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[SurrealSadi]

If we're playing Hawke again, I hope so... though knowing BW, they'll do an expansion with Hawke, and they give us a 'returning beloved companion', like Awakening, and it'll be Isabela. >.>

[Fenn_]

So why do some people think Fenris is emo? He just does not seem that way to me.

[SurrealSadi]

He's broody. To most people, that equals emo.

[Mentatzoee]

Maybe it's because of the bangs.

Also, there's people with cool-aversion. They might judge him just because he's got a really charming appearance, somewhat anti-hero-ish.
I guess.

And Sadi, you just made me think of the connection between Liara and Isabela and I'm starting to worry.

[SurrealSadi]

Liara and 'Bela?

[cin_zia]

well when you side with the templars, she belives that Hawke is the only onw that can restore order. It's diffrent if you run away with Anders?

[Phoenix_Valkyre]

SurrealSadi wrote...

If we're playing Hawke again, I hope so... though knowing BW, they'll do an expansion with Hawke, and they give us a 'returning beloved companion', like Awakening, and it'll be Isabela. >.>

I hope they do an expansion, or DLC with more Fen-tasticness! I can't help but want more of him as a companion.
But seriously, imagine if they made an LI companion DLC just full of the little bits to fill in the years.. If it would be more Fenris loving, I'd be first in line to buy it. 
I just can't get over how well everything was done in DA2, I loved the combat revamp.. its incredible for all three classes. The rune and potion crafting system was a great improvement compared to before...not having to lug around all the materials. I literally pulled a 36hr DA2 marathon when I got because I couldn't pull myself away, I was too intrigued by the story, characters, and gameplay... Bravo Bioware...another masterpiece!<3

[Helen0rz]

Mentatzoee wrote...

I will just leave this here:

(if Fenris is not in a romance with Hawke)

Isabela: That night, I can't stop thinking about it.
Fenris: Well, then I'll see you later.
Isabela: That was direct.
Fenris: I thought I'd get straight to the point. Were you expecting flowers or something?
Isabela: Don't be absurd.
Fenris: Then I'll see you tonight.


--
I can't really say why, but there's something about Isabela I don't like.
Sure, she's fun, but... I guess it's just that I don't like her near Fen. Or Fen near her. XD
This, and that I liked other charas better, for practical/group balance and impractical reasons.

Edit: Thought: "So... you sleep once with Hawke and have to run but can bang over and over Isabela, right? Right."

I just got really grossed out by that.

well...also jealous because um, Fen only freaking sleep with hawke once, why? because he put feeling into it? so... with Isabella it was just a need and want thing, so he's just gonna bang her over and over? AND she's all used up like the freaking public bathroom. ugh. 

[Helen0rz]

Mentatzoee wrote...

If you tell Anders to GTFO and you're with the mages he doesn't show up again?

Anyway... Do you think Fenris will still be a companion in DA3? (Sorry if anything I bring has been discussed before)

no, you can re-recruit him again before the fight actually starts. you know, that part when you can talk to people and complete your romance? he's there, no idea why.

[Mentatzoee]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Liara and 'Bela?

As in being easy to romance (luckily our charas can't get ninjamanced anymore) and looking like one of BW's favourites.
Hell, Isabela was even featured in the trailer that closed the demo. If only Fen had been there!


Anyway, I doubt there'll be dedicated content to just one chara, unless it's a pack that covers all of them, seeing how you can loose almost everyone from your side.

If only they let us know a lil bit more! Ah, I feel like a junkie, lol

[SurrealSadi]

Phoenix_Valkyre wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

If we're playing Hawke again, I hope so... though knowing BW, they'll do an expansion with Hawke, and they give us a 'returning beloved companion', like Awakening, and it'll be Isabela. >.>

I hope they do an expansion, or DLC with more Fen-tasticness! I can't help but want more of him as a companion.
But seriously, imagine if they made an LI companion DLC just full of the little bits to fill in the years.. If it would be more Fenris loving, I'd be first in line to buy it. 
I just can't get over how well everything was done in DA2, I loved the combat revamp.. its incredible for all three classes. The rune and potion crafting system was a great improvement compared to before...not having to lug around all the materials. I literally pulled a 36hr DA2 marathon when I got because I couldn't pull myself away, I was too intrigued by the story, characters, and gameplay... Bravo Bioware...another masterpiece!<3

Yeah, I love the new crafting system, But I keep missing resource points and having to buy them from the Emporium... Thank the Maker for the wikia...

