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DemonSaya

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

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Once more, Fenris shows how smart and cultivated he is.

I think it's pretty awesome how extensive his vocabulary is (he speaks at least three languages) all while never having learned to read. Not to mention the fact that he can hold his own in any ideological/philosophical debate. Fenris is one incredibly intelligent guy.


Yeah.  That one comment he makes, perhaps when you're in Viscount's Keep about power structures (can't quite remember what he said?) made me do one of these when I randomly clicked on him.  :blink: I was like okay big brain what other sorts of insightful commentary are you hiding up there.  I know everyone has talked about this already but the first time you go to the Arishok during Blackpowder Courtesy and he recites the Qun, that was the moment when my character knew she was in trouble.  Vivanne Hawke totally got her heart kali-ma'ed (metaphorically of course).  And I was in front of the television doing one of these :o!  I also LOVE Arishok's face when Fenris starts reciting the Qun, lol!  That needs to be an icon! *giggle*

That glowy Tevinter elf is full of surprises!

I will always bring Fenris to talk to the Arishok, every time he laid down some Qun knowledge I swooned. I love that when you bring Fenris it's Fenris that impresses the Arishok, and Hawke earns his respect by extension, as opposed to just another 'Hawke is so awesome everyone loves and respects him/her' moment.


Seriously!  Everytime he says something profound I was all :wub:  Fenris popping out with the Qun I stared at the scene and then started swearing because I hadn't saved prior to going in there...every playthrough since, however...I save right before going i, just to hear Fenris speak.

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I'm sorry about asking again and being a pain and such but, no one knows if you can get any friendship points being a mage from Fen in Bait and Switch?
(First time being a mage and so far I _dislike_ Carver!)

The less I can get is 10 rivalry points, and I think I've tried it all in the last conversation, I wanna know if this is all or that if it's actually possible and I've screwed it up in some other point!
(And I've been really nice all the time!)

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DemonSaya wrote...
Seriously!  Everytime he says something profound I was all :wub:  Fenris popping out with the Qun I stared at the scene and then started swearing because I hadn't saved prior to going in there...every playthrough since, however...I save right before going i, just to hear Fenris speak.


But isn't this the whole point of the game?

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@DemonSaya Glad I'm not the only one who does that. Gah! Why did DA2 have so few options to talk with people whenever? To question them? Or even just to click on them and realize that you have nothing else to talk about, but hey look a close up of their face to stare at? *pouts at lost chance to stare a Fenris' face at will*

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UltiPup wrote...

Trying to figure out how to say "I love you" in Arcanum. Obvious the language takes roots in Latin, but they merge **** together so I am not sure how to piece it together.

Well, beloved in Latin is Amanda(trust me, it's my RL life). I believe the root word is Amam or Ama...

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Mentatzoee wrote...

I'm sorry about asking again and being a pain and such but, no one knows if you can get any friendship points being a mage from Fen in Bait and Switch?
(First time being a mage and so far I _dislike_ Carver!)

The less I can get is 10 rivalry points, and I think I've tried it all in the last conversation, I wanna know if this is all or that if it's actually possible and I've screwed it up in some other point!
(And I've been really nice all the time!)

I don't think it's possible to get friendship points in that conversation. It's just a matter of how many rivalry points you get.
Thankfully, it's very easy to make up those points afterward. Posted Image

Also: Fenris satisfies demands of everyone's Qun. Posted Image

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And triple post!  Edit: MEEEP! :D

What do you think Fenris' VA would think of us?
Does he know about all this Fengirlism*?

*or "boyism", I don't want to discriminate anyone! By the way, how many guys are here in the thread? :D

Edit 2: Ty tealsie! I shall continue playing in peace then! I was stuck reloading that moment, lol!

Modifié par Mentatzoee, 28 mars 2011 - 01:35 .


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Mentatzoee wrote...

I'm sorry about asking again and being a pain and such but, no one knows if you can get any friendship points being a mage from Fen in Bait and Switch?
(First time being a mage and so far I _dislike_ Carver!)

The less I can get is 10 rivalry points, and I think I've tried it all in the last conversation, I wanna know if this is all or that if it's actually possible and I've screwed it up in some other point!
(And I've been really nice all the time!)


