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[Mentatzoee]

Then Flemeth isn't evil? Or the Maker is evil!

Or, er, what does she say when you bring Fenris there, by the way?

Edit: Top page Fenris-ness

Modifié par Mentatzoee, 25 mars 2011 - 06:01 .

[SurrealSadi]

"The chains are broken, but are you truly free?"

Edit:  I think Flemeth, like Reven, made a choice.

Modifié par SurrealSadi, 25 mars 2011 - 05:58 .

[Helen0rz]

@Tasmen
You dont think we'll see Morrigan and her god child?

I think Flemeth serves a bigger a greater purpose. She's evil but I don't think she's like...I'm gonna drink your blood and slaughter your entire family evil. Everything she does, she pretty much knows the outcome to an certain extent. I'm waiting for her and sandal's arrival. I just want know how sandal got his 'magic' and why felmeth has to be a creeper standing next to sandal's bed at night.

[Tealsie]

Mentatzoee wrote...

Then Flemeth isn't evil? Or the Maker is evil!

Or, er, what does she say when you bring Fenris there, by the way?

Can't remember it all exactly. Fenris calls her a witch.
Something like

Fenris: You are no ordinary witch.
Flemeth: Figured that oout yourself, did you?
Fenris: I have seen [something] demons, and abominations. You are none of these. What are you?
Flemeth: Interesting lad. The chains are broken, but are you truly free?
Fenris: You see a great deal.
Flemeth: I am a fly in the ointment. I am a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman.

Modifié par Tealsie, 25 mars 2011 - 06:00 .

[Helen0rz]

Also, I don't think Fenris will return with a prominent role

[Fault Girl]

Tealsie wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

Then Flemeth isn't evil? Or the Maker is evil!

Or, er, what does she say when you bring Fenris there, by the way?

Can't remember it all exactly. Fenris calls her a witch.
Something like

Fenris: You are no ordinary witch.
Flemeth: Figured that oout yourself, did you?
Fenris: I have seen witches, demons, and abominations. You are none of these. What are you?
Flemeth: Interesting lad. The chains are broken, but are you truly free?
Fenris: You see a great deal.
Flemeth: I am a fly in the ointment. I am a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman.

Could be a variant of the Dread Wolf? Alot of lore has links intertwined with each other.

Quite cool having such mystery around her.

[Fault Girl]

Helen0rz wrote...

Also, I don't think Fenris will return with a prominent role

More than likely but we can hope/pray/pester

[Tasmen]

Helen0rz wrote...

@Tasmen
You dont think we'll see Morrigan and her god child?

I think Flemeth serves a bigger a greater purpose. She's evil but I don't think she's like...I'm gonna drink your blood and slaughter your entire family evil. Everything she does, she pretty much knows the outcome to an certain extent. I'm waiting for her and sandal's arrival. I just want know how sandal got his 'magic' and why felmeth has to be a creeper standing next to sandal's bed at night.

I'd like to say that God baby will be there, but some people did elect not to do the ritual in their DAO games.  The writers would have to pretty much ignore that aspect of some folks games to bring God baby into the picture.  I'm not saying they won't do it (because hey, they can play fast and loose with the story if they want... it is their story, after all).

I still think one of the best things they could do in DA3 is reveal that Sandal has the spirit of an old God in him.  There is just something about that idea that makes me smile.  Bodahn did find him in the Deep Roads and all.

[Tealsie]

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

Then Flemeth isn't evil? Or the Maker is evil!

Or, er, what does she say when you bring Fenris there, by the way?

Can't remember it all exactly. Fenris calls her a witch.
Something like

Fenris: You are no ordinary witch.
Flemeth: Figured that oout yourself, did you?
Fenris: I have seen witches, demons, and abominations. You are none of these. What are you?
Flemeth: Interesting lad. The chains are broken, but are you truly free?
Fenris: You see a great deal.
Flemeth: I am a fly in the ointment. I am a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman.

Could be a variant of the Dread Wolf? Alot of lore has links intertwined with each other.

Quite cool having such mystery around her.

I always figured she was/is an Old God. Which could still be the Dread Wolf, since the lore is all linked, as you said.

[Mentatzoee]

He probably won't!

But maybe this means that Hawke won't be there either! There's no Hawke without Fenris!
(And Flemeth has always been way cooler than Morrigan)

[SurrealSadi]

Tealsie wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

Then Flemeth isn't evil? Or the Maker is evil!

Or, er, what does she say when you bring Fenris there, by the way?

Can't remember it all exactly. Fenris calls her a witch.
Something like

Fenris: You are no ordinary witch.
Flemeth: Figured that oout yourself, did you?
Fenris: I have seen witches, demons, and abominations. You are none of these. What are you?
Flemeth: Interesting lad. The chains are broken, but are you truly free?
Fenris: You see a great deal.
Flemeth: I am a fly in the ointment. I am a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman.

Could be a variant of the Dread Wolf? Alot of lore has links intertwined with each other.

Quite cool having such mystery around her.

I always figured she was/is an Old God. Which could still be the Dread Wolf, since the lore is all linked, as you said.

Yeah, I've been thinking she could be an Old God bound into a humanoid form...but...there's been 5 Blights out of 7 Old Gods....if she's an Old God, she would have to be a previous Old God...

[Mentatzoee]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

Then Flemeth isn't evil? Or the Maker is evil!

