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#27501
vampireassassin

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Teacake wrote...

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" If the friendship or rivalry level remains at least 50% Fenris will subsequently visit the Hawke Estate if you return at night. Flirt with him to trigger the romance. The next step is to ask him to move in."
does anybody know if this really happens...

My guide says that, and online resources say he won't, think the guides wrong.


I know i read that in the guide too.. lame ...but will i complete the full romance if he doesn't move in?

#27502
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ejoslin wrote...
THAT'S the conversation that made me think that sex would be another one of his duties as a slave.  Especially since he doesn't say it doesn't happen then, only that he doesn't remember before and hasn't since he escaped.  But nothing really is said outright.


The thing that makes me think that Fenris wasn't, erm, used by Danarius is such a way is how he reacts to Isabela's teasing about it with utter bemusement. I think he would have gotten defensive if there was actually a sexual servitude aspect of his duties to Danarius, instead of just his usual "sigh, Isabela."

But despite my logic saying "probably was just a bodyguard," everything else says "yeah, he was so abused in that way."

Because I'm a terrible person.

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vampireassassin wrote...

Teacake wrote...

vampireassassin wrote...

" If the friendship or rivalry level remains at least 50% Fenris will subsequently visit the Hawke Estate if you return at night. Flirt with him to trigger the romance. The next step is to ask him to move in."
does anybody know if this really happens...

My guide says that, and online resources say he won't, think the guides wrong.


I know i read that in the guide too.. lame ...but will i complete the full romance if he doesn't move in?


Yes, so dont worry <3:D

#27504
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I truly had a love/hate relationship with Fenris, once I decided to romance him. I was playing Hawke as a mage, so I was making a lot of mage-friendly decisions. It was a little weird and annoying to have Fenris constantly complaining about mages, especially after have being with Hawke for years, he couldnt possibly admit it wasnt ALL mages that are bad? But he was devoted and needed help. I was determined to change his mind about mages. How like a woman to try to fix a man :P  


I actually like that Fenris can't be persuaded to change his mind about mages, well other mages that aren't Hawke. I think it was in the scene where Hawke and him make up, Hawke can say something along the lines of, "Are you still anti-mage blahblah...?" I thought his response was understandable. While clearly he comes to respect a mage!Hawke, he says the number of 'weak' mages that give into demons or try to take power, greatly outnumbers mages like Hawke who are strong enough to ignore the temptation. I'm not at all surprised even in years in Hawke's pressense, his stance on mages hasn't changed all too much. Years of being abused as a slave by a crazy sadistic magister, in a country where you see mages abuse their power probably everyday, and being hounded by former masters' salvers for a fews years following escape... I'd be pretty resentful too. Let's not forget that during the events in the game, lots of the mages you encounter are exactly the kind of mages Fenris hates and fear Kirkwall will be taken over with. I was pretty much on camp 'Let-The-Mages-Be-Free', but after a while(Mama Hawke... :crying:) my Hawke thought, 'Hey, maybe having mages be looked after isn't such bad thing after all.' I think, even as stubborn as he is, I wouldn't have liked him as much if he didn't have such strong convictions. It's why I LOVE romancing him as mage. It's so ironic that with all his hate for mages, he can fall in love with one and swear to be by his or her side for the rest of his life. Hawke's his one exception. :wub: *gushgushgush*

#27505
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vampireassassin wrote...

Teacake wrote...

vampireassassin wrote...

" If the friendship or rivalry level remains at least 50% Fenris will subsequently visit the Hawke Estate if you return at night. Flirt with him to trigger the romance. The next step is to ask him to move in."
does anybody know if this really happens...

My guide says that, and online resources say he won't, think the guides wrong.


I know i read that in the guide too.. lame ...but will i complete the full romance if he doesn't move in?


Yes.  And it's fantastic :)  I just don't think him moving in is part of the romance at all.  He clings too hard to his independance during the game.  

#27506
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ZombieGeisha wrote...

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Fenris smells a fart Image IPB



Not me!