I don't think there's really a way not to get rivalry points while as a mage during that quest. Don't worry about it too much, tho. Those ten points are easy enough to make up.

Many people have said that they reached max friendship by the beginning of act 2, so don't worry if you run into a few bumps along the way.

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Thanks :D

I could reach full friendship with him with my warrior quite easily, but I was kind of afraid that it'd be harder with a mage!

I guess it'll be OK as long as I follow the "lines" and let him talk, which won't be much of a hard thing to do!

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dangereusegirl wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

I'm sorry about asking again and being a pain and such but, no one knows if you can get any friendship points being a mage from Fen in Bait and Switch?
(First time being a mage and so far I _dislike_ Carver!)

The less I can get is 10 rivalry points, and I think I've tried it all in the last conversation, I wanna know if this is all or that if it's actually possible and I've screwed it up in some other point!
(And I've been really nice all the time!)


I don't think there's really a way not to get rivalry points while as a mage during that quest. Don't worry about it too much, tho. Those ten points are easy enough to make up.

Many people have said that they reached max friendship by the beginning of act 2, so don't worry if you run into a few bumps along the way.

Yeah, friendship is easy to get with Fen.

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Or you can play rivalry :P i'm biased though, I adore that path. Still, I think the least amount of rivalry you get from 'survival' and 'find out' options when he asks you what you are after. I love the 'find out' sarcastic response (not sure if it's the same for diplomatic/agressive personality) it sounds like a flirt line :).

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Recording the dog video now I will post the link soon.

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Has anyone really taken a look of the map of Thedas? I mean, holy **** Fenris. You crossed thousands of miles. I have a new respect for the elf.

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Now that you mentioned it :P His comment on the wounded cost is amusing too :)

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UltiPup wrote...

Has anyone really taken a look of the map of Thedas? I mean, holy **** Fenris. You crossed thousands of miles. I have a new respect for the elf.


It's pretty far indeed!

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SurrealSadi wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

Trying to figure out how to say "I love you" in Arcanum. Obvious the language takes roots in Latin, but they merge **** together so I am not sure how to piece it together.

Well, beloved in Latin is Amanda(trust me, it's my RL life). I believe the root word is Amam or Ama...


I believe it is amor ( by what translators give me ). Ei amor(take on some suffix) would POSSIBLY give "I love" but I cannot pinpoint a proper word for "you" as directed towards a single person.

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UltiPup wrote...

Has anyone really taken a look of the map of Thedas? I mean, holy **** Fenris. You crossed thousands of miles. I have a new respect for the elf.

Makes Danarius seem all the more... desperate? Determined? Creepy? if he managed to track him all that way. granted, it did take him years, but still...

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dog video www.youtube.com/watch

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I love how most of my companions understand my dog. He is really like one of the guys.

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SurrealSadi

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UltiPup wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

Trying to figure out how to say "I love you" in Arcanum. Obvious the language takes roots in Latin, but they merge **** together so I am not sure how to piece it together.

Well, beloved in Latin is Amanda(trust me, it's my RL life). I believe the root word is Amam or Ama...


I believe it is amor ( by what translators give me ). Ei amor(take on some suffix) would POSSIBLY give "I love" but I cannot pinpoint a proper word for "you" as directed towards a single person.


Wikipedia wrote...

Amāre is the basic word for to love, as it still is in Italian today. The Romans used it both in an affectionate sense as well as in a romantic or sexual sense. From this verb come amans—a lover, amator, "professional lover," often with the accessory notion of lechery—and amica, "girlfriend" in the English sense, often as well being applied euphemistically to a prostitute. The corresponding noun is amor (the significance of this term for the Romans is well illustrated in the fact, that the name of the City, Rome—in Latin: Roma—can be viewed as an anagram for amor, which was used as the secret name of the City in wide circles in ancient times),[26] which is also used in the plural form to indicate love affairs or sexual adventures. This same root also produces amicus—"friend"—and amicitia,
"friendship" (often based to mutual advantage, and corresponding
sometimes more closely to "indebtedness" or "influence"). Cicero wrote a
treatise called On Friendship (de Amicitia), which discusses the notion at some length. Ovid wrote a guide to dating called Ars Amatoria (The Art of Love), which addresses, in depth, everything from extramarital affairs to overprotective parents.



