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[Hekateras]

OMG I haz it

Varric is a dragon. Dragons hibernate for a long time sometimes. So Varric hibernates for three years, has one year of activity, then hibernates again. So OF COURSE he wouldn't be able to tell Cassandra of the "missing years"! He was hibernating back then! This also explains his love of gold, his awesomeness, his lack of aging, his dislike of the Deep Roads (too small and stuffy for his true form) and why he uses the unlikely Flemeth Ex Machina to cover the times when HE rescued the Warden's or the Champion's butt! It fits so perfectly! The Dragon Age, every event engineered by a dragon!

I am a genius!

PS. Dr. Doctor, thank you! You rock!

Modifié par Hekateras, 11 avril 2011 - 11:25 .

[silver-crescent]

Has this been posted here yet?



It's SO funny.

[Hekateras]

*dies*

[tankgirly]

@Madame Rose Crimsynn, I am.

Unless you guys want me to stop.

Modifié par tankgirly, 11 avril 2011 - 11:37 .

[SurrealSadi]

I like seeing that gif every page. It makes me giggle.

[Helen0rz]

silver-crescent wrote...

Has this been posted here yet?

[snips]

It's SO funny.

something inside almost snapped into many little pieces. I REFUSE TO HUG THE MONITOR! I REFUSE!

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Tealsie wrote...

Victia wrote...

I just hope that after we find out where the warden and champion are and they get back (they better get back bioware) they then get their happily ever after with their li!

DA3 will end with that games' hero barging into the villain's lair to find the Warden and Hawke on the ground; sacrificed in a blood magic ritual to give the villain(Flemeth, perhaps?) more power.
...

Nononononononono! (I am so completely going to de-rail)

The Crimsynn (Or MRC) Theorem: 

Basic Statement: Flemeth is gathering the bodies of heroes and legends for herself to possess and subtly take over Thedas (and maybe even attempt to invade the Black City, perhaps?). 

Formal Statement: If you remember the dialogue upon Sundermount when Flemeth comes out of the amulet, there is an investigate option to ask her if she is real (Hawke will say something along the lines of, "I don't understand. Are you some kind of vision?").

Flemeth's reply?

"(Laughs) Must I only be in one place at once? Bodies are such limiting things. I am but a fragment cast adrift from the whole. A bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm!"  

The above quote gives a highly strong implication that Flemeth cannot possess only just one body, but multiple bodies at once. Now, if Flemeth wants power and say... could use her little ability to possess multiple people at once, what's stopping her from possessing heroes and legends that are known to Thedas, and could influence the society to a huge degree (and were as well quite powerful) so she could bit by bit take over Thedas?

** Take note of two things: 1) Remember that Morrigan says in Origins (when you get the quest to kill Flemeth in Origins) that if Flemeth possessed a powerful body, she could transition into it easily. 2) We learned in Dragon Age 2 that not only mages could be possessed by demons, but also normal people (reference the Act I quest: "Enemies Among Us")**

The Warden: Was the Hero of Fereldan-- s/he stopped the Blight in less than two years, while most (supposedly) rage on for decades. S/he united an entire nation and races to stand against the Blight also within that time frame, managed to put a king (or queen, or both) upon the throne, and also was a great combatant (either with normal weapons and combat skills or with magic). Also, in Awakening, became the Commander of the Grey in Fereldan.

Hawke: Was the Champion of Kirkwall-- s/he rose to an extremely high standing in a city that s/he had never set foot in from absolutely nothing except having the fortune of having a drunk uncle who could get them into said city so s/he and their family could escape the Blight. S/he survived the Deep Roads, killed (or appeased) the Arishok of the Qunari, and was one of the people at the heart of the Mage VS Templar war that has begun to engulf the world. S/he was also a great combatant (also either with normal weapons and combat skills or with magic).

Common denominator between these two? Besides both of them having huge combat prowess and having a absolutely huge amount of political influence, they also BOTH had contact with Flemeth at one point or another.

Please note that I'm trying to add more to my (formal statement) part of my theory. *Files nails*

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 12 avril 2011 - 12:00 .

