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#33826
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Just woken up, I wanna start a new FF but gotta finish this other one which is annoying me now.

Might try and play a little bit of DA2 today but have a crit tomo so should do some work...

Oh Fenris !

#33827
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I don't see why Fenis' name is always on those most hated lists 0.o

For starters he makes an awesome party member: Either as a Tank or as a damage dealer.
He is actualy quite easy to make like or hate you despite what people think and he is one of the few who actually has decent bonus' on both! (Rival foe +10% crit for a DD fenris, friendship for a +10% magic res Tank fenris, which my current fenris tank now has 64% magic res :D)

His additions to dialog are also awesome, when I first started using him I found myself loving him more and more for all the extra choices. Mainly death related >:D

So yeah... Fenris++

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Jmaru7 wrote...

I don't see why Fenis' name is always on those most hated lists 0.o

For starters he makes an awesome party member: Either as a Tank or as a damage dealer.
He is actualy quite easy to make like or hate you despite what people think and he is one of the few who actually has decent bonus' on both! (Rival foe +10% crit for a DD fenris, friendship for a +10% magic res Tank fenris, which my current fenris tank now has 64% magic res :D)

His additions to dialog are also awesome, when I first started using him I found myself loving him more and more for all the extra choices. Mainly death related >:D

So yeah... Fenris++

I don't see why either. I think it's just that the majority of posters are pro-mage (almost blindly so), and so anyone who either has something bad to say about mages or something good to say about the Chantry gets hate. Sebastian, Carver and Fenris, specifically.

The thing that gets me is that anyone who actually listens to Fenris should be able to understand his logic. I thought I'd be completely pro-mage when I got this game, but he makes a good argument for some kind of regulation. It's not 'one bad experience' that made him 'hate all mages', as I've seen a few people generalize. He lived in a world of free mages, he's seen the corruption that thrives in such a world. He has valid reasons for his opinions and it's silly to expect him to change them because one mage (or one person with a mage sibling) is different than the scores of mages he's met and seen do horrible things.

There's also a misconception that he hates all mages unconditionally, which isn't true. Or the idea that because Hawke and Fenris disagree about mages that means he hates Hawke, which isn't true either.

In general people really need to stop closing themselves off from the rivalry paths or immediately label characters bad just because they don't fawn over Hawke. Conflict is good. It's real. A character doesn't have to exist to stroke the PC's ego.

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@Aris true, rivalry in this game does not mean hate - just different opinions - which is healthy

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hetero man = fenris sucks
man in a relationship = fenris sucks
man in a relationship with a fennie = fenris sucks and is gay and emo

need to call mr. freud

#33831
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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Jmaru7 wrote...

I don't see why Fenis' name is always on those most hated lists 0.o

For starters he makes an awesome party member: Either as a Tank or as a damage dealer.
He is actualy quite easy to make like or hate you despite what people think and he is one of the few who actually has decent bonus' on both! (Rival foe +10% crit for a DD fenris, friendship for a +10% magic res Tank fenris, which my current fenris tank now has 64% magic res :D)

His additions to dialog are also awesome, when I first started using him I found myself loving him more and more for all the extra choices. Mainly death related >:D

So yeah... Fenris++

I don't see why either. I think it's just that the majority of posters are pro-mage (almost blindly so), and so anyone who either has something bad to say about mages or something good to say about the Chantry gets hate. Sebastian, Carver and Fenris, specifically.

The thing that gets me is that anyone who actually listens to Fenris should be able to understand his logic. I thought I'd be completely pro-mage when I got this game, but he makes a good argument for some kind of regulation. It's not 'one bad experience' that made him 'hate all mages', as I've seen a few people generalize. He lived in a world of free mages, he's seen the corruption that thrives in such a world. He has valid reasons for his opinions and it's silly to expect him to change them because one mage (or one person with a mage sibling) is different than the scores of mages he's met and seen do horrible things.