I owe DA2 for my now nocturnal sleep habits... I have been playing DA2 from like 8 pm to like 6, 7, 8, even 9 AM... and sleeping in between... thank everything I have a sleep aid that actually works for me.

I just want more Fen than we get in game... SO long as they keep the same VA... Gideon Emery=<3<3<3

[Mentatzoee]

Helen0rz wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

If you tell Anders to GTFO and you're with the mages he doesn't show up again?

Anyway... Do you think Fenris will still be a companion in DA3? (Sorry if anything I bring has been discussed before)

no, you can re-recruit him again before the fight actually starts. you know, that part when you can talk to people and complete your romance? he's there, no idea why.

Ah, yes. That part. That fantastic "Don't die" and all that. *squees*

Ah well, nite everyone, it's almost 5 am here! Timezone madness!

[SurrealSadi]

Mentatzoee wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Liara and 'Bela?

As in being easy to romance (luckily our charas can't get ninjamanced anymore) and looking like one of BW's favourites.
Hell, Isabela was even featured in the trailer that closed the demo. If only Fen had been there!


Anyway, I doubt there'll be dedicated content to just one chara, unless it's a pack that covers all of them, seeing how you can loose almost everyone from your side.

If only they let us know a lil bit more! Ah, I feel like a junkie, lol

Oh, you mean Leliana??

[tankgirly]

Mentatzoee wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

Okay, I might risk being ignored again and feel "forever alone" one more time, but... XD

Am I the only one who was impressed with Fen's knowledge about the Qunari? About how he defended her/him against the Arishok?

Even with his procedence, I doubt everyone in Tevinter does know the Qunari culture in such depth... Or do they?

He did explained that Tevinter is constantly at war with Qunari. He tend to know their culture to a degree after a while.

But you know, even if you live side by side with a foreign culture (not to speak of war), you tend to know a few things, but not as much as he seems to know.

Why doesn't it say anything about the Fog Warriors on his wiki page? I don't remember any details about them and their relationship (details, I do remember the conversation and such) but there's nothing.

It says that Fen "is knowledgeable of the Qun" though and that he "also states that he is not a follower" but it doesn't mention anything else.

Anyway, it says something that has startled me a bit more. Curiosity killed the cat I guess.

Is it true that if you don't romance him... He and Isabella... Have nasty conversations that lead you to think he'd been doing nasty things?

Gross.

Do feel free to update it, if you like. It's an wiki everyone can edit.

[Mentatzoee]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Phoenix_Valkyre wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

If we're playing Hawke again, I hope so... though knowing BW, they'll do an expansion with Hawke, and they give us a 'returning beloved companion', like Awakening, and it'll be Isabela. >.>

I hope they do an expansion, or DLC with more Fen-tasticness! I can't help but want more of him as a companion.
But seriously, imagine if they made an LI companion DLC just full of the little bits to fill in the years.. If it would be more Fenris loving, I'd be first in line to buy it. 
I just can't get over how well everything was done in DA2, I loved the combat revamp.. its incredible for all three classes. The rune and potion crafting system was a great improvement compared to before...not having to lug around all the materials. I literally pulled a 36hr DA2 marathon when I got because I couldn't pull myself away, I was too intrigued by the story, characters, and gameplay... Bravo Bioware...another masterpiece!<3

Yeah, I love the new crafting system, But I keep missing resource points and having to buy them from the Emporium... Thank the Maker for the wikia...

I owe DA2 for my now nocturnal sleep habits... I have been playing DA2 from like 8 pm to like 6, 7, 8, even 9 AM... and sleeping in between... thank everything I have a sleep aid that actually works for me.

I just want more Fen than we get in game... SO long as they keep the same VA... Gideon Emery=<3<3<3

Sorry for the the doublepost (if no one has posted in-between) -the spirits made me do it, lol- but...
Changing his VA would be a friggin crime.
Btw, is his VA as nice as Garrus'?
I haven't contacted him personally, but it is said in the Garrus thread that he replies in facebook and such.

[TheComfyCat]

It seems to me that Fenris leaves Hawke because he realizes he's in love with him/her, so Fen "banging Bela over and over" says to me it's purely some physical fun. If Hawke isn't in a relationship with either of them, they shouldn't be denied that.

Why be jealous or hate Izzy for that? It seems unlikely to happen in your universe since you'll probably be with Fen every time (if you feel that strongly about it).

Personally, I like Isabela's character. She's funny and strong. And who needs pants (or shoes) anyway?

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 20 mars 2011 - 03:58 .

[Mentatzoee]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Liara and 'Bela?

