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Wynne wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Well, I think Twilight is far more effective with its romantic elements than most people give it credit for. Granted, it has little else going for it-- but the romance it does well. I find it a fascinating exercise to analyze exactly why that is
(which I do for many romances... thankfully Cori is a giant romance movie buff).

Bleh. I recommend the Vampire Diaries. The book series was written ten years before Twilight and contains the same basic setup, only better. The show is like 20x better than the Twilight movies after the first two episodes (in which they had to establish the main romance.) Plus it's like 20x less creepy because the heroine isn't like a damselly refugee from a camp in Utah who has no idea what feminism is and she is actually sensible about the whole dating a much older dead guy thing being pretty weird, and demands to be treated like an equal rather than patronized and pampered. The setup is just as romantic, just as supernatural, except that it sucks a lot more in the vampire way and sucks a lot less in the sucking way.

I guess Maria's right in that people bag on Twilight too much, but I bag on it because I've seen people worship it and then complain about how the Vampire Diaries "ripped it off" when in fact, if anything, it was entirely the other way around. Sure, the show capitalized on the story because of Twilight, so I grudgingly applaud that, but it's still better in paper and on tv than anything related to Twilight if you ask me (not that anyone did). Ian Somerhalder's Damon is the only vampire character I've liked this much since Spike for God's sake, and I never thought anyone could come close. (Not that TVD is as funny as Whedon's work by any means, but it is still quite fun, particularly when Damon is around.)

I maintain that the Vampire Diaries is what all the Twilight fans were looking for when they picked up Twilight in the first place, but it's rather healthy at the same time. Twilight is a cardboard-crust pizza covered in craploads of oil; you know it's bad for you but you can't resist it. Vampire Diaries is a whole wheat pizza with olive oil and fresh Mediterranean spices with thick, rich waves of tomato sauce and real mozarella--you bite into that sucker and you will never go back. Both are pizzas, but once you've had the latter, the former is only for when you're desperate and there's nothing else available.

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Hear, hear! Vampire Diaries is fantastic. (although I'm only really a fan of the tv show, not the books)
I wouldn't mind Fenris' personality to have a tiny bit of Damon thrown in there, personally. Maybe Damon's sense of humor?
I'm thinking of scenes like in season 1 when Stefan warns Damon not to kill Tyler, and Damon says, "Oh come on, who's gonna miss this idiot?" :D
More evidence of Damon-Humor: www.youtube.com/watch

*SQUEES* OMG the guy who played Eames in Inception? He was GREAT! And come to think of it, his voice is super-sexy... EVIDENCE!

*eye
muscle twitches* Seriously. It's like buttery liquid sex. Too bad it's
not Welsh, but then again since Fenris is not Dalish and may in fact be
Arlathan or something, it won't exactly matter. Who knows what
Arlathans sound like?

I'd happily take Tom Hardy OR the other popular choice who also happens to be in Inception: Cillian Murphy, of course.
You'd know I'd never noticed that Tom Hardy's voice kinda sounds like the guy who voiced Nathaniel... 

I would be in HEAVEN. I loved Bishop all except for that pesky semi-arbitrary betrayal.

Oh me too! The thing I really loved about Bishop was how confrontational he was and how he never felt subservient to the PC. They were always on equal footing. I always feel a little weird in Bioware games when I'm romancing characters who take orders from me...

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@Minxie18, then welcome to the club, my dear.

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I haven't been on the p[ast couple days, and I am too lazy to sift through the past forty pages. Can someone get me up to speed, please? Did something new come up besides a Fenris pic covered in Nutella?

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List courtesy of tankgirly;

Theories, regarding Fenris and how he came to be/where he came from

1. Amgarrak Theory:
My [tank] old theory. That he might be the only and only Golem Trevinter magister had ever successfully managed after the Amgarrak disaster

2. Eluvian Mirror Theory:
Another theory we hugely discussed in the old thread. That our beloved elf is from beyond the mirror, only to be trapped here by the Trevinter Magister. Base on the WH DLC.

3. Ancient Arlathan Elf Survivor
Whether or not he is related to Fen'Harel, the appeal of his memories gone missing & his physical ability to withstand lyrium injects may go hand in hand with the fact he is the Magister's best kept secret - An
ancient arlathan.