[Helen0rz]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Victia wrote...

I just hope that after we find out where the warden and champion are and they get back (they better get back bioware) they then get their happily ever after with their li!

DA3 will end with that games' hero barging into the villain's lair to find the Warden and Hawke on the ground; sacrificed in a blood magic ritual to give the villain(Flemeth, perhaps?) more power.
...

Nononononononono! (I am so completely going to de-rail)

The Crimsynn (Or MRC) Theorem: 

Basic Statement: Flemeth is gathering the bodies of heroes and legends for herself to possess and subtly take over Thedas (and maybe even attempt to invade the Black City, perhaps?). 

Formal Statement: If you remember the dialogue upon Sundermount when Flemeth comes out of the amulet, there is an investigate option to ask her if she is real (Hawke will say something along the lines of, "I don't understand. Are you some kind of vision?").

Flemeth's reply?

"(Laughs) Must I only be in one place at once? Bodies are such limiting things. I am but a fragment cast adrift from the whole. A bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm!"  

The above quote gives a highly strong implication that Flemeth cannot possess only just one body, but multiple bodies at once. Now, if Flemeth wants power and say... could use her little ability to possess multiple people at once, what's stopping her from possessing heroes and legends that are known to Thedas, and could influence the society to a huge degree (and were as well quite powerful) so she could bit by bit take over Thedas?

** Take note of two things: 1) Remember that Morrigan says in Origins (when you get the quest to kill Flemeth in Origins) that if Flemeth possessed a powerful body, she could transition into it easily. 2) We learned in Dragon Age 2 that not only mages could be possessed by demons, but also normal people (reference the Act I quest: "Enemies Among Us")**

The Warden: Was the Hero of Fereldan-- s/he stopped the Blight in less than two years, while most (supposedly) rage on for decades. S/he united an entire nation and races to stand against the Blight also within that time frame, managed to put a king (or queen, or both) upon the throne, and also was a great combatant (either with normal weapons and combat skills or with magic). Also, in Awakening, became the Commander of the Grey in Fereldan.

Hawke: Was the Champion of Kirkwall-- s/he rose to an extremely high standing in a city that s/he had never set foot in from absolutely nothing except having the fortune of having a drunk uncle who could get them into said city so s/he and their family could escape the Blight. S/he survived the Deep Roads, killed (or appeased) the Arishok of the Qunari, and was one of the people at the heart of the Mage VS Templar war that has begun to engulf the world. S/he was also a great combatant (also either with normal weapons and combat skills or with magic).

Common denominator between these two? Besides both of them having huge combat prowess and having a absolutely huge amount of political influence, they also BOTH had contact with Flemeth at one point or another.

Please note that I'm trying to add more to my (formal statement) part of my theory. *Files nails*

Also...I think I read somewhere that in one of the DA books, Maric and Loghain were strained in the Korcari Wilds at one point and Flemeth saved them (coincidence?). Flemeth gave him something in exchange for a promise (?) but no one knows what he promised Flemeth (supposedly)

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Helen0rz wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Tealsie wrote...

Victia wrote...

I just hope that after we find out where the warden and champion are and they get back (they better get back bioware) they then get their happily ever after with their li!

DA3 will end with that games' hero barging into the villain's lair to find the Warden and Hawke on the ground; sacrificed in a blood magic ritual to give the villain(Flemeth, perhaps?) more power.
...

Nononononononono! (I am so completely going to de-rail)

The Crimsynn (Or MRC) Theorem: 

Basic Statement: Flemeth is gathering the bodies of heroes and legends for herself to possess and subtly take over Thedas (and maybe even attempt to invade the Black City, perhaps?). 

Formal Statement: If you remember the dialogue upon Sundermount when Flemeth comes out of the amulet, there is an investigate option to ask her if she is real (Hawke will say something along the lines of, "I don't understand. Are you some kind of vision?").

Flemeth's reply?

"(Laughs) Must I only be in one place at once? Bodies are such limiting things. I am but a fragment cast adrift from the whole. A bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm!"  

