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[Dunizel]

ejoslin wrote...


 He says nothing about when he was a slave.  Denarius says something about how skilled he is (and it seems like he's talking about sex), but my mind goes in ick places apparently.

Well, apparently I have a dirty and angst mind too, because honestly when Danarius said thet he sensed some "jealousy" because Fenris was "skilled"...I thought about it too. Why would he bring up the jealousy if there wasn't any sex involved? I just hated him all the more and felt sorry for Fenris. Somehow a bit proud too of him...his life as a slave was a complete torment, and still he resisted. 

[TheComfyCat]

ejoslin wrote...

I didn't even get that he was saying he was a virgin, though.  I thought he was talking about love and letting people get close.  What he says is he has no memories of before, and that he hadn't had sex with anyone since he was escaoed.  He says nothing about when he was a slave.  Denarius says something about how skilled he is (and it seems like he's talking about sex), but my mind goes in ick places apparently.

However, it's not implied that Fenris and Isabela have sex -- it's stated outright.  They had sex, and they're making plans to do it again.  I got the banter, though, after my Hawke went from Fenris to Anders.  Fenris was still wearing the scarf!  I don't know if you get it if he wasn't with Hawke first.

Lol, wow, that's a pretty awesome banter. When does it occur? I remember Isabela flirting with Fenris at the begining of Act 2 when you go talk to him at his mansion. I guess she persues him if Hawke doesn't start a romance with him, or if Hawke chooses to persue one with someone else?

And I also thought that Danarius was talking about sex. Jerk.

ejoslin wrote...

DemonSaya wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

Wanted to ask this for a while now so I hope you guys give your opinions.

In Fenris forgiveness talk, in the flirt option Hawke says "Whereever it leads, I hope it means we stay together."

Am I the only one who thought it was pretty freaking brave of Hawke to say that? They had been essentially broken up for 3 years and Hawke had no real way of knowing that Fenris still felt that way about her/him like the player controlling Hawke would.

I personally was shocked the first time I heard it and rewatching the scene it still makes me frown at times. Just seems to sound unbelievable to me. I'd be a total mess if we'd been broken up for 3 years.

It never seemed off in my other playthroughs.  Then again, I always did 'All that Remains' after Fenris left my Hawke at the end of 'The Bitter Pill'.  He shows up and trys to comfort her, so that kinda said to me that they stepped back onto ground that was comfortable for him.  That's how it seemed to me, anyways.  Then again, sometimes men wont discuss something bothering them for years, anyways...That would be the voice of experience piping in there...>.>;

This is how I see it as well.  They're back together, but in a more comfortable space.  This is
further reinforced by the encounter with Zevran (I got that before that discussion) where Fenris is jealous.  Plus, his ambient comment even before then is, "I remain by your side."

You got the jealous reaction when you did Zevran's quest before getting back together with Fenris in Act 3? When I did Zev's quest, my Hawke was with Fenris, and he never commented on Hawke flirting with Zevran...

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 15 mars 2011 - 11:40 .

[TheLiterator]

Bluumberry wrote...

TheLiterator wrote...

I knew you had posted the list, but couldn't find it for the life of me... maybe 0524 is bedtime for Lit.

Hehe silly time zones. 13:28 here.

Indeed.

I don't know if I'll end up sleeping though, or just laying in bed until the house wakes up and then going down to redo the deep roads so that Fenris can get kidnapped in the Best Left Cold line. I only just finished them, so it's not THAT much backtracking, right?

[ejoslin]

senorfuzzylips wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I didn't even get that he was saying he was a virgin, though.  I thought he was talking about love and letting people get close.  What he says is he has no memories of before, and that he hadn't had sex with anyone since he was escaoed.  He says nothing about when he was a slave.  Denarius says something about how skilled he is (and it seems like he's talking about sex), but my mind goes in ick places apparently.

However, it's not implied that Fenris and Isabela have sex -- it's stated outright.  They had sex, and they're making plans to do it again.  I got the banter, though, after my Hawke went from Fenris to Anders.  Fenris was still wearing the scarf!  I don't know if you get it if he wasn't with Hawke first.

