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 ( Isabela first just took him for a shag so I had to reload ).

I've been hearing about this. What is this? A scene or banter? How is it triggered?

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I got Merrill's banter when my Hawke moved on to Anders.  I felt like crap when I heard that.  Then Fenris threatned Anders, telling him he better treat Hawke right, so I started to get helpful.  Then Isbela and him talked about hooking up and my hopes were crushed!

Sad days, that one :(

Edit: Truthfully, after hearing Fenris tell Anders he better treat Hawke right, I am not sure I could romance anyone else.  It's just such an amazing banter. 


you should feel like crap. you were the first one to ever get down to his vulnerable side, and even if it WAS his own foolishness that pushed you away, he feels betrayed.  he'll probably never let anyone close again.  isabela doesnt count cuz the betrayal aspect probably sucked out any emotional side to the act. so it was no longer intimacy, it was "just rutting" :P

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maselphie wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

 ( Isabela first just took him for a shag so I had to reload ).

I've been hearing about this. What is this? A scene or banter? How is it triggered?


Save Zev. Go back to the camp with Isabela. Isabela will shag him before he leaves. I got a little jealous. Isabela gets all the shags...

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@Batorific, everyone noticed that somehow. Merrill and Varric just teased Fenris non-stop. Not sure about Issie as she left in Act II in my playthrough. Even Aveline mentioned that to Hawk during the relationship chat (when she was courting Donic). Anders? He had a unique cutscene questioning what did Hawk see in Fenris XD.


Hmm, I've never gotten Varric to tease Fenris about Hawke. Merrill's is cute though, puppy eyes! Hehehe.

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ejoslin wrote...

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Fenris didn't really end the relationship. He just...couldn't sleep with Hawke again after those memories teased him like that. He still loves Hawke, but couldn't let himself get THAT close to him/her again without that fear of the memories flicking in and out of his mind once more.

Another thing, Fenris will step in and threaten Zevran if he propositions Hawke. So either it's super creepy, or they're together, but yes, not intimate (that makes a lot of sense, actually).

Yes, I can live with that for my head canon!

*eee's at having come up with a theory that makes actual sense* Cause you could tell how much it hurt him to walk away after that night, knowing he might never be intimate with Hawke again. I'm sure in the ensuing 3 years, they spent plenty of time with each other, while Hawke taught him to read, and he taught Hawke Tevinter.

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Thanks, UltiPup!

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SurrealSadi wrote...

and he taught Hawke Tevinter.


Wait wat where when?

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Batorific wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

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My head canon says Fenris closed off. There were probably small moments, but, as we seemed to say earlier, the emotions involving Hawke were serious triggers, so he was busy dealing with that. But the red scarf had to happen at some point, so there must have been something.


The scarf appeared immediately after you guys had the one night together. I loved that he was still THERE when she woke up by the way.  Like he couldn't just leave without saying SOMETHING to her.


just to add to this bit, you also keep in mind that even in Act 3, the characters THINK you are involved with Fenris still.  remember what Anders says to you when you start his personal quest.

so i imagine that Hawke and Fenris must have stayed pretty damn close.  Just in the awkward sort of shameful way. 


Anders didn't say crap to me on his personal quest, it just started with go find me these three stupid things for my "potion":mellow:

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Batorific wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I got Merrill's banter when my Hawke moved on to Anders.  I felt like crap when I heard that.  Then Fenris threatned Anders, telling him he better treat Hawke right, so I started to get helpful.  Then Isbela and him talked about hooking up and my hopes were crushed!

Sad days, that one :(

Edit: Truthfully, after hearing Fenris tell Anders he better treat Hawke right, I am not sure I could romance anyone else.  It's just such an amazing banter. 


you should feel like crap. you were the first one to ever get down to his vulnerable side, and even if it WAS his own foolishness that pushed you away, he feels betrayed.  he'll probably never let anyone close again.  isabela doesnt count cuz the betrayal aspect probably sucked out any emotional side to the act. so it was no longer intimacy, it was "just rutting" :P


Awww, it was my second playthrough, and I wanted to see what Anders' romance was like.  And since I already knew the friendship romance with Fenris, it made it that much worse.

Funny how different the rivalmance seemed to me.  The friendmance was so so sweet, and the rivalmance was just so tense.  I loved them both.  I'm doing a friendmance again with him, but you know, I kind of miss the fighting!

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Lady Jess wrote...

Batorific wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

My head canon says Fenris closed off. There were probably small moments, but, as we seemed to say earlier, the emotions involving Hawke were serious triggers, so he was busy dealing with that. But the red scarf had to happen at some point, so there must have been something.