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UltiPup wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

Trying to figure out how to say "I love you" in Arcanum. Obvious the language takes roots in Latin, but they merge **** together so I am not sure how to piece it together.

Well, beloved in Latin is Amanda(trust me, it's my RL life). I believe the root word is Amam or Ama...


I believe it is amor ( by what translators give me ). Ei amor(take on some suffix) would POSSIBLY give "I love" but I cannot pinpoint a proper word for "you" as directed towards a single person.


Keep in mind, Latin is one of those languages like Spanish, with lots of conjugations of words.  Grammar is important for figuring that out.  So, basically you have 'AMO', which is 'I love' and 'TE' which is 'You'.  In the end, it becomes 'Te Amo'.

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Rheia wrote...

Or you can play rivalry :P i'm biased though, I adore that path. Still, I think the least amount of rivalry you get from 'survival' and 'find out' options when he asks you what you are after. I love the 'find out' sarcastic response (not sure if it's the same for diplomatic/agressive personality) it sounds like a flirt line :).


I thought the same! She was kind of flirty there, wasn't she?
I guess she was already rawring for him.

I'd say that there's no difference between the lines (regarding paragon/renegade or, er, diplomatic/agressive LOL) unless you get to see the icon on the wheel! I've seen that if you pick one or the other you get to "unlock" responses, but they're usually on the (bottom) left side of the wheel and have the correspondant icon!

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Fenn wrote...

 Dog video www.xfire.com/video/43cb6d/

LOL, that was awesome. Thanks!

I was worried when I heard the dog was just a summonable DLC thing that he wouldn't be as intigrated as DA:O's dog. I'm glad they gave him a lot of interaction.

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DemonSaya wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

Trying to figure out how to say "I love you" in Arcanum. Obvious the language takes roots in Latin, but they merge **** together so I am not sure how to piece it together.

Well, beloved in Latin is Amanda(trust me, it's my RL life). I believe the root word is Amam or Ama...


I believe it is amor ( by what translators give me ). Ei amor(take on some suffix) would POSSIBLY give "I love" but I cannot pinpoint a proper word for "you" as directed towards a single person.


Keep in mind, Latin is one of those languages like Spanish, with lots of conjugations of words.  Grammar is important for figuring that out.  So, basically you have 'AMO', which is 'I love' and 'TE' which is 'You'.  In the end, it becomes 'Te Amo'.


Spaniard here.

Actually, "amar" is "to love", which would be the infinitive of the verb. "Amo" would be "I love", meaning that you actually conjugate the person who executes the verb.
(Also, amar is a verb with way of "ye olde spanish" feeling, but it'd be cool for a story settled up in these times) 
Not that this matters much in all the Fenris discussion, but I felt I could give my two cents here with reason. :P:lol:


Edit: Also, as far as I can remember Latin has way more conjugations than Spanish, meaning there matter way more things than the time/intention of the action and the person who is executing it but I wouldn't know.

Modifié par Mentatzoee, 28 mars 2011 - 02:05 .


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DemonSaya

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Mentatzoee wrote...

DemonSaya wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

UltiPup wrote...

Trying to figure out how to say "I love you" in Arcanum. Obvious the language takes roots in Latin, but they merge **** together so I am not sure how to piece it together.

Well, beloved in Latin is Amanda(trust me, it's my RL life). I believe the root word is Amam or Ama...


I believe it is amor ( by what translators give me ). Ei amor(take on some suffix) would POSSIBLY give "I love" but I cannot pinpoint a proper word for "you" as directed towards a single person.


Keep in mind, Latin is one of those languages like Spanish, with lots of conjugations of words.  Grammar is important for figuring that out.  So, basically you have 'AMO', which is 'I love' and 'TE' which is 'You'.  In the end, it becomes 'Te Amo'.


Spaniard here.

Actually, "amar" is "to love", which would be the infinitive of the verb. "Amo" would be "I love", meaning that you actually conjugate the person who executes the verb.
(Also, amar is a verb with way of "ye olde spanish" feeling, but it'd be cool for a story settled up in these times) 
Not that this matters much in all the Fenris discussion, but I felt I could give my two cents here with reason. :P:lol:


"Te Amo" is the Latin version.  I googled it  :P

http://www.links2lov...u_languages.htm

Modifié par DemonSaya, 28 mars 2011 - 02:08 .