Mentatzoee wrote...
I did, and he left either way!
Thing is, I finished Questioning beliefs _while_ having a Bitter Pill active. Might that be it?
In that case I might have to go way back, because at first I wasn't that sure about rivalmancing him and didn't look for it so throughly.
Also, how many romance options are there in Act2's Questioning Beliefs? I just get one heart.
Mentatzoee wrote...
ejoslin wrote...
Mentatzoee wrote...
Sorry if this becomes a double post but I have to ask and can't risk an edit that gets ignored, lol! (why do we care about double post if there's no post count?)
Is the glowing scene friendshipmance-only?
I'm willing to replay act 2 a third time if I can get it in rivalmance.
Somehow I'm not getting ANY love scene in rivalmance.
You can get it in a rivalmance. Just finish Questioning beliefs before a bitter pill.
Edit: The dialog is slightly different in a rivalmance is all.
I did, and he left either way!
Thing is, I finished Questioning beliefs _while_ having a Bitter Pill active. Might that be it?
In that case I might have to go way back, because at first I wasn't that sure about rivalmancing him and didn't look for it so throughly.
Also, how many romance options are there in Act2's Questioning Beliefs? I just get one heart.
Modifié par ejoslin, 23 mars 2011 - 11:56 .
Saslic wrote...
I took that jealous line as Denarius suggesting that Hawke was jealous of his supposed control over Fenris. As in, when Fenris was still enslaved by Denarius, Fenris would do as commanded. Since Hawke referred to Fenris as a free man, it seemed like Denarius thought was a shortcoming on Hawke's part and thus envied the power he had over Fenris.
If that makes any sense. Ugh, I'm having a hard time verbalizing this.
Denarius just oozing creepy doesn't help, but I never thought the dialogue suggested sexual abuse.
Lilunebrium wrote...
Saslic wrote...
I took that jealous line as Denarius suggesting that Hawke was jealous of his supposed control over Fenris. As in, when Fenris was still enslaved by Denarius, Fenris would do as commanded. Since Hawke referred to Fenris as a free man, it seemed like Denarius thought was a shortcoming on Hawke's part and thus envied the power he had over Fenris.
If that makes any sense. Ugh, I'm having a hard time verbalizing this.
Denarius just oozing creepy doesn't help, but I never thought the dialogue suggested sexual abuse.
This. Exactly this. I never got how people seem convinced Fenris was sexually abused. I honestly doubt he would be so open to flirting with Hawke if he was. I couldn't find any in-game reference to it either, considering Danarius' lines can be (if not should be) interpreted the way stated by Saslic.
If anything, Fenris confessing how he hasn't had any sexual encounter as far as he can remember, should be the end of the discussion.
Ah yes. I remember the second one from the time I friendshipmanced him, but it's not coming out this time.ejoslin wrote...
*snips*
No, it shouldn't make a difference at all. You finish a bittle pill second, and that's all that matters. You won't get a kiss until Questioning Beliefs is done, but as long as it is, either kiss is up for grabs, depending on how the conversation after A Bitter Pill goes.
In the conversation, I remember one at the start and one closer to the end.
)
Modifié par Mentatzoee, 24 mars 2011 - 12:01 .
I'm sick of the topic, but he doesn't actually say that, as ejoslin points out. There is nothing definitive either way and no doubt Gaider left it open to interpretation on purpose.Lilunebrium wrote...
This. Exactly this. I never got how people seem convinced Fenris was sexually abused. I honestly doubt he would be so open to flirting with Hawke if he was. I couldn't find any in-game reference to it either, considering Danarius' lines can be (if not should be) interpreted the way stated by Saslic.
If anything, Fenris confessing how he hasn't had any sexual encounter as far as he can remember, should be the end of the discussion.
ejoslin wrote...
Lilunebrium wrote...
Saslic wrote...
I took that jealous line as Denarius suggesting that Hawke was jealous of his supposed control over Fenris. As in, when Fenris was still enslaved by Denarius, Fenris would do as commanded. Since Hawke referred to Fenris as a free man, it seemed like Denarius thought was a shortcoming on Hawke's part and thus envied the power he had over Fenris.
If that makes any sense. Ugh, I'm having a hard time verbalizing this.
Denarius just oozing creepy doesn't help, but I never thought the dialogue suggested sexual abuse.
This. Exactly this. I never got how people seem convinced Fenris was sexually abused. I honestly doubt he would be so open to flirting with Hawke if he was. I couldn't find any in-game reference to it either, considering Danarius' lines can be (if not should be) interpreted the way stated by Saslic.
If anything, Fenris confessing how he hasn't had any sexual encounter as far as he can remember, should be the end of the discussion.
He doesn't say that. What he DOES say is that he has no memories of before he had the markings and hasn't been close to anyone since escaping.
ejoslin wrote...
Lilunebrium wrote...
Saslic wrote...
I took that jealous line as Denarius suggesting that Hawke was jealous of his supposed control over Fenris. As in, when Fenris was still enslaved by Denarius, Fenris would do as commanded. Since Hawke referred to Fenris as a free man, it seemed like Denarius thought was a shortcoming on Hawke's part and thus envied the power he had over Fenris.
If that makes any sense. Ugh, I'm having a hard time verbalizing this.
Denarius just oozing creepy doesn't help, but I never thought the dialogue suggested sexual abuse.
