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[ThatDancingTurian]

Sue wrote...

I agree.  It is in both bloodline.  It is also like the chances of have twins.  sometimes skips a generation.  who knows!

I hadn't thought about the twins thing. I would just hope if Fenris/F!Hawke had twins that either both would have magic or neither would. I can't help but feel like otherwise they'd have a Carver situation all over again. I don't think Fenris would go so far as to intentionally play favorites, but I have no doubt he'd be a lot stricter with the mage child because of worry if nothing else.

And after all, resentment issues seem to be in the genes too.

[Helen0rz]

ANNNNND Don't forget, Fenris is an elf and does not know much about his side of the family. Varania is a mage, no? a baby of Fenris/Hawke = more than likely a mage baby

which, I wouldn't have mind, a Fenris baby is just too cute to resist...

I don't think he would oppose to having children with Hawke, but I also don't think it's something he plan on doing either. I dont think he would like a mage baby, but it's not his to chose either. He would love him/her either way, but I also see him being conflicted because of his views on mages (regardless of whether Hawke is a mage). Having a mage baby (or more) would probably shake up his views on mages, and probably disown that said kid if he/she dab into blood magic

[Tasmen]

Addai67 wrote...

Especially if you side with the mages, Hawke and Fenris are going to be on the run and in the thick of (or trying to stay out of) a world war. I don't picture there being happy families any time soon, if ever. I for one don't have any inclination to picture my PC trying to bring a kid into that. I once liked to picture Zevran and my elf mage Warden having a cute elf baby, but hearing how Zevran's path develops makes me erase that idea out of my head, too. Have to leave the procreatin' to people less on the front lines.

I'm of the same mind as you.

[MelRedux]

Seriously? Babies?

[ThatDancingTurian]

Mel_Redux wrote...

Seriously? Babies?

Babies happen. It's an interesting 'what if'.

[Helen0rz]

 I know this is not exactly Fenris related but I lol'd

and apparently this Hawke is not a friend of Fenris'<_<

[KakashiMorph]

Helen0rz wrote...

 I know this is not exactly Fenris related but I lol'd
(pic)
and apparently this Hawke is not a friend of Fenris'<_<

I lol'd too.  Especially at the "why don't you blow up the chantry while you're at it" and the "naked pics of Meredith" bits. XD
But Fenris is not a douchebag lol. (And Hawke would keep spamming him with dirty e-mails or chain mails to annoy him further, if at rivalry?)

[ThatDancingTurian]

As much as I love Sebastian, I'm not sure I'd ever give him my e-mail. He seems like one of those guys who is a total grandma about computers and will forward you brightly colored spam mails to 'brighten your day' about how the Maker Loves You and it's covered in blinkies and pictures of babies cuddling kittens.

[Helen0rz]

KakashiMorph wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

 I know this is not exactly Fenris related but I lol'd
(pic)
and apparently this Hawke is not a friend of Fenris'<_<

I lol'd too.  Especially at the "why don't you blow up the chantry while you're at it" and the "naked pics of Meredith" bits. XD
But Fenris is not a douchebag lol. (And Hawke would keep spamming him with dirty e-mails or chain mails to annoy him further, if at rivalry?)

I picture my Hawke doing this:

send an email, titled: I lol'd

Fenris open email, there's a link

the link would be either: dirty pics with their face photoshop on to it or Fenris gets rickrolled  

[Tealsie]

Helen0rz wrote...

KakashiMorph wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

 I know this is not exactly Fenris related but I lol'd
(pic)
and apparently this Hawke is not a friend of Fenris'<_<

I lol'd too.  Especially at the "why don't you blow up the chantry while you're at it" and the "naked pics of Meredith" bits. XD
But Fenris is not a douchebag lol. (And Hawke would keep spamming him with dirty e-mails or chain mails to annoy him further, if at rivalry?)

