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I liked it, Alistair turned to the camera, broke through the fourth wall and said "swooping is bad". It was bad in an awesome sense.


Yep, honestly, I saw that as a shout out ot the SIB community on LJ.  DG has mentioned it before.  So to me?  While it might have been a bit on the cheese side, it made me happy.

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Tasmen wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I liked it, Alistair turned to the camera, broke through the fourth wall and said "swooping is bad". It was bad in an awesome sense.


Yep, honestly, I saw that as a shout out ot the SIB community on LJ.  DG has mentioned it before.  So to me?  While it might have been a bit on the cheese side, it made me happy.


This.

I think there was A LOT of fan service done in DA2 that people miss, or maybe I read too much into the little things.

#36153
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I liked Zevran and Nate's cameos, but I cannot even force myself to like Alistair's. :pinched: My husband's import had him show up as a Warden and I was like OMG HE'S AWESOME AGAIN and jealousy ensued and my bitterness over King Alistair grew even deeper. :lol:


I wanted Nate's cameo to be my favorite, oh did I.  I have some crazy love for THE Howe.  But I think Zevran was definitely my fav.  He might have looked different, but the moment he did that whole smile with the eyes thing and spoke, I was happy in all those happy places.

I'm hoping to see Warden Alistair during this current PT.  I've heard he's pretty darn awesome.

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Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I liked it, Alistair turned to the camera, broke through the fourth wall and said "swooping is bad". It was bad in an awesome sense.


Yep, honestly, I saw that as a shout out ot the SIB community on LJ.  DG has mentioned it before.  So to me?  While it might have been a bit on the cheese side, it made me happy.


This.

I think there was A LOT of fan service done in DA2 that people miss, or maybe I read too much into the little things.


If you read too much into things, then I do as well...  There were a couple of things that some of us noted in the game that made us go 'is that a shout out to fans? or did their minds go where our minds went?'. 

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Just my 2 cents...Anders is pretty much on the brink the whole time. He's fighting Justice but it's a battle he was always going to lose so he wants something, anything to hold on to. He's an emotional wreck who goes back and forth on everything, and as mentioned he does come on to Hawke pretty strongly and abruptly, I might add. His act 2 dialog about 'I'll drown us in blood' was disconcerting, and I agree with Dr. Doctor about the 'aching for you' line, it's just...creepy /Alistair voice/.
Fenris on the other hand Hawke gets to bond with as a friend, with playful banter and flirting. At the start of act 2 you can see that they're much closer and quite comfortable with each other, but whatever feelings they have is still just brimming beneath the surface. Then Hadriana shows up and Fen's hold on his emotions falters, allowing the relationship to really happen. Everything is more gradual, if a little chaotic, but Fen is loyal, and when it all falls into place for them it's a more satisfying conclusion, imo.

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Tasmen wrote...

Aeryn-Sun wrote...
I liked Zevran and Nate's cameos, but I cannot even force myself to like Alistair's. :pinched: My husband's import had him show up as a Warden and I was like OMG HE'S AWESOME AGAIN and jealousy ensued and my bitterness over King Alistair grew even deeper. :lol:


I wanted Nate's cameo to be my favorite, oh did I.  I have some crazy love for THE Howe.  But I think Zevran was definitely my fav.  He might have looked different, but the moment he did that whole smile with the eyes thing and spoke, I was happy in all those happy places.

I'm hoping to see Warden Alistair during this current PT.  I've heard he's pretty darn awesome.


Speaking of Warden Alistair, is he also supposed to be the one who shows up in the Deep Roads if Carver gets sick and Anders is with you? Or is it still Stroud?

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Still Stroud. Here's a question is awesome facial hair a requirement for being a high-ranking Warden. What with Duncan's beard and Stroud's moustache.

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Tasmen wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I liked it, Alistair turned to the camera, broke through the fourth wall and said "swooping is bad". It was bad in an awesome sense.


Yep, honestly, I saw that as a shout out ot the SIB community on LJ.  DG has mentioned it before.  So to me?  While it might have been a bit on the cheese side, it made me happy.


This.

I think there was A LOT of fan service done in DA2 that people miss, or maybe I read too much into the little things.


If you read too much into things, then I do as well...  There were a couple of things that some of us noted in the game that made us go 'is that a shout out to fans? or did their minds go where our minds went?'. 


