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[Tamyn]

tankgirly wrote...


He's Davide Gaider's first and finest character creation.

Valen Shadowbreath

He's not David's first. David wrote Viconia and Anomen and Haer'Dalis (and maybe Aerie too) and Aarin Gend before Valen.

 <------ My first BioWare love

Modifié par Tamyn, 22 décembre 2010 - 09:36 .

[Away]

dirtsa90 wrote...

TheSquadette wrote...

I'm still not seeing the "Zevran 2.0" thing here, I think I'm developing rage issues toward it actually. As for "Fen may be bi" I don't remember seeing that back there but I sort of skimmed after a while

I think my post came out a little wrong..(post edit'd) I don't think Fen will be at all like Zev.. what I meant to state was that I wouldn't mind Fen being like Valen (since he was good)

Aww, sorry for being grumpy, it happens some times

I never got to experience Valen, my entire game crashed one day and never came back except in tiny useless spurts, but I'll take peoples words for it.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Tamyn wrote...

ankuu wrote...


Well i was thinking that if you are a mage, he doesn't really like mages...Alistair doesn't marry you unless you are a Cousland.

That's why I suggested earlier that a mage might be the rivalry romance.

Why can't he like mages unless it's in a rivalry way? Why can't a mage proove they're like everybody else but have different abilities?

[Tamyn]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Tamyn wrote...

ankuu wrote...


Well i was thinking that if you are a mage, he doesn't really like mages...Alistair doesn't marry you unless you are a Cousland.

That's why I suggested earlier that a mage might be the rivalry romance.

Why can't he like mages unless it's in a rivalry way? Why can't a mage proove they're like everybody else but have different abilities?

I didn't say he can't. I just said it's a possibility that he hates mages so much that a relationship might be able to develop through anger or something. I'm not sure how the rivalry thing works exactly.

[Thicos]

Sorry, but Fenris looks like a girl in his first screenshot.



And I want hetero, ****** and bi characters.

[Tamyn]

You must know some very androgynous women.

[dirtsa90]

TheSquadette wrote...

dirtsa90 wrote...

TheSquadette wrote...

I'm still not seeing the "Zevran 2.0" thing here, I think I'm developing rage issues toward it actually. As for "Fen may be bi" I don't remember seeing that back there but I sort of skimmed after a while

I think my post came out a little wrong..(post edit'd) I don't think Fen will be at all like Zev.. what I meant to state was that I wouldn't mind Fen being like Valen (since he was good)

Aww, sorry for being grumpy, it happens some times

I never got to experience Valen, my entire game crashed one day and never came back except in tiny useless spurts, but I'll take peoples words for it.

No problem  it is really annoying that people think that if Fen is bi then he is like Zevran.. as if:

Zevrans personality and attitude = the male bi-sexual LI = someone who will hit on you constantly 

[tankgirly]

[quote]Tamyn wrote...

[quote]tankgirly wrote...




He's not David's first. David wrote Viconia and Anomen and Haer'Dalis (and maybe Aerie too) and Aarin Gend before Valen.

 <------ My first BioWare love[/quote]

Wait, isn't HotU come out before BG?

[upsettingshorts]

No.

[CrookedAsylum]

Tamyn wrote...

You must know some very androgynous women.

http://lesbianswholo...ber.tumblr.com/

[tankgirly]

@Upsettingshorts, why, aren't you a man with a few words. Thank you. Yes, BG series came out before NWN series indeed.



I need someone to clarify this, DEV. Which character was David's first creation?

[AlexXIV]

tankgirly wrote...

@Upsettingshorts, why, aren't you a man with a few words. Thank you. Yes, BG series came out before NWN series indeed.

I need someone to clarify this, DEV. Which character was David's first creation?

I think BG was his first RPG. So chances are one of BG 1.

[Dr. Doctor]

Well if Dave is writing Fenris, I hope that he'll come in and be the VA for the magister who's hunting our elven buddy down. That would be great

[shellys639]

I wonder how far back his memory loss goes? For example is he aware of the blight,darkspawn or the archdemon?Who won,whose ruling? does he have a clue about any recent events?Where do his memory start or is it completely wiped?All the way back to childhood?

[Cutlasskiwi]

My first BioWare love is Kivan from Baldur's Gate. Imagine my happiness when a romance mod got made for him. Good times. -feel a need to play though Baldur's Gate again-

[Beerfish]

I believe David has said that his first contributions were to BG2. (If I recall.)