The scarf appeared immediately after you guys had the one night together. I loved that he was still THERE when she woke up by the way.  Like he couldn't just leave without saying SOMETHING to her.


just to add to this bit, you also keep in mind that even in Act 3, the characters THINK you are involved with Fenris still.  remember what Anders says to you when you start his personal quest.

so i imagine that Hawke and Fenris must have stayed pretty damn close.  Just in the awkward sort of shameful way. 


Anders didn't say crap to me on his personal quest, it just started with go find me these three stupid things for my "potion":mellow:


Didn't he confront you in the sewers about it? Asking you what you saw in him and saying he was more like a dog than a man?

Modifié par ejoslin, 18 mars 2011 - 02:15 .


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If you take Anders with you when you go hunting for ... uhh... human crap in darktown then he'll ask you about Fenris. I had to take Anders for that quest cuz I wasn't touching the stuff. If he wants it, he can collect it his damn self. I'll just kill the bad guys for xp's and loot, lol.

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tankgirly wrote...

Guides.

No one bought strategy guides? My EB had them at the most obvious spot in the store. I saw it the minute I walked in. Collector's edition. Lovely illustrations! They offered tips without giving too much away!

Damn useful when it comes to the Fade quest.

Tank


I just ordered a CE version of it for my bookshelf it came late last evening. Very pretty.

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ejoslin wrote...

Didn't he confront you in the sewers about it? Asking you what you saw in him and saying he was more like a dog than a man?


Ah no, I haven't gone down there yet. Maybe I'll wait til theres a slap Anders mod...

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Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

and he taught Hawke Tevinter.


Wait wat where when?

lol. I'm assuming that during the three years between Act 2 and 3, that instead of ending up in bed together, Hawke and Fen would stay up at night, and teach each other things. If you give Fen the Book of Shartan, he mentions he can't read and Hawke can offer to teach him to read. So, I assume that while Hawke does that, Fen teaches him/her Tevinter.

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Awww, it was my second playthrough, and I wanted to see what Anders' romance was like.  And since I already knew the friendship romance with Fenris, it made it that much worse.

Funny how different the rivalmance seemed to me.  The friendmance was so so sweet, and the rivalmance was just so tense.  I loved them both.  I'm doing a friendmance again with him, but you know, I kind of miss the fighting!


i prefer friendmance simply because you already see his combative side so much. its refreshing to see his super sweet side.

my only gripe with the entire romance was a lack of recognition that Fenris and Hawke get back together. no additional banters, no altered situations. it wouldn't be so bad if the final personal quest couldn't be done soon as you start the act, and thus, rekindle the romance immediately.

i have trouble switching to anders.  the way he goes after hawke just creeps me out.  o.o  like he only does it out of jealousy. or when i play mages he gives off the huge "omg youre a mage too? were soulmates!" even when i treat him as terrible as i can.

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I don't bother with buying guides anymore. Only good game guide I've ever bought was for Oblivion. Now that's a damn good guide right there.

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SurrealSadi wrote...

Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

and he taught Hawke Tevinter.


Wait wat where when?

lol. I'm assuming that during the three years between Act 2 and 3, that instead of ending up in bed together, Hawke and Fen would stay up at night, and teach each other things. If you give Fen the Book of Shartan, he mentions he can't read and Hawke can offer to teach him to read. So, I assume that while Hawke does that, Fen teaches him/her Tevinter.


OH okay. Haha, I thought it was something in-game and I began frothing: "HOW DID I MISS THIS RAGHGHGHGHOAjfefjklj." That'd make sense. Cute, too. :wizard:

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Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

and he taught Hawke Tevinter.


Wait wat where when?

lol. I'm assuming that during the three years between Act 2 and 3, that instead of ending up in bed together, Hawke and Fen would stay up at night, and teach each other things. If you give Fen the Book of Shartan, he mentions he can't read and Hawke can offer to teach him to read. So, I assume that while Hawke does that, Fen teaches him/her Tevinter.


OH okay. Haha, I thought it was something in-game and I began frothing: "HOW DID I MISS THIS RAGHGHGHGHOAjfefjklj." That'd make sense. Cute, too. :wizard:

Hehehe. It would be cute to see Fen teaching Hawke to swear in Tevinter.

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Woohoo!!! Who wants to see Fenris in his...underpants? Ok i sound crazy...

Sadly his body model does not have the lyrium brands we wanted to see...
Image IPB



where did you find this???