This. Exactly this. I never got how people seem convinced Fenris was sexually abused. I honestly doubt he would be so open to flirting with Hawke if he was. I couldn't find any in-game reference to it either, considering Danarius' lines can be (if not should be) interpreted the way stated by Saslic.
If anything, Fenris confessing how he hasn't had any sexual encounter as far as he can remember, should be the end of the discussion.
He doesn't say that. What he DOES say is that he has no memories of before he had the markings and hasn't been close to anyone since escaping.
ejoslin wrote...
Lilunebrium wrote...
Saslic wrote...
I took that jealous line as Denarius suggesting that Hawke was jealous of his supposed control over Fenris. As in, when Fenris was still enslaved by Denarius, Fenris would do as commanded. Since Hawke referred to Fenris as a free man, it seemed like Denarius thought was a shortcoming on Hawke's part and thus envied the power he had over Fenris.
If that makes any sense. Ugh, I'm having a hard time verbalizing this.
Denarius just oozing creepy doesn't help, but I never thought the dialogue suggested sexual abuse.
This. Exactly this. I never got how people seem convinced Fenris was sexually abused. I honestly doubt he would be so open to flirting with Hawke if he was. I couldn't find any in-game reference to it either, considering Danarius' lines can be (if not should be) interpreted the way stated by Saslic.
If anything, Fenris confessing how he hasn't had any sexual encounter as far as he can remember, should be the end of the discussion.
He doesn't say that. What he DOES say is that he has no memories of before he had the markings and hasn't been close to anyone since escaping.
DemonSaya wrote...
Okay, a 'sexual encounter' and 'unwanted abuse' are different.
DemonSaya wrote...
Varric: Opinions are like testicles. Kick them hard enough, it doesn't matter how many you've got.
Modifié par Lilunebrium, 24 mars 2011 - 12:11 .
DemonSaya wrote...
Varric: Opinions are like testicles. Kick them hard enough, it doesn't matter how many you've got.
Modifié par ejoslin, 24 mars 2011 - 12:12 .
Mentatzoee wrote...
Are you guys serious you're not reading too much into it?
Something tells me that powerful magisters/blood mages like him don't have sexual drive anymore, it's just megalomania.
Helen0rz wrote...
Mentatzoee wrote...
Are you guys serious you're not reading too much into it?
Something tells me that powerful magisters/blood mages like him don't have sexual drive anymore, it's just megalomania.
so he just needs blood...and experiments...which means he's a vampire
got it!
DemonSaya wrote...
Helen0rz wrote...
Mentatzoee wrote...
Are you guys serious you're not reading too much into it?
Something tells me that powerful magisters/blood mages like him don't have sexual drive anymore, it's just megalomania.
so he just needs blood...and experiments...which means he's a vampire
got it!
I'll check if he sparkles before Fenris kills him next time. That way I'll know for certain...
Sorry, bad joke.
Mentatzoee wrote...
Anyway, is there a kind soul that would help me guessing why am I not getting the "I've never been with anyone before" line in my last (rivalry) Questioning Beliefs quest?
I'm just clueless. I hit every heart I saw, I swear!
Modifié par ejoslin, 24 mars 2011 - 12:25 .
DemonSaya wrote...
Helen0rz wrote...
Mentatzoee wrote...
Are you guys serious you're not reading too much into it?
Something tells me that powerful magisters/blood mages like him don't have sexual drive anymore, it's just megalomania.
so he just needs blood...and experiments...which means he's a vampire
got it!
I'll check if he sparkles before Fenris kills him next time. That way I'll know for certain...
Sorry, bad joke.
IKR............... <_<DemonSaya wrote...
Jenova65 wrote...
Honestly, that made me madder than anything............ We were right there supporting him and he turns to blood magic and we have to kill him...... He made Hawke look like a right tool there........... <_<Gr8pillock wrote...
Right? When Orsino turned into an uber monster with Blood Magic, I got supremely pissed. Not a SINGLE pure mage in the GAME! Dang it! Save for my Hawke of course...
You can just hear the Templars laughing their asses off at that one.... ''Oh the irony Hawke. Want some help? No? We'll leave you to sort that one out..''
Ugh, don't remind me. He was also assisting Quentin's research in necromancy, indirectly leading to the kidnapping and death of Hawke's mother. The F***. When I got the special answer in the Pro-Templar playthrough, I nearly went off.
My rogue's tend to be pro-mage until Leandra get's killed, then she turns neutral...I'm looking forward to a particular elf-napping this playthrough. Since I let Grace escape this time, I want to see how that stuff goes down. ESPECIALLY since I made so many pro-mage decisions so far...
Mentatzoee wrote...
*tries to control herself*
*fails*
But does he sparkle? XDDD
(I've got to say in my defense that I've never read/seen anything Twilight related)
I was serious about that though! I doubt Danarius would care for sex. People who's mad about power rarely do, or do they?
Anyway, is there a kind soul that would help me guessing why am I not getting the "I've never been with anyone before" line in my last (rivalry) Questioning Beliefs quest?
I'm just clueless. I hit every heart I saw, I swear!
Modifié par Lilunebrium, 24 mars 2011 - 12:29 .
ejoslin wrote...
Mentatzoee wrote...
Anyway, is there a kind soul that would help me guessing why am I not getting the "I've never been with anyone before" line in my last (rivalry) Questioning Beliefs quest?
I'm just clueless. I hit every heart I saw, I swear!
You had sex with someone else?
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