There's also a misconception that he hates all mages unconditionally, which isn't true. Or the idea that because Hawke and Fenris disagree about mages that means he hates Hawke, which isn't true either.

In general people really need to stop closing themselves off from the rivalry paths or immediately label characters bad just because they don't fawn over Hawke. Conflict is good. It's real. A character doesn't have to exist to stroke the PC's ego.


I agree with this. Hell, I even managed to get him to 100% friendship on my first playthrough, despite being lenient to mages at times. Because, well ... my Hawke was really nice to him otherwise. Despite getting a few rivalry points now and then. 

And you're also right that he doesn't hate all mages. He actually remarks to Anders in a banter that Bethany was strong, in regards to likelihood of getting corrupted. Not to mention that he can fight alongside you with the mages (he even comments on how odd that is) ... he really isn't close-minded, despite his strong opinions about mages. 

#33832
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I think Fen is one of the best thought out characters - he's not all 'mage - KILL IT', and those times he does tend towards it, it's easy to understand his reaction. After all, magic DID kind of screw up his life. Even though he does have is opinions, as Taura said, he's willing to put them on the back burner for the greater good - whether that's getting Hawke tail, or to save the city.

#33833
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A short scenario I had.

www.fanfiction.net/s/6858300/1/Forgive_and_Forget

:?

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Shail666 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Shail666 wrote...

You know, now I just want a picture of them cuddling in bed. I felt jipped during the love scene when Hawke gets up and looks beside her and sees Fenris pacing infront of the fireplace with all his armor on. xD

I want an option in the post-game save to tell Orana to go fetch your LI for some cuddles like the intercom button at the end of ME2.


I really miss the free-roam conversations one could open in Origins. Just the little "Anything you need my Dear?"s from Alistair was awesome. Sure, you end up not having anything else to say, but I felt like the relationship with the companions wasn't as open as it was in the first game. If that makes any sense...

I think I'll be heading to bed now too. I have class in the morning. :x Nice to meet you all!

...I'll be back tomorrow.


Anytime kisses were awesome :wub:

can you just imagine Anders get as upset/grossed out as Morrigan when Alistair and PC were making out infront of her, only with Fenris and Hawke?


i also missed those free roam conversations from the first game,and it would be great if we could have fenris for a cuddle or a kiss like with LI in me2!also imagine
Anders in Hawk estate:could i speak to Hawk there is an important task at hand..
Bodahn:hmmmmm she is busy right now....
Anders: But i must speak her now!!
Bodahn:Fenris is here and ....they had to...they are talking:whistle::whistle::whistle:
Anders:Him again??:devil:
Sandal: Enchantment???:o

#33835
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LOL @Rita

But yeah, totally second the sentiment - would like more interaction with the NPCs





BTW, we are MEG: http://www.facebook....203554763002971

Modifié par elenilote, 31 mars 2011 - 10:46 .


#33836
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rita25 wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Shail666 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Shail666 wrote...

You know, now I just want a picture of them cuddling in bed. I felt jipped during the love scene when Hawke gets up and looks beside her and sees Fenris pacing infront of the fireplace with all his armor on. xD

I want an option in the post-game save to tell Orana to go fetch your LI for some cuddles like the intercom button at the end of ME2.


I really miss the free-roam conversations one could open in Origins. Just the little "Anything you need my Dear?"s from Alistair was awesome. Sure, you end up not having anything else to say, but I felt like the relationship with the companions wasn't as open as it was in the first game. If that makes any sense...

I think I'll be heading to bed now too. I have class in the morning. :x Nice to meet you all!

...I'll be back tomorrow.


Anytime kisses were awesome :wub:

can you just imagine Anders get as upset/grossed out as Morrigan when Alistair and PC were making out infront of her, only with Fenris and Hawke?


i also missed those free roam conversations from the first game,and it would be great if we could have fenris for a cuddle or a kiss like with LI in me2!also imagine
Anders in Hawk estate:could i speak to Hawk there is an important task at hand..
Bodahn:hmmmmm she is busy right now....
Anders: But i must speak her now!!
Bodahn:Fenris is here and ....they had to...they are talking:whistle::whistle::whistle:
Anders:Him again??:devil:
Sandal: Enchantment???:o



Bodahn: Good Afternoon, Messare Anders. What can we do for you today?