I picture my Hawke doing this:

send an email, titled: I lol'd

Fenris open email, there's a link

the link would be either: dirty pics with their face photoshop on to it or Fenris gets rickrolled  

Or the naked pics of Meredith?
Hey, if Hawke has to suffer so does Fenris.

[Aeryn-Sun]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

As much as I love Sebastian, I'm not sure I'd ever give him my e-mail. He seems like one of those guys who is a total grandma about computers and will forward you brightly colored spam mails to 'brighten your day' about how the Maker Loves You and it's covered in blinkies and pictures of babies cuddling kittens.

LOL, oh lawd, so true. He'd be the one I'd forward inappropriate spam to, always.

[Helen0rz]

Tealsie wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

KakashiMorph wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

 I know this is not exactly Fenris related but I lol'd
(pic)
and apparently this Hawke is not a friend of Fenris'<_<

I lol'd too.  Especially at the "why don't you blow up the chantry while you're at it" and the "naked pics of Meredith" bits. XD
But Fenris is not a douchebag lol. (And Hawke would keep spamming him with dirty e-mails or chain mails to annoy him further, if at rivalry?)

I picture my Hawke doing this:

send an email, titled: I lol'd

Fenris open email, there's a link

the link would be either: dirty pics with their face photoshop on to it or Fenris gets rickrolled  

Or the naked pics of Meredith?
Hey, if Hawke has to suffer so does Fenris.

I'd rather forward that to Orsino 

[Tealsie]

Helen0rz wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

KakashiMorph wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

 I know this is not exactly Fenris related but I lol'd
(pic)
and apparently this Hawke is not a friend of Fenris'<_<

I lol'd too.  Especially at the "why don't you blow up the chantry while you're at it" and the "naked pics of Meredith" bits. XD
But Fenris is not a douchebag lol. (And Hawke would keep spamming him with dirty e-mails or chain mails to annoy him further, if at rivalry?)

I picture my Hawke doing this:

send an email, titled: I lol'd

Fenris open email, there's a link

the link would be either: dirty pics with their face photoshop on to it or Fenris gets rickrolled  

Or the naked pics of Meredith?
Hey, if Hawke has to suffer so does Fenris.

I'd rather forward that to Orsino 

I think that would earn you an automatic "TOTALLY NOT ASKING FOR YOUR HELP IN 'LAST STRAW' EVEN IF YOU ARE CHAMPION"
Poor Orsino cannot unsee... and he'll hate you for it.
...I would probably send Seb some of Isabela's friend fiction.  because I know he's curious.

[NugWrangler]

KakashiMorph wrote...

I was just wondering... What kind of dad would Fenris make? Lol. It is reasonable to assume that once all this is over and he actually settles down with Hawke, if Hawke is a female they would probably have little babies.
I think he would spoil them rotten, but I have really no idea. XD

I can't see Fenris as being much of a father.  He would try in his own way I'm sure.  But, I just don't picture him being very affectionate and warm with kids, even his own.  I think a quiet solitary life with Hawke is what would make him the happiest, that's what my Hawke's would want too.

[Dr. Doctor]

Prompt Time:

Blooming Rose

Fenris: Ah the brothel, where we nearly got killed by blood mages last week.

Isabela: Fenris, you always focus on the negative. The brothel's good clean fun. (notices Fenris' stare) So its not always clean fun but we do know a healer.

Hawke: We're here on business not pleasure.

Isabela: Those things are one in the same here sweet thing.

Hawke: I for one don't think that being possessed by a desire demon would be something anyone would find pleasurable.

Fenris: Potential demonic possession nonwithstanding. Remind me how we're the Guard's unofficial exorcists?

Hawke: Because when I told Aveline I'd help her the sign over my head said "Serrah Hawke - Mage. Lost items found, raiders killed, psychiatric help." I forgot to list "no demons, animals, or children".

Fenris: So if you're the one who's going to banish the demon, why am I here?

