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[upsettingshorts]

Yeah but Fenris doesn't answer, Hawke does. At least in that video. It's simply likely I was misinformed. Either that or whoever said that - I genuinely can't remember - picked an option none of us did, including that video.  *shrug*

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 24 mars 2011 - 04:45 .

[Badpie]

Tealsie wrote...


Danarius says "so this is your new master/mistress."

I can't watch at work, but I remember Danarius saying that but I certainly don't remember Fenris implying that was true.  If I recall (again I can't watch the video right now) after he says that you can tell him to p*ss off and that Fenris is no slave.

[Tealsie]

Badpie wrote...

Tealsie wrote...


Danarius says "so this is your new master/mistress."

I can't watch at work, but I remember Danarius saying that but I certainly don't remember Fenris implying that was true.  If I recall (again I can't watch the video right now) after he says that you can tell him to p*ss off and that Fenris is no slave.

He doesn't. Actually, he seems to ignore that part completely. Only Hawke can say that Fenris belongs to no one, or the heartbreaking "take him" option.

[Helen0rz]

@anarya

I agree with you. It is very often for us to say 'you're mine', 'i belong to you' and things as such to our significant other, why should Fenris be excluded of that because it related to his past? He's saying it freely and willing with affection, no one forced him to say it.

Unfortunately he does have that 'I'm still a slave' mentality, and thats from years of abuse. It is the only thing he can remember other than the stuff that happened while he was with Hawke, how can anyone to expect him think anything else other than the only thing he knows? He's more free than we expected and yet even more tied down by his past than we know.

I higly doubt that He said he's Danrius's with such affection. A sentence with 2 sided meanings, but consider the only time I've gotten that line is after the reconciliation in Act 3, that's definitely him showing his affection and love to Hawke

[elenilote]

Badpie wrote...

Tealsie wrote...


Danarius says "so this is your new master/mistress."

I can't watch at work, but I remember Danarius saying that but I certainly don't remember Fenris implying that was true.  If I recall (again I can't watch the video right now) after he says that you can tell him to p*ss off and that Fenris is no slave.

Yeah, Hawke says 'He's not a slave' or 'He doesn't belong to anyone!' or something... pretty close to what you say in DAO in Zev/Taliesin meeting

[Addai]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

When does he do that?

I've only been told that he does.  I believe that it is during the trap at the Hanged Man.  Regardless whether or not he does, it isn't part of my argument anyway.

Nah, he never says that.  Hawke can reply "Fenris doesn't belong to anyone!" to which Danarius says "Do I detect a note of jealousy?  I'm not surprised.  The boy is rather skilled, isn't he?" and Fenris says "shut your mouth, Danarius!"

The options other than handing him over all go straight to combat.

[Helen0rz]

@tealsie

Danarius was insulting Fenris the best way he knows how, and he hits the target with every word. By 'implying' Fenris is not a free man is like reminding him how worthless him is, which is why Hawke has the opportunity to stand up for him. I think Fenris knows he is a free man but he needs affirmation and the death of Danarius to prove that...kinda like confidence thing. Reassurance

[Tealsie]

Helen0rz wrote...

@tealsie

Danarius was insulting Fenris the best way he knows how, and he hits the target with every word. By 'implying' Fenris is not a free man is like reminding him how worthless him is, which is why Hawke has the opportunity to stand up for him. I think Fenris knows he is a free man but he needs affirmation and the death of Danarius to prove that...kinda like confidence thing. Reassurance

I know. It's too bad there's not a "yes, I am his new mistress " option. Just because.

[Badpie]

Tealsie wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

@tealsie

Danarius was insulting Fenris the best way he knows how, and he hits the target with every word. By 'implying' Fenris is not a free man is like reminding him how worthless him is, which is why Hawke has the opportunity to stand up for him. I think Fenris knows he is a free man but he needs affirmation and the death of Danarius to prove that...kinda like confidence thing. Reassurance

I know. It's too bad there's not a "yes, I am his new mistress " option. Just because.

Ha!  I can't imagine Fenris would find that amusing in the least.  I probably couldn't bring myself to take that option just like I don't even want to know what happens when you say "take him" to Danarius. 

[Tealsie]

Badpie wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

@tealsie

Danarius was insulting Fenris the best way he knows how, and he hits the target with every word. By 'implying' Fenris is not a free man is like reminding him how worthless him is, which is why Hawke has the opportunity to stand up for him. I think Fenris knows he is a free man but he needs affirmation and the death of Danarius to prove that...kinda like confidence thing. Reassurance

I know. It's too bad there's not a "yes, I am his new mistress " option. Just because.

Ha!  I can't imagine Fenris would find that amusing in the least.  I probably couldn't bring myself to take that option just like I don't even want to know what happens when you say "take him" to Danarius. 

Then you probably shouldn't watch that video.