Or, er, what does she say when you bring Fenris there, by the way?

Can't remember it all exactly. Fenris calls her a witch.
Something like

Fenris: You are no ordinary witch.
Flemeth: Figured that oout yourself, did you?
Fenris: I have seen witches, demons, and abominations. You are none of these. What are you?
Flemeth: Interesting lad. The chains are broken, but are you truly free?
Fenris: You see a great deal.
Flemeth: I am a fly in the ointment. I am a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman.

Could be a variant of the Dread Wolf? Alot of lore has links intertwined with each other.

Quite cool having such mystery around her.

I always figured she was/is an Old God. Which could still be the Dread Wolf, since the lore is all linked, as you said.

Yeah, I've been thinking she could be an Old God bound into a humanoid form...but...there's been 5 Blights out of 7 Old Gods....if she's an Old God, she would have to be a previous Old God...

Maybe her ultimate plan is to "defeat all those", and she's isn't evil in the end.

I don't know how to say these things without looking stupid, sigh.

Modifié par Mentatzoee, 25 mars 2011 - 06:09 .

[elenilote]

Hm. Well didn't Morrigan want the ritual so she would have a child 'of the blood of the Old Gods'...? Because if Flemeth was an Old God, and she is Morrigan's mother, then logically the 'Old God' bit should apply to Morrigan too - she would not need a horrible ritual for it?

[Mentatzoee]

But Morrigan wasn't Flemeth's daughter!

(Fenris is the best!)

[Heidenreich]

http://social.biowar...529/blog/16947/


Part two. I haven't decided yet if there will be a part three ;x

[Tealsie]

elenilote wrote...

Hm. Well didn't Morrigan want the ritual so she would have a child 'of the blood of the Old Gods'...? Because if Flemeth was an Old God, and she is Morrigan's mother, then logically the 'Old God' bit should apply to Morrigan too - she would not need a horrible ritual for it?

She said the soul of an old god, which would escape from the archdemon when the beastie is slain. Any blood relation she may or may not have to Flemeth probably doesn't matter(it might help, but you might be able to the ritual without a relation to Flemeth).

[Vhalkyrie]

Tasmen wrote...
I'd like to say that God baby will be there, but some people did elect not to do the ritual in their DAO games.  The writers would have to pretty much ignore that aspect of some folks games to bring God baby into the picture.  I'm not saying they won't do it (because hey, they can play fast and loose with the story if they want... it is their story, after all).

I still think one of the best things they could do in DA3 is reveal that Sandal has the spirit of an old God in him.  There is just something about that idea that makes me smile.  Bodahn did find him in the Deep Roads and all.

Morrigan can still have the god baby, even if the Warden didn't agree.  There was another Grey Warden she could have seduced.  Which is one reason why I chose Alistair to do the ritual with her to save our lives.  I figured she would find another way, and it would be better if Alistair and I were both alive to deal with whatever she was up to.

I'll be pretty ticked if they created this cliffhanger about what she is doing and never explain it.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 25 mars 2011 - 06:13 .

[SurrealSadi]

Ugh... I'm too tired for this kind of conversation....

To quote Buffy the vampire slayer: "Fire bad. Tree pretty."

[UltiPup]

elenilote wrote...

Hm. Well didn't Morrigan want the ritual so she would have a child 'of the blood of the Old Gods'...? Because if Flemeth was an Old God, and she is Morrigan's mother, then logically the 'Old God' bit should apply to Morrigan too - she would not need a horrible ritual for it?

SOUL of an Old God. That is Urthemiel's soul when you kill him. An Old God cannot truly be killed. Souls just transfer to new bodies. Since you are nearby, his soul would have gone into you. But with Morrigan's ritual, his soul was cast into her and her unborn child. 

[Herr Uhl]

UltiPup wrote...

elenilote wrote...

Hm. Well didn't Morrigan want the ritual so she would have a child 'of the blood of the Old Gods'...? Because if Flemeth was an Old God, and she is Morrigan's mother, then logically the 'Old God' bit should apply to Morrigan too - she would not need a horrible ritual for it?

SOUL of an Old God. That is Urthemiel's soul when you kill him. An Old God cannot truly be killed. Souls just transfer to new bodies. Since you are nearby, his soul would have gone into you. But with Morrigan's ritual, his soul was cast into her and her unborn child. 

I thought that the point of being a warden was that they can. Granted, that is when they're archdemons and tainted, so different rules may apply.

[Rheia]

I agree that old god baby subplot could happen anyway. Hell. If Warden killed flemeth, flemeth had a plan b to survive. who's to say she didn't have a plan b for god baby, whatever it may have been .

I think it'd be cool to play as morrigan's child in one of the Dragon Age titles. Would bring back memories of baldur's gate if nothing else, but i don't think it'll happen.

Modifié par Rheia, 25 mars 2011 - 06:20 .

[Fault Girl]

Heidenreich wrote...

http://social.biowar...529/blog/16947/


Part two. I haven't decided yet if there will be a part three ;x

looove it<3

[Helen0rz]

@Tasmen

Right, forgot about the option of having god baby... That's gotta be interesting because there's a big difference there. But like you said it's their story, they can do whatever they want with it

[Heidenreich]

Not enough Fenris Discussion..

[Fault Girl]

Heidenreich wrote...

Not enough Fenris Discussion..

Fenris does enjoy his drink...