The above quote gives a highly strong implication that Flemeth cannot possess only just one body, but multiple bodies at once. Now, if Flemeth wants power and say... could use her little ability to possess multiple people at once, what's stopping her from possessing heroes and legends that are known to Thedas, and could influence the society to a huge degree (and were as well quite powerful) so she could bit by bit take over Thedas?

** Take note of two things: 1) Remember that Morrigan says in Origins (when you get the quest to kill Flemeth in Origins) that if Flemeth possessed a powerful body, she could transition into it easily. 2) We learned in Dragon Age 2 that not only mages could be possessed by demons, but also normal people (reference the Act I quest: "Enemies Among Us")**

The Warden: Was the Hero of Fereldan-- s/he stopped the Blight in less than two years, while most (supposedly) rage on for decades. S/he united an entire nation and races to stand against the Blight also within that time frame, managed to put a king (or queen, or both) upon the throne, and also was a great combatant (either with normal weapons and combat skills or with magic). Also, in Awakening, became the Commander of the Grey in Fereldan.

Hawke: Was the Champion of Kirkwall-- s/he rose to an extremely high standing in a city that s/he had never set foot in from absolutely nothing except having the fortune of having a drunk uncle who could get them into said city so s/he and their family could escape the Blight. S/he survived the Deep Roads, killed (or appeased) the Arishok of the Qunari, and was one of the people at the heart of the Mage VS Templar war that has begun to engulf the world. S/he was also a great combatant (also either with normal weapons and combat skills or with magic).

Common denominator between these two? Besides both of them having huge combat prowess and having a absolutely huge amount of political influence, they also BOTH had contact with Flemeth at one point or another.

Please note that I'm trying to add more to my (formal statement) part of my theory. *Files nails*

Also...I think I read somewhere that in one of the DA books, Maric and Loghain were strained in the Korcari Wilds at one point and Flemeth saved them (coincidence?). Flemeth gave him something in exchange for a promise (?) but no one knows what he promised Flemeth (supposedly)

My theory on that was actually that Maric is Morrigan's father (that the "promise" was him sleeping with Flemeth). Mainly because I sort of saw Alistair as the equivilance of Arthur, and Morrigan as the equivilance of Morgan le Fey. Plus, I personally read "The Stolen Throne", and what happens is that Flemeth takes Maric inside her hut (alone) to make the secret "deal", while Loghain waits outside (this part happens in Loghain's POV). Maric comes back out hours later, and absolutely refuses to speak of what happened, and you never find out even when you're in Maric's POV.

I believe that Morrigan was also part of the initial plan, alongisde the OGB, but that perhaps when she was seperated from her mother in that time during Origins and discovered Flemeth's old Grimoire that she realized she didn't want to be a pawn of Flemeth, and then by the time of WH, she's now trying to stop Flemeth.

Probably entirely wrong on both of these though-- but I shall fight them 'til I'm proven wrong.

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 12 avril 2011 - 12:21 .

[Hekateras]

I'm doing a rough approximation at some rough colouring-in of that Fenris sketch I did earlier... Oddly enough, this one demands to be done in greyscale for now. O_o
[shamelessselfpromotion]



[/shamelessselfpromotion]

Modifié par Hekateras, 12 avril 2011 - 12:19 .

[Tealsie]

Helen0rz wrote...
Also...I think I read somewhere that in one of the DA books, Maric and Loghain were strained in the Korcari Wilds at one point and Flemeth saved them (coincidence?). Flemeth gave him something in exchange for a promise (?) but no one knows what he promised Flemeth (supposedly)

huh.. so... can we blame the Warden and Hawke disappearing on Maric?  

Edit: oooh, pretty picture.  
All self-promotion in this thread should be shameless...

Modifié par Tealsie, 12 avril 2011 - 12:21 .