[ejoslin]

Everything I've heard Fenris say is all about how he is no longer a slave. Whenever someone calls him a slave, he will reply, "I am NOT a slave." Often just before he crushes their heart. To what extent he believes this is up in the air, but there are even banters dealing with this (Sebastion comes to mind, crediting the maker for Fenris being a free man).

[Badpie]

Relevant.

[img]http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://leeuwhondje.tweakdsl.nl/stuff/fenris.jpg&sa=X&ei=sXmLTZq4C8PYgQfE7JTMDQ&ved=0CAQQ8wc4zgE&usg=AFQjCNF03S4e_pPvmGRFMHMeckEJeBcAkA[/img]

[Estelle019230]

 During the "Alone" quest, did anyone pick "take him" as the dialogue option to Danarius just to see how Fenris would react?  I didn't have the heart to do it myself, but I found a vid on YouTube of someone who did... and I literally cried.  The look on Fenris's face at being betrayed... 

[Estelle019230]

Badpie wrote...

Relevant.

[img]http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://leeuwhondje.tweakdsl.nl/stuff/fenris.jpg&sa=X&ei=sXmLTZq4C8PYgQfE7JTMDQ&ved=0CAQQ8wc4zgE&usg=AFQjCNF03S4e_pPvmGRFMHMeckEJeBcAkA[/img]

I greatly enjoy this picture. 

[Helen0rz]

@badpie

Don't watch it. Curiousity get the best of people and I watched it yesterday. Big mistake, my heart was in pieces. So sad!

[Tealsie]

Badpie wrote...

Relevant.

[img]http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://leeuwhondje.tweakdsl.nl/stuff/fenris.jpg&sa=X&ei=sXmLTZq4C8PYgQfE7JTMDQ&ved=0CAQQ8wc4zgE&usg=AFQjCNF03S4e_pPvmGRFMHMeckEJeBcAkA[/img]

Fensmirk is an insta-cure for the heartbreak one gets after watching the "take him" option. [img]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/img]

[Badpie]

Helen0rz wrote...

@badpie

Don't watch it. Curiousity get the best of people and I watched it yesterday. Big mistake, my heart was in pieces. So sad!

Good to know. Thanks.  I'd rather not feel like he reached into my chest and squished my heart.  Hehe.  ....neat trick that is...

[DemonSaya]

Estelle019230 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Relevant.

[img]http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://leeuwhondje.tweakdsl.nl/stuff/fenris.jpg&sa=X&ei=sXmLTZq4C8PYgQfE7JTMDQ&ved=0CAQQ8wc4zgE&usg=AFQjCNF03S4e_pPvmGRFMHMeckEJeBcAkA[/img]

I greatly enjoy this picture. 

I agree.  Sexy smirk is sexy    I'm requisitioning this picture

[Estelle019230]

Badpie wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

@badpie

Don't watch it. Curiousity get the best of people and I watched it yesterday. Big mistake, my heart was in pieces. So sad!

Good to know. Thanks.  I'd rather not feel like he reached into my chest and squished my heart.  Hehe.  ....neat trick that is...

That is a great way to describe it, actually... 

[vedlingtonii]

Hey all! Fenris is fabulous. I haven't posted in the forums, but I've been following this thread since its inception and quite enjoying it. :')

I started my third playthrough and just got to the part where Fenris rips out the slaver's heart in Bait and Switch, and I was just wondering -- what d'you guys think he was expecting to find in Anso's chest? He avoids the question when Hawke asks him if he was expecting something else. "I was, but I shouldn't have. It was bait, and nothing more." He never elaborates, does he?

[Tasmen]

ejoslin wrote...

Everything I've heard Fenris say is all about how he is no longer a slave. Whenever someone calls him a slave, he will reply, "I am NOT a slave." Often just before he crushes their heart. To what extent he believes this is up in the air, but there are even banters dealing with this (Sebastion comes to mind, crediting the maker for Fenris being a free man).

I think this is a case of what he says and what he truly believes and how they differ.

[Helen0rz]

Man...these this PERFECT Chinese song that I think describe how Hawke feels when Fenris left in Act 2. I should translate it soon and post it here and see what you guys think

[Helen0rz]

There's*

Sry can't edit on my phone

[elenilote]

More Fen goodness

 

http://t2.gstatic.co...mIwO799HPjL38Ug

[Tealsie]

vedlingtonii wrote...

I started my third playthrough and just got to the part where Fenris rips out the slaver's heart in Bait and Switch, and I was just wondering -- what d'you guys think he was expecting to find in Anso's chest? He avoids the question when Hawke asks him if he was expecting something else. "I was, but I shouldn't have. It was bait, and nothing more." He never elaborates, does he?

Welcome!  

I've been wondering that too. Not a clue, though.  
...Danarius, perhaps?