*squeed so loud annnoying next door neighbor*

Hooray for mods! Dammit, if only my computer had a better graphics card Image IPB

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hahaha~ this response is gold. I guess the last one I bang will be Fenris. Poor Lady Hawke!!! Three years!?!


My Lady Hawke had frequent visits to the Blooming Rose. For elven ~*prostitutes*~, since we apparently can't say ****.


haha~ I have yet to check that place out but I will have to have my mage try it out. Like seriously! Stupid Fenris!!


And see I guess I never saw the Alistair romance as tragic because I was HNF....from my view it's actually quite brilliant. Not so good if you don't meet those requirements though~

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ZodiacLullaby wrote...

vampireassassin wrote...

ankuu wrote...

Woohoo!!! Who wants to see Fenris in his...underpants? Ok i sound crazy...

Sadly his body model does not have the lyrium brands we wanted to see...
Image IPB



where did you find this???


*squeed so loud annnoying next door neighbor*

Hooray for mods! Dammit, if only my computer had a better graphics card Image IPB


Where is this mod???

#28922
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Batorific wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Awww, it was my second playthrough, and I wanted to see what Anders' romance was like.  And since I already knew the friendship romance with Fenris, it made it that much worse.

Funny how different the rivalmance seemed to me.  The friendmance was so so sweet, and the rivalmance was just so tense.  I loved them both.  I'm doing a friendmance again with him, but you know, I kind of miss the fighting!


i prefer friendmance simply because you already see his combative side so much. its refreshing to see his super sweet side.

my only gripe with the entire romance was a lack of recognition that Fenris and Hawke get back together. no additional banters, no altered situations. it wouldn't be so bad if the final personal quest couldn't be done soon as you start the act, and thus, rekindle the romance immediately.

i have trouble switching to anders.  the way he goes after hawke just creeps me out.  o.o  like he only does it out of jealousy. or when i play mages he gives off the huge "omg youre a mage too? were soulmates!" even when i treat him as terrible as i can.


As was brought up earlier, it isn't exactly confirmed they break up completely either, just that they quit sleeping together. So they may be having a relationship, just without the physical, or you can just rp it that way. Theres definitely confirmation they get back together, Fenris says he can't imagine living without her right before he kisses her again.

#28923
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Anders: I can't imagine what Hawke sees in you.
Fenris: It is done. Leave it be.
Anders: Well, good. I always knew she/he had some sense.
Fenris: Do not make light of this. Leaving was the hardest thing I've ever done.


I always thought he left, like, in all the sense.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Batorific wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Awww, it was my second playthrough, and I wanted to see what Anders' romance was like.  And since I already knew the friendship romance with Fenris, it made it that much worse.

Funny how different the rivalmance seemed to me.  The friendmance was so so sweet, and the rivalmance was just so tense.  I loved them both.  I'm doing a friendmance again with him, but you know, I kind of miss the fighting!


i prefer friendmance simply because you already see his combative side so much. its refreshing to see his super sweet side.

my only gripe with the entire romance was a lack of recognition that Fenris and Hawke get back together. no additional banters, no altered situations. it wouldn't be so bad if the final personal quest couldn't be done soon as you start the act, and thus, rekindle the romance immediately.

i have trouble switching to anders.  the way he goes after hawke just creeps me out.  o.o  like he only does it out of jealousy. or when i play mages he gives off the huge "omg youre a mage too? were soulmates!" even when i treat him as terrible as i can.


As was brought up earlier, it isn't exactly confirmed they break up completely either, just that they quit sleeping together. So they may be having a relationship, just without the physical, or you can just rp it that way. Theres definitely confirmation they get back together, Fenris says he can't imagine living without her right before he kisses her again.

I love how sweet Fen is in a friend-mance...  and hearing Gideon Emery's voice say some of those lines makes me melt.... *sexy voice is sexy*

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Lady Jess wrote...

As was brought up earlier, it isn't exactly confirmed they break up completely either, just that they quit sleeping together. So they may be having a relationship, just without the physical, or you can just rp it that way. Theres definitely confirmation they get back together, Fenris says he can't imagine living without her right before he kisses her again.


oh im not saying there wasnt confirmation between them. i'm just saying there's certain dialogues (banters and the anders confrontation) MEANT for when theyre "broken up" that still happen after getting back together. its only a very tiny gripe. still easily the best romance i've seen in a game. if only because of how expressive his character can be.

also he DOES say to anders that "it is done". that means they broke up. regardless of the fact they still were more or less a non-physical couple.

Modifié par Batorific, 18 mars 2011 - 02:45 .