Hawke: In case our possessed friend needs their innards removed.

Fenris: Fair enough, but why do we need her?

Hawke: Because we need someone dammed fool enough to act as bait.

Isabela: Hey!

[ThatDancingTurian]

Aeryn-Sun wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

As much as I love Sebastian, I'm not sure I'd ever give him my e-mail. He seems like one of those guys who is a total grandma about computers and will forward you brightly colored spam mails to 'brighten your day' about how the Maker Loves You and it's covered in blinkies and pictures of babies cuddling kittens.

LOL, oh lawd, so true. He'd be the one I'd forward inappropriate spam to, always.

Yes. Poor Sebastian, he'd have so much praying to do.

[MelRedux]

BPearl12 wrote...

KakashiMorph wrote...

I was just wondering... What kind of dad would Fenris make? Lol. It is reasonable to assume that once all this is over and he actually settles down with Hawke, if Hawke is a female they would probably have little babies.
I think he would spoil them rotten, but I have really no idea. XD

I can't see Fenris as being much of a father.  He would try in his own way I'm sure.  But, I just don't picture him being very affectionate and warm with kids, even his own.  I think a quiet solitary life with Hawke is what would make him the happiest, that's what my Hawke's would want too.

^^This.  I love the guy, but he has severe emotional, psychological, and anger issues.  These are not the makings of someone who should be a father.  These are also not things that will be healed overnight from the power of Hawke's LUVVVVV

Modifié par Mel_Redux, 09 avril 2011 - 01:55 .

[Azakias]

Mel_Redux wrote...

BPearl12 wrote...

KakashiMorph wrote...

I was just wondering... What kind of dad would Fenris make? Lol. It is reasonable to assume that once all this is over and he actually settles down with Hawke, if Hawke is a female they would probably have little babies.
I think he would spoil them rotten, but I have really no idea. XD

I can't see Fenris as being much of a father.  He would try in his own way I'm sure.  But, I just don't picture him being very affectionate and warm with kids, even his own.  I think a quiet solitary life with Hawke is what would make him the happiest, that's what my Hawke's would want too.

^^This.  I love the guy, but he has severe emotional, psychological, and anger issues.  These are not the makings of someone who should be a father.  These are also not things that will be healed overnight from the power of Hawke's LUVVVVV

This. I sure as hell wouldnt let him near my kids.

He's still sexy though. In a fantastical sort of way.

[Tasmen]

Mel_Redux wrote...

BPearl12 wrote...

KakashiMorph wrote...

I was just wondering... What kind of dad would Fenris make? Lol. It is reasonable to assume that once all this is over and he actually settles down with Hawke, if Hawke is a female they would probably have little babies.
I think he would spoil them rotten, but I have really no idea. XD

I can't see Fenris as being much of a father.  He would try in his own way I'm sure.  But, I just don't picture him being very affectionate and warm with kids, even his own.  I think a quiet solitary life with Hawke is what would make him the happiest, that's what my Hawke's would want too.

^^This.  I love the guy, but he has severe emotional, psychological, and anger issues.  These are not the makings of someone who should be a father.  These are also not things that will be healed overnight from the power of Hawkes LUVVVVV

Yep yep...

I realize it's far more 'romantic' think that the power of love can heal all wounds.  For me, that type of tale falls flat and feels totally one dimensional, something Fenris so is not imho. 

I can totally appreciate the desire to have the happily ever after that involves children, family, sunshine, rainbows and unicorns (or maybe not all of those ), but it just doesn't seem like the type of happily ever after Fenris would want.  It's just not true to the character as I see it.  I felt/feel the same way about Zevran.

[MelRedux]

IRL, I want a nice, good, and sweet man that I can mkae lots of babies with and we will live happily ever after and live our perfect lives in our perfect house with a perfect white picket fence.

In my stories, I want a mentally unstable elf that can rip the hearts out of people's chests. We will flee through the countryside together fighting monsters and bad people, and spend our nights getting drunk on wine and arguing and having wallsex.