As in being easy to romance (luckily our charas can't get ninjamanced anymore) and looking like one of BW's favourites.
Hell, Isabela was even featured in the trailer that closed the demo. If only Fen had been there!


Anyway, I doubt there'll be dedicated content to just one chara, unless it's a pack that covers all of them, seeing how you can loose almost everyone from your side.

If only they let us know a lil bit more! Ah, I feel like a junkie, lol

Oh, you mean Leliana??

Ah, no no, I meant ME's Liara. But they actually did the same with Leliana, didn't they?


To keep away from the offtopic-ness, I wouldn't dare editing the wikia... Yet.
I wouldn't like to put up stuff I'm not 200% sure of.
If only we could hack BW's secret archives or something, haha.

[Helen0rz]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Phoenix_Valkyre wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

If we're playing Hawke again, I hope so... though knowing BW, they'll do an expansion with Hawke, and they give us a 'returning beloved companion', like Awakening, and it'll be Isabela. >.>

I hope they do an expansion, or DLC with more Fen-tasticness! I can't help but want more of him as a companion.
But seriously, imagine if they made an LI companion DLC just full of the little bits to fill in the years.. If it would be more Fenris loving, I'd be first in line to buy it. 
I just can't get over how well everything was done in DA2, I loved the combat revamp.. its incredible for all three classes. The rune and potion crafting system was a great improvement compared to before...not having to lug around all the materials. I literally pulled a 36hr DA2 marathon when I got because I couldn't pull myself away, I was too intrigued by the story, characters, and gameplay... Bravo Bioware...another masterpiece!<3

Yeah, I love the new crafting system, But I keep missing resource points and having to buy them from the Emporium... Thank the Maker for the wikia...

I owe DA2 for my now nocturnal sleep habits... I have been playing DA2 from like 8 pm to like 6, 7, 8, even 9 AM... and sleeping in between... thank everything I have a sleep aid that actually works for me.

I just want more Fen than we get in game... SO long as they keep the same VA... Gideon Emery=<3<3<3

Gideon Emery indeed!

speaking of the ingredients/resources from Black Emporium, I'm missing 1 lyrium. that's annoying because I'm in Act 3 and for whatever reason, there are no available resources for me to purchase. What's even more annoying is that I followed multiple guides in this playthrough to make sure I get everything to unlock the Supplier Achievement

Anyone know of an extra lyrium location that's not Sundermount Cavern?

[Batorific]

Helen0rz wrote...

I just got really grossed out by that.

well...also jealous because um, Fen only freaking sleep with hawke once, why? because he put feeling into it? so... with Isabella it was just a need and want thing, so he's just gonna bang her over and over? AND she's all used up like the freaking public bathroom. ugh.

okay im just gonna have to step in and defend Isabela. she is nowhere near as loose as people think she is. yes, she has sex for fun... but only with friends. i think shes made that clear.  she DOES have standards.

why is it SO bad that she sleeps with Fenris? by Act 3, they are really good close friends. they know eachother and they get along well.  They are best buds, pretty much.  Two adults CAN have a sexual fun ride without feelings getting involved.

Fenris doesnt leave hawke because of the sex.  If it was just that he would have just said "no touching".  What triggered his memories was having a deep emotional connection to another person for the first time in his free life.  Of course, in this case, the catalyst of that deep emotional connection was the sex, or probably the aftermath of sex. 

If he was already freaking out during the act, i doubt we would have been waking up some hours later to Fenris in front of the fireplace.  Clearly he was flooded with memories as they lay in bed together. that's why he freaked out.

When Fenris says he hasnt had anyone before, he's saying it in a clear romantic way.  He's saying he's never been emotionally close to anyone before.  Of course that does go hand in hand with sex in this case but thats not the focus.

So how can such a guarded person sleep with isabela?  because she asks for nothing.  even the conversation proves that.  the aversion to being touched is much more an emotional thing than a pain thing.  the tattoos hurt regardless.



sorry for the rant.

[Ryzaki]

I have to admit annoyance at the being able to sleep with Izzy multiple times but turning tail and running with Hawke thing too.

I mean rivalry! Hawke could've been done with just it being physical. A three year dry spell was just ridiculous.
I don't care that he slept with Izzy. I care that he turns tail and runs with Hawke who then says nothing for three years. 

And then the game tries to make me feel bad for going to Anders after I got dumped and had Hawke accept it like a mute. Bleh. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 mars 2011 - 04:05 .

[SurrealSadi]

Mentatzoee wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Liara and 'Bela?