Subsequently, he'd then have knowledge long since destroyed by the history books. Too bad he has amnesia.

4. A Chantry Whistleblower
He maybe carrying knowledge that could force Thedes into the brink of war, which could be related to his lyrium addled experiments or something darker. This relates to the story of Fenrir in norse mythology.

5. Lyrium Infused Experiment for Immortality

Going hand in hand with your Amgarrak theory, though in a different avenue. Tevinter is trying to break into Elven biology & secrets of ancient immortality, which may have something to do with the lyrium infused in Fenris' system

Debunked theories
1. Fenris being a werewolf
2. Fenris having anything to do with Fen'Harel.

Misc, regarding Fenris' other 'interesting factoids'.
1. Fenris might be bi (unless I interpreted David's message wrong).
2. You can't touch Fenris.


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TheSquadette wrote...
Misc, regarding Fenris' other 'interesting factoids'.

1. Fenris might be bi (unless I interpreted David's message wrong).
2. You can't touch Fenris.

What? WHY!?!
Edit: or is that just a theory?

Modifié par Margaret_TheElf, 22 décembre 2010 - 11:36 .


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Margaret_TheElf wrote...

TheSquadette wrote...
Misc, regarding Fenris' other 'interesting factoids'.

1. Fenris might be bi (unless I interpreted David's message wrong).
2. You can't touch Fenris.

What? WHY!?!


One Honourbal D. Gaider has told us that touching Fenris (or possibly just his tattoos) will cause pain of the 'flinch away then punch you in the face' kind. However, good news is, he wouldn't punch Hawke.

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Margaret_TheElf wrote...

TheSquadette wrote...
Misc, regarding Fenris' other 'interesting factoids'.

1. Fenris might be bi (unless I interpreted David's message wrong).
2. You can't touch Fenris.

What? WHY!?!
Edit: or is that just a theory?


If I'm not mistaken, Gaider said the lyrium tattoos/carvings/whatevers cause him great pain, and even more so when someone touches him.

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shepard_lives wrote...

Margaret_TheElf wrote...

TheSquadette wrote...
Misc, regarding Fenris' other 'interesting factoids'.

1. Fenris might be bi (unless I interpreted David's message wrong).
2. You can't touch Fenris.

What? WHY!?!
Edit: or is that just a theory?


If I'm not mistaken, Gaider said the lyrium tattoos/carvings/whatevers cause him great pain, and even more so when someone touches him.

so if romance, it'd be one of those mentally emotional types. Cool:O

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Pro Physical Romance Double Post disapproves: -50

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No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke

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Ninja Mage wrote...

No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke

weally? I'm sort of cheered up now. Still a bit cheesed after finding out that Carver will only live if you are a mage.

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Yeah if it was alot of pain he wouldn't be wearing armor

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What Gaider wrote:

David Gaider wrote...

Touching Fenris isn't a good idea. He doesn't react well.



And then he wrote:


David Gaider wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Evening, Ser Gaider! *tips hat*

I had a feeling Hawke would probably either get punched or get threatened with getting her hands cut off.


Well, first he would flinch-- because his markings are quite painful, and doubly so when they're touched. His first instinct might be to punch someone who touched him, though he'd probably hold back if he realized it was Hawke.

Then he would brood.


And then we talked about twilight (again) and eventually scared Gaider away when the thread went to CRA-AZY-land.... a word of advice stay away from page 110 there be monsters Posted Image

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Ninja Mage wrote...

No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke

When he said that it gave me hope that Fenris is indeed an LI. =]

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Minxie18 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke

When he said that it gave me hope that Fenris is indeed an LI. =]


It does at least imply that he has a great amount of respect or whatever towards Hawke(ette) that he doesn't feel towards anyone else... intriguing Posted Image

Modifié par dirtsa90, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:12 .


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I know, at the very least he respects Hawke enough not to haul off and punch him/her, that's good news. I figure I'd be happy with a close platonic bond if LI was entirely one hundred percent out, sort of like what I felt my female wardens had with Morrigan (only maybe without the constant push and pull), but I'd really prefer romance.