Lol, wow, that's a pretty awesome banter. When does it occur? I remember Isabela flirting with Fenris at the begining of Act 2 when you go talk to him at his mansion. I guess she persues him if Hawke doesn't start a romance with him, or if Hawke chooses to persue one with someone else?

And I also thought that Danarius was talking about sex. Jerk.

ejoslin wrote...

This is how I see it as well.  They're back together, but in a more comfortable space.  This is
further reinforced by the encounter with Zevran (I got that before that discussion) where Fenris is jealous.  Plus, his ambient comment even before then is, "I remain by your side."

You got the jealous reaction when you did Zevran's quest before getting back together with Fenris in Act 3? When I did Zev's quest, my Hawke was with Fenris, and he never commented on Hawke flirting with Zevran...

I got the Isabela/Fenris banter in act 3 my second playthrough.  I wanted to do Anders romance, so I romanced Fenris, then when he left, moved onto Anders.  It was worth it for the banters -- there are quite a few, though.  I got that one, I got a couple between Anders and Fenris, including one where Fenris threatened to kill Anders if he breaks her heart, and I got the Merrill one talking about how he's in love (I felt like such a heel).

I got Fenris' jealous reaction, yes, on my first playthrough where when he left, she didn't romance anyone else (I couldn't romance Anders as his approval was off, and I'm not going to see the female romances for awhile).   Meeting Zevran was the first thing I did in act 3 (you can't be surprised about that) and Fenris threatened Zev. I don't think you'll get it at all if you have Isabela in the party, however.

Modifié par ejoslin, 15 mars 2011 - 11:44 .

[Dunizel]

Contributing with a Varric/Fenris banter. I got it in Act3, after Hawke and Fen made up.

Varric "So, about you and Hawke." 
Fenris "What about us?"
Varric "Want to make sure I get all the details right when I tell this story."
Varric "Did you sweep her off her feet? Or was it the other way around?"
Fenris "I'm not telling you anything but this: There was no actual sweeping involved."
Varric "Every little bit helps, elf."


Speaking about Denarius, here is a happy moment

[Dunizel]

ejoslin wrote...

 Meeting Zevran was the first thing I did in act 3 (you can't be surprised about that) and Fenris threatened Zev. I don't think you'll get it at all if you have Isabela in the party, however.

Confirmed, after many tries. I posted some screens of Fenris and Anders reaction when Isabela walks away with Zev in the previous page. (here: http://social.biowar...39/1120#6560843 )  xD

Modifié par Dunizel, 15 mars 2011 - 11:55 .

[TheComfyCat]

Ah, I did have Isabela in my party, so perhaps that dialogue indeed took precedence.

It was nice to see Zev again, though I was sad that there wasn't really a mention of his relationship with the Warden, especially considering some of the things Isabela says

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 15 mars 2011 - 11:57 .

[Bluumberry]

Dunizel wrote...

Contributing with a Varric/Fenris banter. I got it in Act3, after Hawke and Fen made up.

Varric "So, about you and Hawke." 
Fenris "What about us?"
Varric "Want to make sure I get all the details right when I tell this story."
Varric "Did you sweep her off her feet? Or was it the other way around?"
Fenris "I'm not telling you anything but this: There was no actual sweeping involved."
Varric "Every little bit helps, elf."

If Hawke is male Varric says something like "no need to ask who did the sweeping" think he says something about height differences if I remember right.

[Mresa]

 I finally got to see the up against the wall hot stuff!!
It was glorious.
Then I was sad when Fenris left. I've read about this ribbon stuff, just when it exactly is there tied to his hand?

[tankgirly]

I just came across something about Fenris joking about collaborating in his mansion at his free time, Varric remarked the Chantry should put it down on the calendar, saying it was the first time Fenris actually joked. Heheh

@Mresa, I got it right after Hawkette slept with him...<3

Modifié par tankgirly, 15 mars 2011 - 12:02 .

[ejoslin]

Mresa wrote...

 I finally got to see the up against the wall hot stuff!!
It was glorious.
Then I was sad when Fenris left. I've read about this ribbon stuff, just when it exactly is there tied to his hand?