[Ex-Paladin]

Argh! I don't think I've ever felt so impatient for some information about a character like I do with Fenris! of course, all I wanna know if he's LI for Lady Hawke (and only for Lady Hawke )

[tankgirly]

Beerfish wrote...

I believe David has said that his first contributions were to BG2. (If I recall.)

Yeah, I tried to find that interview but the site was down. Damn.

Ex-Paladin wrote...

Argh! I don't think I've ever felt so impatient for some information about a character like I do with Fenris! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie] of course, all I wanna know if he's LI for Lady Hawke (and only for Lady Hawke [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie])

It's actually a lot better. This time last week we were still waiting for Fenris' name and we had nothing but a concept art.

Modifié par tankgirly, 22 décembre 2010 - 10:22 .

[Away]

shellys639 wrote...

I wonder how far back his memory loss goes? For example is he aware of the blight,darkspawn or the archdemon?Who won,whose ruling? does he have a clue about any recent events?Where do his memory start or is it completely wiped?All the way back to childhood?

Well he may very well be unaware of those things anyway as he's almost certainly not from Ferelden in the first place and I doubt slaves keep up on global affairs.

At the moment a few of us are hypthesising it goes something like this;

Pre-slavery/early childhood (possibly a slave anyway) --->Pre-experiments---->Experiments---->Everything after those

anything bolded out is forgotten with the experiments themselves sort of under debate.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

TheSquadette wrote..

Pre-slavery/early childhood (possibly a slave anyway) --->Pre-experiments---->Experiments---->Everything after those

anything bolded out is forgotten with the experiments themselves sort of under debate.

Perhaps the first half of the experiments as well?

[Wynne]

SirOccam wrote...

I really like this idea of Fenris being quiet, reserved, introverted, or even somewhat anti-social. I could easily imagine what he's been through having that effect on someone.

And then it makes the "push you up against the wall" scene that much more...compelling. Sort of like "he may not talk much but when he does he gets right to the point."

I so very much agree. The wall idea isn't the sort of thing that would grab someone like me right away, but I could definitely go for it and find it moving if he's normally reserved and reluctant to express emotion. Which would make
sense for someone like him, as suppressing emotion is a survival trait for a slave. Not showing your contempt or rage keeps you alive and may even gain you an escape attempt.

Like PoisontheCity, I too imagine his humor as being sardonic. It's really very much in his eyes. And like Andferne, I digthe strong silent type. And I find sardonic and reserved to be about 400 billion x sexier than Zevran's attitude. (*guilty face* Sorry, Zev.) 

tankgirly wrote...

His name is Tom Hardy and his voice sounds wonderful. Wonder if it was him?

*SQUEES* OMG the guy who played Eames in Inception? He was GREAT! And come to think of it, his voice is super-sexy... EVIDENCE!

*eye muscle twitches* Seriously. It's like buttery liquid sex. Too bad it's not Welsh, but then again since Fenris is not Dalish and may in fact be Arlathan or something, it won't exactly matter. Who knows what Arlathans sound like?

tankgirly wrote...

*cannot restrain her dreamy, smoky-eyed look and lip-biting* 

Mmm. The Prince. You are brilliant for posting that--a white-haired warrior elf... if he were the inspiration for Fenris, I would be in heaven, because he was EStroGEN briGAAAAAADE BAIT. To the max.

Rowr.

tankgirly wrote...

Could Fenris be Bishop, minus the betrayal bits?

I would be in HEAVEN. I loved Bishop all except for that pesky semi-arbitrary betrayal.

David Gaider wrote...

Well, I think Twilight is far more effective with its romantic elements than most people give it credit for. Granted, it has little else going for it-- but the romance it does well. I find it a fascinating exercise to analyze exactly why that is
(which I do for many romances... thankfully Cori is a giant romance movie buff).

Bleh. I recommend the Vampire Diaries. The book series was written ten years before Twilight and contains the same basic setup, only better. The show is like 20x better than the Twilight movies after the first two episodes (in which they had to establish the main romance.) Plus it's like 20x less creepy because the heroine isn't like a damselly refugee from a camp in Utah who has no idea what feminism is and she is actually sensible about the whole dating a much older dead guy thing being pretty weird, and demands to be treated like an equal rather than patronized and pampered. The setup is just as romantic, just as supernatural, except that it sucks a lot more in the vampire way and sucks a lot less in the sucking way.