I honestly really think they were shout out to the fans. As much as the whiney goes on here I do think there are a handful of things the company listens to. Or at least a few of the people behind the company that can do something about it.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Still Stroud. Here's a question is awesome facial hair a requirement for being a high-ranking Warden. What with Duncan's beard and Stroud's moustache.


Thanks. Must be. That darkspawn blood must be DA-Rogaine. :lol: Wonder when Alistair will start growing his beard?

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Tasmen wrote...

Aeryn-Sun wrote...
I liked Zevran and Nate's cameos, but I cannot even force myself to like Alistair's. :pinched: My husband's import had him show up as a Warden and I was like OMG HE'S AWESOME AGAIN and jealousy ensued and my bitterness over King Alistair grew even deeper. :lol:


I wanted Nate's cameo to be my favorite, oh did I.  I have some crazy love for THE Howe.  But I think Zevran was definitely my fav.  He might have looked different, but the moment he did that whole smile with the eyes thing and spoke, I was happy in all those happy places.

I'm hoping to see Warden Alistair during this current PT.  I've heard he's pretty darn awesome.


Warden Alistair is the best of the 3 by far, I think, and since my canon warden (and, in fact, every PT except my current one) has been my default, I'm pleased.  I used to feel like the Wardenstair fans got screwed (in a bad way), but now, not so much. :)  Of the cameos, this is by far my favorite. I like to wonder if the helmed Warden with him is the Hero of Ferelden, trying not to be recognized. Hard to say, but it's a pleasant thought.

DrunkenStair makes me sad, too.  (I used one of my husband's saves and got that since he recruited Logain.)

Back to Fenris, though...I'm finding myself by far looking forward to a post-patch playthrough.  No sleeping with another woman that he hates to save his life, no forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do...Yeah. I'm missing the FenMance right now. :) (And I am a die-hard Alistair fan. I never thought I'd say that. :) )

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 08 avril 2011 - 04:14 .


#36161
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^

I was excited when I got the letter to go see Alistair....when I got there I couldn't look at him. I had to google what he looked like in DA:O to wash away what I saw

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Alistair seemed a bit fatter in the cheeks, but that was nothing compared to Zevran's face lift. :/

I hope we will get Fenris in DA3 though (and without face lifts please, he is gorgeous just the way he is)! Although how they'll pull it off is beyond me since you can romance pretty much anyone in DA2... Unless they make whoever-you-stayed-with-in-the-end-of-DA2 your companion in DA3? Which would mean a lot of work... Or... unless they do pull the old band together - or most of them anyway. That could also work. Like some members from ME are on ME2 as well. Hmm.

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Dont know if anyone linked this, but good grief is this good. Reminds me so much of Helen0rz topic earlier, way hot!
http://www.fanfictio...and_Compulsion#

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Tasmen wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I liked it, Alistair turned to the camera, broke through the fourth wall and said "swooping is bad". It was bad in an awesome sense.


Yep, honestly, I saw that as a shout out ot the SIB community on LJ.  DG has mentioned it before.  So to me?  While it might have been a bit on the cheese side, it made me happy.


>cheese

>Alistair

Why are you surprised again?

#36165
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Hmm... do we ever find out what Fenris expected to be in the chest in the Bait and Switch quest?

I thought it might be Danarius' location, but I've never seen it confirmed.

#36166
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Something I just found, by littlegoblet.

hehehe.

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Hey, guys, remember a while back some of us were wondering about the animator who worked on Fenris' character and scenes? Mr. Gaider had since mentioned that her name was Sarah, but I recently I also asked Ms. Kirby if she could share some more information. So.

Her name is Sarah Hayward.I don't know if she has an account on the social site, if you want to send her fan mail, you can do that through Bioware. Our address is:

BioWare Edmonton
200, 4445 Calgary Trail
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada T6H 5R7

She did a fantastic job, and I'm pretty sure she did the animations for Anders as well.


So, if any of you would like to say thanks, the info is here.

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Rheia wrote...

Hey, guys, remember a while back some of us were wondering about the animator who worked on Fenris' character and scenes? Mr. Gaider had since mentioned that her name was Sarah, but I recently I also asked Ms. Kirby if she could share some more information. So.