I think just after Hadriana.  There are two variations of the sexytime that happens after that.  If he leaves the first time without having sex, he's already wearing the ribbon the second time he comes over.

Edit: I thought it was tied to the sexytime as well -- I was surprised he was wearing it before that!

Modifié par ejoslin, 15 mars 2011 - 12:31 .

[virgin stitch]

I could use some help from those in the know.

I foolishly did not reload every time I got Rivalry points with Fenris, but am about 85% to full friendship with him. I have already completed Alone. I still need to drum up another 15-20 points of friendship to get to 100% and am having trouble doing so. I know that his last gift will give him 15 Positive, but can anyone just give me a place or two I can grab a few other +5 Friendship points just to make sure I safely get him to 100% before there are no other chances?

Thank you!

(Oh and I am playing a male rogue, if that is necessary.)

[Dunizel]

tankgirly wrote...

I just came across something about Fenris joking about collaborating in his mansion at his free time, Varric remarked the Chantry should put it down on the calendar, saying it was the first time Fenris actually joked. Heheh

@Mresa, I got it right after Hawkette slept with him...<3

This one?  Although without voices it doesn't make it justice...

Varric: So what do you do in that gigantic house all day?
Fenris: Dance, of course
Varric: Really?
Fenris: I run from room to room, choreographing routines.
Varric: Huh, you're actually joking! Alert the Chantry! They need to put this on the calendar.
Fenris: And you thought I was always serious

Apparently, Fenris doesn't like fish...or the smell of it, who knows! I got this in Act3, Gamlen's questline

Modifié par Dunizel, 15 mars 2011 - 01:07 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

senorfuzzylips wrote...

You got the jealous reaction when you did Zevran's quest before getting back together with Fenris in Act 3? When I did Zev's quest, my Hawke was with Fenris, and he never commented on Hawke flirting with Zevran...

I got it then too. My Hawke wanted to give him a stern look for getting so possessive over her three years after he broke up with her, but then again she was just flirting with Zev to make him jealous anyway.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 15 mars 2011 - 01:04 .

[TheComfyCat]

ejoslin wrote...

Mresa wrote...

 I finally got to see the up against the wall hot stuff!!
It was glorious.
Then I was sad when Fenris left. I've read about this ribbon stuff, just when it exactly is there tied to his hand?

I think just after Hadriana.  There are two variations of the sexytime that happens after that.  If he leaves the first time without having sex, he's already wearing the ribbon the second time he comes over.

Edit: I thought it was tied to the sexytime as well -- I was surprised he was wearing it before that!

Lol I didn't even notice there were two variations... I used the <3 option that initiates the romance scene right after "A Bitter Pill," which gave me the glowing kiss sequence (he pushes her against the wall, then she turns them around and pushes him).

I reloaded and let him leave, and then went back to the mansion at night to check out the other scene. Although there's a couple of extra lines of dialogue (yum), I didn't think the kiss was quite as passionate.

@Aris Ravenstar: My Hawke was also flirting to make Fen jealous, so I was sad that he didn't say anything about it. Then I reloaded and took Isabela out of the party to hear the line (I thought he'd say something in the caves, but didn't until Zevran outright propositioned Hawke on the beach at the end of the quest, for those wondering). Good stuff

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 15 mars 2011 - 01:30 .

[Thestral]

Ah hey is there a video of the Zev/Fenris jealous reaction thing anywhere? :]

[ejoslin]

Thestral wrote...

Ah hey is there a video of the Zev/Fenris jealous reaction thing anywhere? :]

I don't know, but I'm just about at that point.  I can get a youtube video up later if you don't find anything before then.

[Heidenreich]

I'm so irritated. I reloaded my play through and lost my save at the start of act 2, and I can't get Zev to come to bed with me! It jumps right to his Questioning Beliefs and sticks me in a friendship with him reguardless of what I do or say

I had to restart, much to the annoyance of my husband, who wants to kill me for 3 playthroughs in a week >.>

[ejoslin]

Heidenreich wrote...