Anders: Is Hawke in? I need to skeep with her about something of dire concequence.

Bodahn: She/he is, but currently .. indisposed.

Anders: ...Indisposed.

Sandal: Mister Fenris make BOOM!

Anders: Andraste's Flaming Nickers, I will never understand what Hawke see's in him!

#33837
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Wow took me a while to catch up, but then I kept being distracted by you lovley ladies in the MEG group xD

Time to fire up the creativity and get back to drawing... XD
Then maybe I will actually play some DA2 today. xD
Spent more time chatting about and drawing Fenris the last few days then actually playing the game XD

#33838
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 Don't know if anyone posted this.... BUT even so.... Louvette has done Fen....

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#33839
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Jenova65 wrote...

 Don't know if anyone posted this.... BUT even so.... Louvette has done Fen....

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I think I just died. 

<3

#33840
Heidenreich

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OGHREN MOMENT


"He..hehe...heh.. Asschabs"



>.>

#33841
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Heidenreich wrote...

rita25 wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Shail666 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Shail666 wrote...

You know, now I just want a picture of them cuddling in bed. I felt jipped during the love scene when Hawke gets up and looks beside her and sees Fenris pacing infront of the fireplace with all his armor on. xD

I want an option in the post-game save to tell Orana to go fetch your LI for some cuddles like the intercom button at the end of ME2.


I really miss the free-roam conversations one could open in Origins. Just the little "Anything you need my Dear?"s from Alistair was awesome. Sure, you end up not having anything else to say, but I felt like the relationship with the companions wasn't as open as it was in the first game. If that makes any sense...

I think I'll be heading to bed now too. I have class in the morning. :x Nice to meet you all!

...I'll be back tomorrow.


Anytime kisses were awesome :wub:

can you just imagine Anders get as upset/grossed out as Morrigan when Alistair and PC were making out infront of her, only with Fenris and Hawke?


i also missed those free roam conversations from the first game,and it would be great if we could have fenris for a cuddle or a kiss like with LI in me2!also imagine
Anders in Hawk estate:could i speak to Hawk there is an important task at hand..
Bodahn:hmmmmm she is busy right now....
Anders: But i must speak her now!!
Bodahn:Fenris is here and ....they had to...they are talking:whistle::whistle::whistle:
Anders:Him again??:devil:
Sandal: Enchantment???:o



Bodahn: Good Afternoon, Messare Anders. What can we do for you today?

Anders: Is Hawke in? I need to skeep with her about something of dire concequence.

Bodahn: She/he is, but currently .. indisposed.

Anders: ...Indisposed.

Sandal: Mister Fenris make BOOM!

Anders: Andraste's Flaming Nickers, I will never understand what Hawke see's in him!


After an hour Anders is sitting in his clinic and thinking.....
'Maybe it's the tatoos...i should have one....or two perhaps...or..?
nah i should buy Hawk a cat!!!....Nah sha has a mabari....
But he is toooo blonde and....
Varric just pops in:so are you blondie boy so are youB)B)

#33842
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*is working on a painting of Fenris for own vicarious viewing pleasure*

Nice to finally have a use for that blank space on my wall.

#33843
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Addai67 wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

 I am enjoying friendromancing Fenris with my agressive, serious business male warrior Hawke SO much, it's so cute seeing him mellow out whenthey're together. I can totally picture Hawke calling Fenris "my little wolf" :wub:

/fangurlin

You'd want to call him what Danarius called him?  :blink:


Well Fenris is also what Danarius called. I'm sure as hell not gonna start calling him Leto :lol:

#33844
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Namuri wrote...