Her name is Sarah Hayward.I don't know if she has an account on the social site, if you want to send her fan mail, you can do that through Bioware. Our address is:

BioWare Edmonton
200, 4445 Calgary Trail
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada T6H 5R7

She did a fantastic job, and I'm pretty sure she did the animations for Anders as well.


So, if any of you would like to say thanks, the info is here.


Does she had an dA account, like Matt? She did a fantastic job on Fenris and Anders!

#36169
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Hehe, I don't know :). This was all the info that was given to me. I do plan to send her a letter... wish I could include chocolate, but there's no saying how it'd travel from Spain to Canada :P.

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*makes a post to bump thread to next page*

So I'm attempting to rivalmance Fenris and Friendmance Anders in the same play through.. but its killing me to see the +RED for fenris... I'm almost finished with act1 and fenris isn't far enough into rivalry for me to be happy..

I'm really tempted to go back to the begining of act1 and just bloody friend him.. but then I wont be able to leave him for anders.. RAGE. *cries*

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Azakias wrote...

Ah, the glory of fantasy romance. It sounds all sorts of awesome, but in reality, I wouldn't touch men like Anders of Fenris with a ten foot pole.


LOL! very true.

And if I'm THAT stupid to fall for them right off the bat (you know, in the beginning, everything's a mystery), it'd be sexy at first and then soon after I'd just wanna shoot myself and leave or something.


Shacary wrote...

Dont know if anyone linked this, but good grief is this good. Reminds me so much of Helen0rz topic earlier, way hot!
http://www.fanfictio...and_Compulsion#


I'll be reading this today LOL!

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[quote]Azakias wrote...

Ah, the glory of fantasy romance. It sounds all sorts of awesome, but in reality, I wouldn't touch men like Anders of Fenris with a ten foot pole.[/quote]

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True about Anders - though in reality he'll probably be locked up in some mental institution. For life.
I don't quite understand what's wrong with a real-life Fen though. I'd go for it :D

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DarthMael wrote...

Azakias wrote...

Ah, the glory of fantasy romance. It sounds all sorts of awesome, but in reality, I wouldn't touch men like Anders of Fenris with a ten foot pole.


True about Anders - though in reality he'll probably be locked up in some mental institution. For life.
I don't quite understand what's wrong with a real-life Fen though. I'd go for it :D


Other than the fact that he's a bit of a hate-monger and has no qualm about killing people in very brutal ways, yeah.  They're both undesirables in real life.

But that is hardly the point since this is a fantasy game and all.  They're both smoking hot regardless.

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Heh, are we going to start a Sarah Edward fan club? I'd join.   Image IPB

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[quote]DarthMael wrote...

[quote]Azakias wrote...

Ah, the glory of fantasy romance. It sounds all sorts of awesome, but in reality, I wouldn't touch men like Anders of Fenris with a ten foot pole.[/quote]

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True about Anders - though in reality he'll probably be locked up in some mental institution. For life.
I don't quite understand what's wrong with a real-life Fen though. I'd go for it :D

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The guy has a serious chip on his shoulder. Even if it is not directed at you, the negativity he exudes might be enough to make it an unhappy relationship at best. At worst, the abuse he suffered would turn into a spiralling cycle.

I don't know the numbers and it isnt a hard, fast rule, but people who spent much of their developement being abused are at a much higher risk of perpetrating the abuse.

His hatred of mages, while a great plot characteristic, is a huge hangup. While he doesnt see the world in complete absolutes, he comes pretty close. With such a large part of himself devoted to that particular belief, it is almost as bad as Anders's obsession. It'd be like dating a member of PETA. Sure, I like animals alright, but not to the HOLYCRAPTHEYNEEDHUMANRIGHTS extent. Even if he tried to agree to disagree, his personality won't let him completely let go, as evidenced by his continued comments on magees through the entirety of the game.

Right off the bat, I can identify that Fenris has anger management issues, problems with authority (rightly so, but what causes him to disobey the magisters can also translate into rebellion against proper laws and authorities as well) and his worldview is highly skewed because of the extreme events that occured in his life.

I think it's safe to say that if he existed in real life there's a good chance that he'd gone through juvie and a possible prison sentence of two. Probably because of his own moral compass, which is different from everone around him. He exhibits certain sociopathic tendencies, after all, in a rather negative way.

Ugh. Hope that got my point across. Seems inadequate.