[valuhree]

Modifié par valuhree, 09 avril 2011 - 02:06 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Mel_Redux wrote...

^^This.  I love the guy, but he has severe emotional, psychological, and anger issues.  These are not the makings of someone who should be a father.  These are also not things that will be healed overnight from the power of Hawke's LUVVVVV

Except that it's not overnight, it's over almost a decade. And in killing Danarius he freed himself from a lot of those unresolved issues allowing him to start healing. I don't see him as permanently damaged any more than Hawke is for the tragedies s/he has endured. I guess in relation to some of the other characters I just don't think he's that mentally unstable, honestly. He's pretty in touch with his feelings by Act 3.

I think Fenris is one of the few BW characters that seems like he -would- be happy with a domestic situation. He doesn't seem especially passionate about fighting, it was always a means to an end and that end was freedom. The only goal we knew him to have aside from revenge was to have a family connection through Varania. That didn't work out for him. That doesn't mean he's not suited for a family.

I've never been one of those 'they should get together and have babies!!11' types, I couldn't ever see my Wardens having kids and the idea of Shepard going domestic makes me cringe. I think it'd work for Hawke and Fenris, though. It really depends on the Hawke, but I don't at all think Fenris is incapable of settling down.

EDIT: I also disagree with the opinion that he would have trouble being affectionate with kids. All I can think of is when you give the option to kill Varania and he looks at her with the puppy eyes and says, "I would have given you everything." He didn't even know her, but she was family and that was enough for him.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 09 avril 2011 - 02:29 .

[Sue]

Totally agree. Out of all the characters they have the better chance.

[Aeryn-Sun]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

^^This.  I love the guy, but he has severe emotional, psychological, and anger issues.  These are not the makings of someone who should be a father.  These are also not things that will be healed overnight from the power of Hawke's LUVVVVV

Except that it's not overnight, it's over almost a decade. And in killing Danarius he freed himself from a lot of those unresolved issues allowing him to start healing. I don't see him as permanently damaged any more than Hawke is for the tragedies s/he has endured. I guess in relation to some of the other characters I just don't think he's that mentally unstable, honestly. He's pretty in touch with his feelings by Act 3.

I think Fenris is one of the few BW characters that seems like he -would- be happy with a domestic situation. He doesn't seem especially passionate about fighting, it was always a means to an end and that end was freedom. The only goal we knew him to have aside from revenge was to have a family connection through Varania. That didn't work out for him. That doesn't mean he's not suited for a family.

I've never been one of those 'they should get together and have babies!!11' types, I couldn't ever see my Wardens having kids and the idea of Shepard going domestic makes me cringe. I think it'd work for Hawke and Fenris, though. It really depends on the Hawke, but I don't at all think Fenris is incapable of settling down.

I agree with all this, and I want to add that I have never seen him as being "healed" by Hawke, whether love is involved or not. The healing that occurs in his life is his own. It's not dependent on anyone else, aside from physically backing him up and being a half-decent companion over the years. Unlike Merrill, for example, who comes across to me as incredibly emotionally dependent on Hawke (though I do like her romance quite a lot), Fenris is actively striving to work his demons out on his own. And by the endgame, he's made good progress.

Even though I personally don't run with the notion of baby Fenrises, I think he'd be a fine father. He's protective, he's loyal, he loves Hawke, and these are the kinds of things that are nurtured by parenthood - the negative things can be changed, or can be adapted to family life. I have four kids and it really is life altering, not just on the outside but the inside as well. At least in my case, I'm a completely different person than I was nine years ago. So, Fenis as a good papa isn't all that hard for me to believe.

[Sue]

parenthood is something you grow and learn as you are raising them. No rule books so to say. And he does have those qualities and I think a deep desire of what he has missed/forgotten.

Modifié par Sue, 09 avril 2011 - 02:44 .