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Ninja Mage wrote...

No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke


Where does he say that? Have I missed something again? :blink:

I only saw it as he might hold back on the punch if he saw it was Hawke - not that Hawke is free to touch them.

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If he's a LI and we can't touch him then there is only one solution to this epic love-story....:
                                      
                                   "INTERPRETIVE DANCE!!"


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dirtsa90 wrote...

If he's a LI and we can't touch him then there is only one solution to this epic love-story....:
                                      
                                   "INTERPRETIVE DANCE!!"

Whut? Posted Image

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Yellow Words wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke


Where does he say that? Have I missed something again? :blink:

I only saw it as he might hold back on the punch if he saw it was Hawke - not that Hawke is free to touch them.


I imagine that unless you had high approval points with him, there would be a "no touching" policy.


La_Duchessa wrote...

dirtsa90 wrote...

If he's a LI and we can't touch him then there is only one solution to this epic love-story....:
                                      
                                   "INTERPRETIVE DANCE!!"

Whut? ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png


I don't think she saw our posts about us wondering if Fenris could dance.

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David Gaider wrote...
Well, first he would flinch-- because his markings are quite painful, and doubly so when they're touched. His first instinct might be to punch someone who touched him, though he'd probably hold back if he realized it was Hawke.

Then he would brood.

I wonder if the reason why Fenris broods after something like that is that he didn't necessarily intend to hold back against punching Hawke, something he wouldn't have done for anyone else. In this hypothetical situation he broods because he's having trouble coming to terms with the fact that he likes/respects Hawke, because it's a bit of novelty to him finding someone he can like and respect.

Just my interpretation of the word of Ser David. :)

Modifié par Minxie18, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:37 .


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dirtsa90 wrote...

If he's a LI and we can't touch him then there is only one solution to this epic love-story....:
                                      
                                   "INTERPRETIVE DANCE!!"


I've watched a lot of Planet Earth and Life (awesome programs!!) today and when I read that I immediately thought of birds-of-paradise and how some of them dance before mating. That would be quite the sight..

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OK Bear with me and quotes. Here are the relevant posts by Mr. Gaider:
"Touching Fenris isn't a good idea. He doesn't react well." Pg 104

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Evening, Ser Gaider! *tips hat*
I had a feeling Hawke would probably either get punched or get threatened with getting her hands cut off.

Gaider’s Response:
  "Well, first he would flinch-- because his markings are quite painful, and doubly so when they're touched. His first instinct might be to punch someone who touched him, though he'd probably hold back if he realized it was Hawke.
Then he would brood." Pg. 104

David Gaider wrote... Pg 106
leonia42 wrote...
At least Fenris isn't like Rogue and will totally kill/steal your powers if you
touch him.
"You assume."

Edited for atrocious formatting

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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Yellow Words wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

No David Gaider said that his tattoos feel ''sore'' it's not excruciating pain. And for that reason he doesn't let people touch them, except Hawke


Where does he say that? Have I missed something again? :blink:

I only saw it as he might hold back on the punch if he saw it was Hawke - not that Hawke is free to touch them.


I imagine that unless you had high approval points with him, there would be a "no touching" policy.


La_Duchessa wrote...

dirtsa90 wrote...

If he's a LI and we can't touch him then there is only one solution to this epic love-story....:
                                      
                                   "INTERPRETIVE DANCE!!"

Whut? ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png


I don't think she saw our posts about us wondering if Fenris could dance.


A shame, that was a good discussion. Posted Image

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Yellow Words wrote...

dirtsa90 wrote...

If he's a LI and we can't touch him then there is only one solution to this epic love-story....:
                                      
                                   "INTERPRETIVE DANCE!!"


I've watched a lot of Planet Earth and Life (awesome programs!!) today and when I read that I immediately thought of birds-of-paradise and how some of them dance before mating. That would be quite the sight..


OK, I'm glad I considered reading this before drinking some Dr. Pepper. Elsewise, I'd have a mess.

dirtsa90 wrote...

A shame, that was a good discussion. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png

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Perhaps we should pick it back up! :D