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[Gilsa]

NoaNik wrote...

If there was a contest called "I had a hard life, so now I'm all angry at the world and got the ink to show for it" who would win- Fenris or ME2 Jack?

Jack. She remembers her torture.

[Tasmen]

UltiPup wrote...

So Fenris had to wrestle a few tigers now and then. No big deal...

Fenris has tiger blood and bi-winning or don't you know that?

[valuhree]

 

pahahah.

[Tasmen]

ejoslin wrote...

Words like "submissive" are very changed, however.  Just because someone would prefer to follow doesn't make them submissive.  Fenris doesn't strike me as submissive; he speaks up all the time.

That...  'Submissive' just doesn't seem like the right word to describe Fenris.  He fights and takes a stand up until the point if you give him to Danarius (that scene fills me with beyond the sad, I swear). 

[valuhree]

just one more for good measure...

[zee Anjan]

Tasmen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Words like "submissive" are very changed, however.  Just because someone would prefer to follow doesn't make them submissive.  Fenris doesn't strike me as submissive; he speaks up all the time.

That...  'Submissive' just doesn't seem like the right word to describe Fenris.  He fights and takes a stand up until the point if you give him to Danarius (that scene fills me with beyond the sad, I swear). 

To me Fenris is a very complex man and just as with most people in real life you can't really sum him up with one word that way. I can agree that at times Fenris does show some submissive tendancies, but that hardly makes him submissive as a whole. I think we need to start looking beyond that one word to describe him, because there is no one word that encompasses his personality.

Actually got around reading a bit in the codex today when I am playing, learned a few new things I hadn't really noticed before. During the first three years he spend in Kirkwall Fenris seems to have done a lot of work as a Mercenary and judging from some of the dialouges so far into act III I would say he continues this during his whole stay in Kirkwall. These Mercenary contracts is probably what made it possible for him to find and contact his sister back in Tevinter.
And apparently he did talk about leaving Kirkwall several times during the last year or so before act III, but it seems he feels he still owes Hawk something and thus he is still around. I would also say that it deos seem like there was nothing romantical going on between Hawke and Fenris during this time, this judging from what is written within the Codex, but it does seem like Hawke might have tried to talk things out with Fenris at some point. Just that Fenris didn't want to talk about it...

[ColaQueen]

Here is a little something I wrote in honour @ejoslin to fill the 'gap years'

[Ramante]

Question for you guys.

A few pages back (okay, a lot of pages) some of you said that after 'All that remains' you can find Gascard and have a little chat with him.. problem is, I can't find him. x.x
- Gascard is alive (I saw him before the quest in Darktown but didn't talk to him)
- I used Gamlen's path to find Leandra
- Killed the necromancer
- Gascard is no longer in Darktown

Where did I go wrong? x.x

[Thrazesul]

You used Gamlen's path. You need to talk to Dupais instead of going through Gamlen. If you go through Gamlen you wont find out what really happened and there'll be no reason for Dupais to hang around and talk to.

Modifié par Nerana, 27 mars 2011 - 04:48 .

[Tasmen]

Ramante wrote...

Question for you guys.

A few pages back (okay, a lot of pages) some of you said that after 'All that remains' you can find Gascard and have a little chat with him.. problem is, I can't find him. x.x
- Gascard is alive (I saw him before the quest in Darktown but didn't talk to him)
- I used Gamlen's path to find Leandra
- Killed the necromancer
- Gascard is no longer in Darktown

Where did I go wrong? x.x

I think he sends you a letter and you speak to him later?  I'm speculating as i have not actually done the quest where Gascard stays alive just yet.

[Gilsa]

Tasmen wrote...

Ramante wrote...

Question for you guys.

A few pages back (okay, a lot of pages) some of you said that after 'All that remains' you can find Gascard and have a little chat with him.. problem is, I can't find him. x.x
- Gascard is alive (I saw him before the quest in Darktown but didn't talk to him)
- I used Gamlen's path to find Leandra
- Killed the necromancer
- Gascard is no longer in Darktown

Where did I go wrong? x.x

I think he sends you a letter and you speak to him later?  I'm speculating as i have not actually done the quest where Gascard stays alive just yet.

1. Need to have Gascard lead you to the bloody path.
2. Need to have Gascard not turn on you in the fight. ** Edit: You need to be a diplomat or aggressive to get the star icon to persuade him to side with you. (Apparently sarcastics are not getting this option?)
3. THEN you can find him again afterwards for the follow-up conversation.

Using Gamlen's route will negate this and you will not see Gascard again.

Modifié par Gilsa, 27 mars 2011 - 06:35 .