*points at Anders*


Funny you should say that!
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#27507
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RosaAquafire wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
THAT'S the conversation that made me think that sex would be another one of his duties as a slave.  Especially since he doesn't say it doesn't happen then, only that he doesn't remember before and hasn't since he escaped.  But nothing really is said outright.


The thing that makes me think that Fenris wasn't, erm, used by Danarius is such a way is how he reacts to Isabela's teasing about it with utter bemusement. I think he would have gotten defensive if there was actually a sexual servitude aspect of his duties to Danarius, instead of just his usual "sigh, Isabela."

But despite my logic saying "probably was just a bodyguard," everything else says "yeah, he was so abused in that way."

Because I'm a terrible person.


I dont' think defensiveness would necessarily be a reaction if that were part of his duties (it doesn't mean he hated it -- he's perfectly willing to fight though that was another one of his duties).  But it would definitely be separate from love and caring.  I actually think it makes more sense if he did.  But I'm a terrible person as well :/  

Modifié par ejoslin, 14 mars 2011 - 04:15 .


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I kinda wish with the endings you were told more about your companions, say you didnt end up with fenris, it could say he went of with Isabela or something etc.

Would be cool to see how the interactions could chnage each PC's fate. Was trying to do a playthrough romancing Anders as a mage but Fenris keeps tempting me. ARGH

#27509
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This is so frustrating... I was in the middle of act 2 when I realized I couldn't realistically romance Fenris. So I backtracked all the way to the Thrask mage cave to gain some friendship.

After doing that I managed to increase his friendship close to 100% at the beginning of Act 2, ended the budding romance with Anders.

I did the first "Questioning Belief" quest with Fenris, flirting with him, telling him there's nobody else that caught my attention.

Then I got his "A Bitter Pill" quest, at which point I was at 100% friendship.

I helped him with Hadriana, used the flirting option at the end.

Then, when I go back to the mansion, during the conversation I can flirt with him once at first ("I was worried about you") but that's it, I don't get the "Don't go" option I should have at the end...

I can't remember the last time I have been so frustrated at a game, so much backtracking, so much loading and reloading and yet NOTHING will give me that second flirting option.

What a waste, he was really the only character I was interested in romancing...

#27510
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did you give him his gifts?

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Mel_Redux wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Fenris smells a fart Image IPB



Not me!

*points at Anders*


Funny you should say that!
Image IPB


This picture fills me with glee.

#27512
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ZombieGeisha wrote...

did you give him his gifts?


I gave him his first gift, the only one that is available in Act 2 (Book of Shartan)

#27513
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Tasmen wrote...
This picture fills me with glee.


You know what fills me with glee? Lyribone*.


*trademark Tasmen Image IPB

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Mel_Redux wrote...

Tasmen wrote...
This picture fills me with glee.


You know what fills me with glee? Lyribone*.


*trademark Tasmen Image IPB


Lyribone ™ is the best.   I totally agree.

#27515
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Rioniku wrote...
Then, when I go back to the mansion, during the conversation I can flirt with him once at first ("I was worried about you") but that's it, I don't get the "Don't go" option I should have at the end...

I can't remember the last time I have been so frustrated at a game, so much backtracking, so much loading and reloading and yet NOTHING will give me that second flirting option.

What a waste, he was really the only character I was interested in romancing...

I don't think I got that either, but are you sure it's bugged?  Keep going, you may still get him showing up at the mansion at night.  He says "I've been thinking of you.  I can't think of anything else... etc. etc."

#27516
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Tasmen wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Tasmen wrote...
This picture fills me with glee.


You know what fills me with glee? Lyribone*.


*trademark Tasmen Image IPB


Lyribone ™ is the best.   I totally agree.


It fills me with more than glee. Image IPB

ZING!

#27517
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Addai67 wrote...

Rioniku wrote...
Then, when I go back to the mansion, during the conversation I can flirt with him once at first ("I was worried about you") but that's it, I don't get the "Don't go" option I should have at the end...

I can't remember the last time I have been so frustrated at a game, so much backtracking, so much loading and reloading and yet NOTHING will give me that second flirting option.

What a waste, he was really the only character I was interested in romancing...

