Wynne wrote...
Bleh. I recommend the Vampire Diaries. The book series was written ten years before Twilight and contains the same basic setup, only better. The show is like 20x better than the Twilight movies after the first two episodes (in which they had to establish the main romance.) Plus it's like 20x less creepy because the heroine isn't like a damselly refugee from a camp in Utah who has no idea what feminism is and she is actually sensible about the whole dating a much older dead guy thing being pretty weird, and demands to be treated like an equal rather than patronized and pampered. The setup is just as romantic, just as supernatural, except that it sucks a lot more in the vampire way and sucks a lot less in the sucking way.David Gaider wrote...
Well, I think Twilight is far more effective with its romantic elements than most people give it credit for. Granted, it has little else going for it-- but the romance it does well. I find it a fascinating exercise to analyze exactly why that is
(which I do for many romances... thankfully Cori is a giant romance movie buff).
I guess Maria's right in that people bag on Twilight too much, but I bag on it because I've seen people worship it and then complain about how the Vampire Diaries "ripped it off" when in fact, if anything, it was entirely the other way around. Sure, the show capitalized on the story because of Twilight, so I grudgingly applaud that, but it's still better in paper and on tv than anything related to Twilight if you ask me (not that anyone did). Ian Somerhalder's Damon is the only vampire character I've liked this much since Spike for God's sake, and I never thought anyone could come close. (Not that TVD is as funny as Whedon's work by any means, but it is still quite fun, particularly when Damon is around.)
I maintain that the Vampire Diaries is what all the Twilight fans were looking for when they picked up Twilight in the first place, but it's rather healthy at the same time. Twilight is a cardboard-crust pizza covered in craploads of oil; you know it's bad for you but you can't resist it. Vampire Diaries is a whole wheat pizza with olive oil and fresh Mediterranean spices with thick, rich waves of tomato sauce and real mozarella--you bite into that sucker and you will never go back. Both are pizzas, but once you've had the latter, the former is only for when you're desperate and there's nothing else available.

Hear, hear! Vampire Diaries is fantastic. (although I'm only really a fan of the tv show, not the books)
I wouldn't mind Fenris' personality to have a tiny bit of Damon thrown in there, personally. Maybe Damon's sense of humor?
I'm thinking of scenes like in season 1 when Stefan warns Damon not to kill Tyler, and Damon says, "Oh come on, who's gonna miss this idiot?"
More evidence of Damon-Humor: www.youtube.com/watch
I'd happily take Tom Hardy OR the other popular choice who also happens to be in Inception: Cillian Murphy, of course.*SQUEES* OMG the guy who played Eames in Inception? He was GREAT! And come to think of it, his voice is super-sexy... EVIDENCE!
*eye
muscle twitches* Seriously. It's like buttery liquid sex. Too bad it's
not Welsh, but then again since Fenris is not Dalish and may in fact be
Arlathan or something, it won't exactly matter. Who knows what
Arlathans sound like?
You'd know I'd never noticed that Tom Hardy's voice kinda sounds like the guy who voiced Nathaniel...
Oh me too! The thing I really loved about Bishop was how confrontational he was and how he never felt subservient to the PC. They were always on equal footing. I always feel a little weird in Bioware games when I'm romancing characters who take orders from me...I would be in HEAVEN. I loved Bishop all except for that pesky semi-arbitrary betrayal.





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