^ Okay, here goes.
...this is gonna take awhile 8D;

Edit: Done. Msging you so that this topic can get back on track :D

WITH A FENRIS: (By http://sandman70460.deviantart.com/ on dA)

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^You were all thinking it.


NO. WAY.

That is exactly what my Warrior m!Hawke romancing Fenris looks like! Same, haircut, same haircolor, same skin tone, the stubble, what are the chances :lol:

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#33845
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I think I'll just leave this here.

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I was bored... sorry.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

The thing that gets me is that anyone who actually listens to Fenris should be able to understand his logic. I thought I'd be completely pro-mage when I got this game, but he makes a good argument for some kind of regulation. It's not 'one bad experience' that made him 'hate all mages', as I've seen a few people generalize. He lived in a world of free mages, he's seen the corruption that thrives in such a world. He has valid reasons for his opinions and it's silly to expect him to change them because one mage (or one person with a mage sibling) is different than the scores of mages he's met and seen do horrible things.

There's also a misconception that he hates all mages unconditionally, which isn't true. Or the idea that because Hawke and Fenris disagree about mages that means he hates Hawke, which isn't true either.

In general people really need to stop closing themselves off from the rivalry paths or immediately label characters bad just because they don't fawn over Hawke. Conflict is good. It's real. A character doesn't have to exist to stroke the PC's ego.


OMG THANK YOU!

Fenris provides such an interesting counterpoint to the entire story, I think.  It gets me all snarky when people say they hate Fenris because he's mean to mages.  He's seen what a mage-run society is like first hand.  He's seen the corruption and the weak jusitifcation for using blood magic with his own two eyes.  Maybe, oh, I don't know, he knows what he's talking about and he's just a little bit jusitifed in his distrust of mages and their 'woe is me' attitude.  Of course he's rude to Anders and outright hostile to Merill.  For pete's sake, one's an Abomination and they other is actively practicing blood magic! 

Does he have a huge blind spot when it comes to magic?  Yes.  But he's not 'All mages suck and should die, rarg!'.  He even says to Hawke in the very beginning that 'You are not Denarius.  What you will do remains to be seen'.  So he's not a rage-filled killing machine with a hard-on for killing mages.  He should be distrustful of mages (and heck, most people as he's been abused and mistreated his whole life).  He should be wary of magic. And he most certainly should not be swayed instantly by Hawke's dashing charm and good looks right off the bat.

So yeah.  I kind of love Fenris, mostly for making me see things from an angle I hadn't considered before. (And his "dashing charm" and good looks.)

#33847
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Greetings fellow Fengirls!

Anyone up for starting a "Fenris Swooning Club" group on Facebook to appreciate our badass broody elf? I haven't started any FB groups yet so I'm not quite sure how it works. But I would join such a group instantly xD

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Celbess wrote...

Greetings fellow Fengirls (a friend of mine invented this sweet blending of Fenris and fangirls, teehee)!

Anyone up for starting a "Fenris Swooning Club" group on Facebook to appreciate our badass broody elf? I haven't started any FB groups yet so I'm not quite sure how it works. But I would join such a group instantly xD



your friend is late, we've been Fen-izing words for weeks now :ph34r:



Fenfic
Fenmance
Fengirl



and our facebook group is MEG (Mysterious Elf Guy):bandit:

Look us up!:wub:

#33849
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Celbess wrote...

Greetings fellow Fengirls (a friend of mine invented this sweet blending of Fenris and fangirls, teehee)!

Anyone up for starting a "Fenris Swooning Club" group on Facebook to appreciate our badass broody elf? I haven't started any FB groups yet so I'm not quite sure how it works. But I would join such a group instantly xD


Only requirement is that you are a FenGirl! (or Boy)

And tell us who you are on BSN so we know to say Hi!

#33850
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Apirka wrote...

I think I'll just leave this here.

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I was bored... sorry.



... I think I love you.  

That was way better than my villain Alistair.
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