[Ramante]

Gilsa wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

Ramante wrote...

Question for you guys.

A few pages back (okay, a lot of pages) some of you said that after 'All that remains' you can find Gascard and have a little chat with him.. problem is, I can't find him. x.x
- Gascard is alive (I saw him before the quest in Darktown but didn't talk to him)
- I used Gamlen's path to find Leandra
- Killed the necromancer
- Gascard is no longer in Darktown

Where did I go wrong? x.x

I think he sends you a letter and you speak to him later?  I'm speculating as i have not actually done the quest where Gascard stays alive just yet.

1. Need to have Gascard lead you to the bloody path.
2. Need to have Gascard not turn on you in the fight.
3. THEN you can find him again afterwards for the follow-up conversation.

Using Gamlen's route will negate this and you will not see Gascard again.

Great... good thing I saved right before that quest. x.x

[Annarl]

How do you convince Gascard to side with you? I've never been able to do that.

[zee Anjan]

Oh ... I must have left Anders behind when I did Alone last time. Anders calling Fenris a hypocrite and then followed by the furious sneer Fenris responds with was just so good. I often feel Anders is a douche. But he sure makes for a fun character to bring along with Fenris just for their sniping at each other. Think I will always prefer letting Fenris kill his sister though... -doesn't like the woman-

-can't write anything coherent apparently when she is multitasking-
Edited to make it coherent.

Modifié par zee Anjan, 27 mars 2011 - 05:16 .

[Gilsa]

omearaee wrote...

How do you convince Gascard to side with you? I've never been able to do that.

Pick the star icon that shows up in the dialogue. This may be personality-dependant. I can confirm that it shows up under diplomatic.



Also, need to not have Varric in the group or he will kill Gascard before Hawke can even say anything.

Edit: I just checked the quest in the wiki. It states that this is a diplomatic option.

Modifié par Gilsa, 27 mars 2011 - 05:21 .

[Ramante]

Gilsa wrote...

omearaee wrote...

How do you convince Gascard to side with you? I've never been able to do that.

Pick the star icon that shows up in the dialogue. This may be personality-dependant. I can confirm that it shows up under diplomatic.



Also, need to not have Varric in the group or he will kill Gascard before Hawke can even say anything.

That is ridiculous.

I don't get the star option. ><'

I get a 'don't you see what he has done?', in the middle on the right side.

[Rheia]

I played a sarcastic mage and I didn't get the star either, just fyi.

Somewhat related, sarcastic mage also couldn't talk the dalish from attacking ex warewolf, whereas diplomatic rogue could.

Modifié par Rheia, 27 mars 2011 - 05:19 .

[Ramante]

Anyone got a vid of the Gascard after-talk? I just want to see it. x.x

[Annarl]

Ramante wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

omearaee wrote...

How do you convince Gascard to side with you? I've never been able to do that.

Pick the star icon that shows up in the dialogue. This may be personality-dependant. I can confirm that it shows up under diplomatic.



Also, need to not have Varric in the group or he will kill Gascard before Hawke can even say anything.

That is ridiculous.

I don't get the star option. ><'

I get a 'don't you see what he has done?', in the middle on the right side.

I never get it either.

[Gilsa]

I just checked the wiki (and edited my post above) -- the star icon is for diplomats only.

Edit: Aggressives get the star, too! Looks like sarcastic Hawke doesn't get a star unless someone can confirm it?

Modifié par Gilsa, 27 mars 2011 - 06:36 .

[Maera Imrov]

Tasmen wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

So Fenris had to wrestle a few tigers now and then. No big deal...

Fenris has tiger blood and bi-winning or don't you know that?

Tiger blood and Adonis DNA. Sorry Charlie.

(Couldn't resist adding to that. That guy...)

[ejoslin]

SilverSentinel wrote...

Here is a little something I wrote in honour @ejoslin to fill the 'gap years'

It's wonderful!  Thank you!

[Exile Isan]

Couple of Fenris related speculative questions:

Do you think he would ever be mistaken for a mage because of his magic fisting thingy?

Also if friendmancing Fenris and Hawke is a mage and she got taken by the Circle (not that they would be able to) do you think Fenris would do? Do you think he would try to break her out? Would he just leave her there?

[Gilsa]

Ramante wrote...

Anyone got a vid of the Gascard after-talk? I just want to see it. x.x

[Aeryn-Sun]

Gilsa wrote...

I just checked the wiki (and edited my post above) -- the star icon is for diplomats only.

Aggressive Hawke gets a different star, with a line along the gist of, "If you stand between me and my mother, I will destroy you."

Modifié par Aeryn-Sun, 27 mars 2011 - 05:34 .