I'm so irritated. I reloaded my play through and lost my save at the start of act 2, and I can't get Zev to come to bed with me! It jumps right to his Questioning Beliefs and sticks me in a friendship with him reguardless of what I do or say

I had to restart, much to the annoyance of my husband, who wants to kill me for 3 playthroughs in a week >.>

You know, I think of Fenris as a bit like Zevran as well.  Angsty, sexy elves with amazing voices, both of them.

An interesting aside...  One of Fenris' ambient comments after things are settled between him and Hawke is "I am yours."  That made me start.

[Ramante]

Finally reached act 2.. only to notice that I miss the gloves in my Spiral Eye (?) armor set. Argh! I'm actually considering loading a previous save just to buy them. ><

In act 2 is there any specific order in which I must do things? I read something about encountering the slavers outside Kirkwall and of course the conversations at his house and his personal quest..

@ejoslin, I'm really not surprised you turned into a Fenris fangirl.

[Bluumberry]

Ramante wrote...

Finally reached act 2.. only to notice that I miss the gloves in my Spiral Eye (?) armor set. Argh! I'm actually considering loading a previous save just to buy them. ><

In act 2 is there any specific order in which I must do things? I read something about encountering the slavers outside Kirkwall and of course the conversations at his house and his personal quest..

@ejoslin, I'm really not surprised you turned into a Fenris fangirl.

You should have gotten the gloves if you did side quests in Act 1 automatically, can't remember which one gives them speficially though.

There's no real order to do things, but I'd suggest getting Fenris to 50% friendship or rivalry before doing his personal quest. Also would recommend doing both of those before doing Ander's personal quest.

Otherwise I wouldn't say things matter much.

[Erani]

ejoslin wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

I'm so irritated. I reloaded my play through and lost my save at the start of act 2, and I can't get Zev to come to bed with me! It jumps right to his Questioning Beliefs and sticks me in a friendship with him reguardless of what I do or say

I had to restart, much to the annoyance of my husband, who wants to kill me for 3 playthroughs in a week >.>

You know, I think of Fenris as a bit like Zevran as well.  Angsty, sexy elves with amazing voices, both of them.

An interesting aside...  One of Fenris' ambient comments after things are settled between him and Hawke is "I am yours."  That made me start.

Yes, that made me go all . Fenris is so passionate.
Also, I romanced Fenris in my first playthrough and had Isabela in my party all the time, and didn't get the "they had sex and gonna do it again tonight" banter between Isabela and Fenris, so they only do it if Fenris is not in romance with Hawke or Hawke didn't move on to another LI?

[ejoslin]

Erani wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

I'm so irritated. I reloaded my play through and lost my save at the start of act 2, and I can't get Zev to come to bed with me! It jumps right to his Questioning Beliefs and sticks me in a friendship with him reguardless of what I do or say

I had to restart, much to the annoyance of my husband, who wants to kill me for 3 playthroughs in a week >.>

You know, I think of Fenris as a bit like Zevran as well.  Angsty, sexy elves with amazing voices, both of them.

An interesting aside...  One of Fenris' ambient comments after things are settled between him and Hawke is "I am yours."  That made me start.

Yes, that made me go all . Fenris is so passionate.
Also, I romanced Fenris in my first playthrough and had Isabela in my party all the time, and didn't get the "they had sex and gonna do it again tonight" banter between Isabela and Fenris, so they only do it if Fenris is not in romance with Hawke or Hawke didn't move on to another LI?

I konw they do it if Hawke moves onto someone else.  I don't know if they do it if Hawke and Fenris never have sex.  I adore Isabela I have to admit.  She is my b!tchy hawke's bff.

Modifié par ejoslin, 15 mars 2011 - 02:28 .

[Dunhart]

What's the best way to handle Fenris' Alone quest in Act 3? I'm desperately trying to get his friendship up before the end of the game (He and Merril are the last ones below 100 %), but I don't think encouraging murder is the best way to be a good friend.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Question for you guys.
When is the Fenris romance complete? I know the romance with Anders is complete when you agree to run away with him when he blows up the chantry -inwardly curses Anders-, but does the Fenris romance complete when you forgive him?

Also, one last question. Does the armor change for your party members? Anders went from robes with feathered shoulders to the "Renegade Coat" after I helped him gather ingredients.