I don't think I got that either, but are you sure it's bugged?  Keep going, you may still get him showing up at the mansion at night.  He says "I've been thinking of you.  I can't think of anything else... etc. etc."


Did you? After I didn't get that I played until the beginning of act 3, going back to the mansion at night every chance I got but he never came.

I still thought it was ok but then I did the last part of his quest, with his sister, and got the "Friend" ending, not even a chance to flirt or anything.

And I backtracked some more trying to figure what went wrong but it's beyond me...

#27518
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ZombieGeisha wrote...

I kinda wish with the endings you were told more about your companions, say you didnt end up with fenris, it could say he went of with Isabela or something etc.

Would be cool to see how the interactions could chnage each PC's fate. Was trying to do a playthrough romancing Anders as a mage but Fenris keeps tempting me. ARGH

DLC!  It's terrible that I'm already wondering what DLC will be out.

This obsession, it's a special brand of sick.

#27519
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Rioniku wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Rioniku wrote...
Then, when I go back to the mansion, during the conversation I can flirt with him once at first ("I was worried about you") but that's it, I don't get the "Don't go" option I should have at the end...

I can't remember the last time I have been so frustrated at a game, so much backtracking, so much loading and reloading and yet NOTHING will give me that second flirting option.

What a waste, he was really the only character I was interested in romancing...

I don't think I got that either, but are you sure it's bugged?  Keep going, you may still get him showing up at the mansion at night.  He says "I've been thinking of you.  I can't think of anything else... etc. etc."


Did you? After I didn't get that I played until the beginning of act 3, going back to the mansion at night every chance I got but he never came.

I still thought it was ok but then I did the last part of his quest, with his sister, and got the "Friend" ending, not even a chance to flirt or anything.

And I backtracked some more trying to figure what went wrong but it's beyond me...

Oh ok, so you did play through.  Not sure what happened there.  You had him at 100%?  The romance doesn't complete unless there's 100% rivalry or friendship.

#27520
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I'm right with you Addai. I'd love to see some DLC that fills in the 3 year time gaps.

#27521
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My third playthrough will be a mage again. I will try to romance Anders, but knowing what he'll do... and with Fenris around... darnit, it wont work!

I want a dlc too! D: A good one, with a lot of Fenris.

#27522
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I was at 95% friendship when I did the Hadriana quest, which I heard is plenty for the part of the game.

When I realized I was stuck in the Friend Zone in act 3 I loaded an old save, used an editor to max out my friendship and did everything again (End it with Enders, first par of Questioning Beliefs with flirt, give gift, do Hadriana quest) and still I don't get the option to tell him "Don't go", which really doesn't bode well...

The worst part is I ended the romance with all the other characters thinking this one was going to happen.

#27523
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Rioniku wrote...

I was at 95% friendship when I did the Hadriana quest, which I heard is plenty for the part of the game.

When I realized I was stuck in the Friend Zone in act 3 I loaded an old save, used an editor to max out my friendship and did everything again (End it with Enders, first par of Questioning Beliefs with flirt, give gift, do Hadriana quest) and still I don't get the option to tell him "Don't go", which really doesn't bode well...

The worst part is I ended the romance with all the other characters thinking this one was going to happen.


I think (and I don't know this for sure) that if you have romances with other characters active at any time, it kills the completion of the Fenris romance, even if you end it with the others.

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Mel_Redux wrote...

I'm right with you Addai. I'd love to see some DLC that fills in the 3 year time gaps.


I'd like to see some DLC that just fills...

It's Monday.  I'm sorry.  The gutter is extra comfy today.

But yes, I'm really curious about the DLC.  What will it be?  Will we have to wait as long as we did for it like with RTO?

#27525
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Ok, let me get this straight.

Act 2...FLIRT! Get Aveline's quest, take Fen with you, trigger HIS quest, then flirt more to get things started? I'm in act two high on the friend scale, and he has GOT to do something besides smile all sexy like...
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Because Anders is doing that sad puppy "i need somewhere safer to stay" thing, and it's really hard to resist him.

They really want you to romance Anders...*glares*