk to the companions whenever -- always did seem silly to ask Leliana about her childhood standing beside Hespith's corpse pile -- but I really, really, really wish there were a lot more conversation trees.

I was hoping it'd get better at the end, but :(

It sucks, too, because I find DA2's companions BETTER than Origins'. They're more complex, darker, less shiney and more real. When we get these amazing characters like this, I really wish that we could delve deep down and ask them about their lives like we could in Origins. Hell, I'd even be okay with the characters refusing to answer the questions. I just wish we could ask them.

(It's bothering me that my Hawke can't roll up to Fenris and be like "SO WHAT'S GOING ON, IS THERE ANY FUTURE HERE, ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND?" I'd happily take a rivalry hit, and even have him say "I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT" and nothing more. I just want the option to ASK, you know?)

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 Wooo I finally got my copy of DA2!!!!:o

How long I have to play to until I get to Fenris?:wub:

#26710
RosaAquafire

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Mresa wrote...

 Wooo I finally got my copy of DA2!!!!:o

How long I have to play to until I get to Fenris?:wub:


Only a few hours! You can get him fairly early into chapter one :D Do sidequests around Kirkwall and keep checking your mail. When you get the quest "Bait and Switch," that's Fenris! He was the first character I recruited after the autorecruit train at the start. I was only about level 5 when I did his recruitment mission ...

#26711
Kemmer

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Pretty soon. As you're doing other quests, make sure to head home and check the writing desk on occasion. Once you see "Bait and Switch" you're on your way!

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Ah thanks! I've played now about 2,5 hours, done a only a few sidequests. I'll be now checking the mail all the time.

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I apologise for the inanity of this question, but at what point is Fenris's first romance scene available? It says in the guide to visit the Hawke estate at night after the Questioning Beliefs quest, but I'm not getting anything. I did flirt with him during Questioning Beliefs, and his relationship with me was at 100% friendship. Is it not available until after a certain period in the game (e.g. after a particular plot-related quest) or have I said the wrong thing/missed something? I've flirted with him at every possible opportunity.

Thanks in advance.

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Fenris visited me for sexy sexy time some time after his personal quest in act 2, he ran off after I finished that quest but then I went back to my mansion like 2 quests later and he was there and the romance scene progessed.

Aww, Fenris didn't like it when Zevran came on to me. LMAO.

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I'll try a couple more quests then, because I've really not done a whole lot since I spoke to him after A Bitter Pill--pretty much just other personal quests, Merrill's and Varric's.

Ahahaha, I can't wait until Zevran shows up, I'll make sure to have Fenris in my party for that!

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TeamLexana wrote...

Fenris visited me for sexy sexy time some time after his personal quest in act 2, he ran off after I finished that quest but then I went back to my mansion like 2 quests later and he was there and the romance scene progessed.

Aww, Fenris didn't like it when Zevran came on to me. LMAO.


D: what quests did you do?  I've been going to his mansion after every quest in Act 2 and he just gives me stock dialogue he'll give you anywhere.  the only time it was different was when I brought him the book x_x... does it require filling the bar to 100% one way?

#26717
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Second playthrough And i'm romancing him as a Malehawke mage... I love how he struggles with his feelings for you :) Eventually him and that sexy body of his ended up in my bed :D shame how he ditches though :(

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Ok I just finished the game, and am wondering where that screenshot that was leaked was from as well. There's no scene that I can find where Fenris and Hawke are nude and discussing something. I thought I was missing something, but surely there was nothing else. I kept going to mine and his house just to see. And, he never moves in, which makes no sense. Aveline and Varric basically go to him and say "this place is falling apart, you should leave".....yet I don't understand why asking him to move in wasn't an option then. So weird. Anyone know if there's something I'm missing here? Only did friendly romance thing. And yes, he's an awesome, mouthy jerk, and I love it! Much better than whiny Anders who screams constantly in battle.

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nightingales wrote...

I apologise for the inanity of this question, but at what point is Fenris's first romance scene available? It says in the guide to visit the Hawke estate at night after the Questioning Beliefs quest, but I'm not getting anything. I did flirt with him during Questioning Beliefs, and his relationship with me was at 100% friendship. Is it not available until after a certain period in the game (e.g. after a particular plot-related quest) or have I said the wrong thing/missed something? I've flirted with him at every possible opportunity.

Thanks in advance.


You have to complete his personal quest ("A Bitter Pill" or something like that) first.

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TeamLexana wrote...
Aww, Fenris didn't like it when Zevran came on to me. LMAO.


Would it happen to be Act 3 when Zevran shows up?

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So what i can do to make him happy as a friend. he is a rival i need him as a friend!

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nightingales

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Senchaid wrote...

You have to complete his personal quest ("A Bitter Pill" or something like that) first.


Yeah, I've already done that, that's the problem. I've returned to the Hawke estate after that and we had a conversation, but it ended with him saying "it would be best for both of us if I left." (paraphrasing there obviously) From what I know this is a different scenario than when he visits your estate later on and initiates a romantic scene, which is what I haven't been able to get.

#26723
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I just finished romancing Fenris on the Friendship path. If you don't want to be a jerk to every mage you meet yet still gain friend points be extra tough on demons, blood mages, and slavers. I ended up being friends with both Anders and Fenris. But, I did side with the templars in the end. I don't know if siding with the mages will be a deal breaker for him.

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Well I'm getting absolutely nowhere. My little mage is just not "rah rah slavery" enough to keep him on the rival path. Shouldn't have flirted with him early on, that gave +20 friendship points and from then on it's been dueling positives and negatives. Put him off for his personal quest, that was +15 rivalry... don't make the elf girl my slave, that was +15 friendship and we're back where we started. Gah. I'm just going to forget about it and play the main plot. Celibacy has its good points, I guess.  :?

Modifié par Addai67, 10 mars 2011 - 10:36 .


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For those having problems with the sex scene in Act2.

I played around a little with DA2 console(it's cheating, I know :)), and it seems to me there are two possible situations:
1. You have completed "Bitter Pill" quest, initiated romance before, friendship/rivalry is >50% and Hawke isn't romancing some other character at the time(I had to remove "active" flag for Isabela's romance and only after that it worked).
And probably only partly completed "Questioning Beliefs" (at least, that worked for me), Fenris hasn't told you yet about his escape.

In this case you get the glowing scene where Fenris pins Hawke to the wall.

2. You have completed "Bitter Pill", talked about Hadriana(Fenris left) and somehow happened to initiate the romance after that(I don't know how exactly you do that, because I was using the console), then Fenris arrives at your estate at night and you get the "I'v been thinking of you" scene. And no glowing.
Other romances don't seem to matter in that case, "friendship/rivalry >50%" rule still applies.

Hope it helps someone.