As in being easy to romance (luckily our charas can't get ninjamanced anymore) and looking like one of BW's favourites.
Hell, Isabela was even featured in the trailer that closed the demo. If only Fen had been there!


Anyway, I doubt there'll be dedicated content to just one chara, unless it's a pack that covers all of them, seeing how you can loose almost everyone from your side.

If only they let us know a lil bit more! Ah, I feel like a junkie, lol

Oh, you mean Leliana??

Ah, no no, I meant ME's Liara. But they actually did the same with Leliana, didn't they?


To keep away from the offtopic-ness, I wouldn't dare editing the wikia... Yet.
I wouldn't like to put up stuff I'm not 200% sure of.
If only we could hack BW's secret archives or something, haha.

Ahh. Okay. Never played ME....

I don't dare edit it either.... but it's got good info in it...

[Helen0rz]

Batorific wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

I just got really grossed out by that.

well...also jealous because um, Fen only freaking sleep with hawke once, why? because he put feeling into it? so... with Isabella it was just a need and want thing, so he's just gonna bang her over and over? AND she's all used up like the freaking public bathroom. ugh.

okay im just gonna have to step in and defend Isabela. she is nowhere near as loose as people think she is. yes, she has sex for fun... but only with friends. i think shes made that clear.  she DOES have standards.

why is it SO bad that she sleeps with Fenris? by Act 3, they are really good close friends. they know eachother and they get along well.  They are best buds, pretty much.  Two adults CAN have a sexual fun ride without feelings getting involved.

Fenris doesnt leave hawke because of the sex.  If it was just that he would have just said "no touching".  What triggered his memories was having a deep emotional connection to another person for the first time in his free life.  Of course, in this case, the catalyst of that deep emotional connection was the sex, or probably the aftermath of sex. 

If he was already freaking out during the act, i doubt we would have been waking up some hours later to Fenris in front of the fireplace.  Clearly he was flooded with memories as they lay in bed together. that's why he freaked out.

When Fenris says he hasnt had anyone before, he's saying it in a clear romantic way.  He's saying he's never been emotionally close to anyone before.  Of course that does go hand in hand with sex in this case but thats not the focus.

So how can such a guarded person sleep with isabela?  because she asks for nothing.  even the conversation proves that.  the aversion to being touched is much more an emotional thing than a pain thing.  the tattoos hurt regardless.



sorry for the rant.

I'll remember to bold and underline the word jealous the next time i use it. i'm hating because i'm jealous her in the "multiple times with Fen" part

[Addai]

Mentatzoee wrote...

Edit: Thought: "So... you sleep once with Hawke and have to run but can bang over and over Isabela, right? Right."

But that's because he's not in love with Isabela.  He thinks she's a sl*t, which is also pretty obvious from their banter.

I tend to find it sad to think about because my own personal view of casual sex is that it's empty and unfulfilling, but I know some people are able to find it fun and harmless.  So I'm hoping that's all it is for him, too.  It would be sad if he's using her to try to forget his past, like with the drinking- not that she's the type to mind.

Modifié par Addai67, 20 mars 2011 - 04:09 .

[Batorific]

Helen0rz wrote...

I'll remember to bold and underline the word jealous the next time i use it. i'm hating because i'm jealous her in the "multiple times with Fen" part

sorry if it seemed like an attack. my rant was not aimed solely at you.  the misconceptions about isabela just get a little grating. i dont like her perse, but shes not that bad.

it was also a general response to the topic at hand.

[NinjaCupcake]

Mentatzoee wrote...

I will just leave this here:

(if Fenris is not in a romance with Hawke)

Isabela: That night, I can't stop thinking about it.
Fenris: Well, then I'll see you later.
Isabela: That was direct.
Fenris: I thought I'd get straight to the point. Were you expecting flowers or something?
Isabela: Don't be absurd.
Fenris: Then I'll see you tonight.


--
I can't really say why, but there's something about Isabela I don't like.
Sure, she's fun, but... I guess it's just that I don't like her near Fen. Or Fen near her. XD
This, and that I liked other charas better, for practical/group balance and impractical reasons.

Edit: Thought: "So... you sleep once with Hawke and have to run but can bang over and over Isabela, right? Right."

this killed me a little inside
i rlly cant stand the idea of her around fen >.<
to be honest i never really liked isabella there was just something about her. and when she ditched me with the relic i had enough of her xDD
but this pretty much made me feel...defensive xD
TOO JEALOUS Dx

Modifié par NinjaCupcake, 20 mars 2011 - 04:11 .