I guess Maria's right in that people bag on Twilight too much, but I bag on it because I've seen people worship it and then complain about how the Vampire Diaries "ripped it off" when in fact, if anything, it was entirely the other way around. Sure, the show capitalized on the story because of Twilight, so I grudgingly applaud that, but it's still better in paper and on tv than anything related to Twilight if you ask me (not that anyone did). Ian Somerhalder's Damon is the only vampire character I've liked this much since Spike for God's sake, and I never thought anyone could come close. (Not that TVD is as funny as Whedon's work by any means, but it is still quite fun, particularly when Damon is around.)

I maintain that the Vampire Diaries is what all the Twilight fans were looking for when they picked up Twilight in the first place, but it's rather healthy at the same time. Twilight is a cardboard-crust pizza covered in craploads of oil; you know it's bad for you but you can't resist it. Vampire Diaries is a whole wheat pizza with olive oil and fresh Mediterranean spices with thick, rich waves of tomato sauce and real mozarella--you bite into that sucker and you will never go back. Both are pizzas, but once you've had the latter, the former is only for when you're desperate and there's nothing else available.

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

In legitimacy, she'll actually be considered diplomatic and sweet to the point she's fairly naive (or at least, I'll try to get it as close to that as I can for the first). If you do manage to upset her, she'll like to see you burn.

Now that... is pretty general, but it still reminds me of me. This is how most people read me in real life. I was told recently that I'm too nice, but the moment somebody I like gets hurt (or even somebody I just think has been unjustly treated by someone else), I turn into the terminator.

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I loved Alistair's romance, if only because it took a stereotype and spun it on its head.

Instead of chasing after the virgin girl, you are chasing after the virgin boy  That trope doesn't exist in popular culture unless you are mocking it.

Me, too. I loved that. It NEVER is handled so sensitively or made so real. Not by the longest of longshots, at least not anywhere I've ever seen. It was a wonderful subversion.

I'm a little like PsychoBlonde in that I almost have no patience for that anymore... but Alistair made me want to change that because he was so sweet and endearing. Then he showed his ugly side, and I knew that I would forever both love AND hate Alistair, with never an "or" in sight. *sigh*

leonia42 wrote...

I hope the Isabela relationship isn't too similar to Zevran's in Origins. It felt like, just as you were getting to Zev's core and starting to appreciate him a bit that the dialogue options ran out and there was nothing more to talk about. He's very tragic, but so many Bioware characters are, would have loved to see more added to his romance.

Adjectives that I would expect to be able to apply to Isabela are businesslike, open, crafty, seductive, survivor; something like that. I don't think she'll be Zevlike, but I do think she will be difficult to pin down. I think she'll be a free-spirited piratess and not the type to want to settle down. She may be the type with whom you can either take the same tack and show an equally free spirit with, or the sort of girl who could sing this song, where she struggles with feelings she doesn't entirely trust and ends up possibly resolving herself to the fact that she's fallen for someone who's much sweeter than she is. That could be pretty cool, too.

Fenris... I really don't know. Oddly, I am looking forward to discovering him and I fully expect to like what I find.

Well, to bed for me. Last class before exams is tomorrow; then I can catch up on the pages past 100 that I didn't get the chance to read yet! *wipes sweat from brow* Damn, but we folks are prolific.

Modifié par Wynne, 22 décembre 2010 - 10:32 .

[AlexXIV]

Maybe he even forgot where he put his sword and we have to go looking for it.

[tankgirly]

@Wynne, lots of catch up, yes?



I thought no one like Tom's voice, nor interested in Prince Nuada and was down for a little while. Thank you. It certainly cheer me up a bit, in the mist of all the RL Christmas stress.

[Thestral]

Ex-Paladin wrote...

Argh! I don't think I've ever felt so impatient for some information about a character like I do with Fenris! of course, all I wanna know if he's LI for Lady Hawke (and only for Lady Hawke )

I don't mind if he's a/the bi male LI - I don't see what difference it makes.

[Ex-Paladin]

Thestral wrote...

Ex-Paladin wrote...

Argh! I don't think I've ever felt so impatient for some information about a character like I do with Fenris! of course, all I wanna know if he's LI for Lady Hawke (and only for Lady Hawke )

I don't mind if he's a/the bi male LI - I don't see what difference it makes.

Its probably because we already had a bi elf. It would just be nice if Fenris was straight up female LI only