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Tealsie wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...
Also...I think I read somewhere that in one of the DA books, Maric and Loghain were strained in the Korcari Wilds at one point and Flemeth saved them (coincidence?). Flemeth gave him something in exchange for a promise (?) but no one knows what he promised Flemeth (supposedly)

huh.. so... can we blame the Warden and Hawke disappearing on Maric?  

Edit: oooh, pretty picture.  
All self-promotion in this thread should be shameless...

According to my theory? No.

Am I totally waiting to be smashed by the Grand Poobah because my theory is completely and utterly wrong? Absolutely.

[Victia]

I don't know, I just have a feeling flemeth is too obvious to be the 'big bad', I actually think she is trying to help but in her own twisted kind of way! I am probably well off but that's my guess

[SurrealSadi]

Victia wrote...

I don't know, I just have a feeling flemeth is too obvious to be the 'big bad', I actually think she is trying to help but in her own twisted kind of way! I am probably well off but that's my guess

I...I have to agree. Flemeth is far too obvious to be a big bad you have to truly kill.

[Sue]

We will have to just wait for the Flemeth and Morrigan show down.

@Hekateras, great drawing, love the dark shade of gray.  Love selfpromotions..  keep them coming.

Modifié par Sue, 12 avril 2011 - 12:55 .

[Aeryn-Sun]

I could be completely wrong, and if I am then it's because I just love her so much that my view of her is warped, but I've never seen Flemeth as any sort of evil. I think she's up to something, definitely, and the common thread through everything is her, but...I don't know, I just can't see her as actively malevolent. Dangerous and crazy and unpredictable? Sure. But I hope she's not the "ultimate" bad guy in the DA games. I like her too much. Heh, maybe that's the point - I like her, so I assume she's not the enemy and that's when she eats my hero's intestines.

Just to shamelessly promote myself note, since I know some people here are watching the story - ff.net is still a nasty mess, so I won't be updating Little Pieces until it stabilizes for at least a few days. But I'm still writing, so I might have several to toss up at once when the stupid site starts behaving itself. Which I hope is soon because technical difficulties drive me nuts.

[Sue]

Yeah!!!! you are still writing Little Pieces, Aeryn.
Just finished the rest of the chapters today. Love Love Love them!! All the different type of emotions per story. Funny, touching, sad, silly, troubled and of course HAWT. I can not tell you which is my favorite, they all stand on their own and touch me in so many different ways. Thanks you!

[Tealsie]

I actually agree that Flemeth doesn't seem "evil".
Just not sure she's "good" or "neutral" either.
Flemeth is just... Flemeth. All in her own weird little category.

[ebidebby]

Yeah, I agree, I think of Flementh as very neutral. She likes to be mysterious and mess around in her way, but she doesn't seem interested in world domination or she would have done it already.

[Annarl]

I have always seen Flemeth as neutral. Like that elven god who's the trickster, I forget his name. She may have her own twisted motivations but she's not evil. But the story does not seem set in stone so she could become the enemy if the writers want.

[Helen0rz]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
My theory on that was actually that Maric is Morrigan's father (that the "promise" was him sleeping with Flemeth). Mainly because I sort of saw Alistair as the equivilance of Arthur, and Morrigan as the equivilance of Morgan le Fey. Plus, I personally read "The Stolen Throne", and what happens is that Flemeth takes Maric inside her hut (alone) to make the secret "deal", while Loghain waits outside (this part happens in Loghain's POV). Maric comes back out hours later, and absolutely refuses to speak of what happened, and you never find out even when you're in Maric's POV.

I believe that Morrigan was also part of the initial plan, alongisde the OGB, but that perhaps when she was seperated from her mother in that time during Origins and discovered Flemeth's old Grimoire that she realized she didn't want to be a pawn of Flemeth, and then by the time of WH, she's now trying to stop Flemeth.

Probably entirely wrong on both of these though-- but I shall fight them 'til I'm proven wrong.

That sounds awfull alot like Morrigan's dark ritual...judging by what you said, he DEFINITELY slept with Flemeth. that means Morrigan and Alistair are siblings. ew. 

but Flemeth is not indeed like what others have stated...she's a part of this bigger plan we're just not...sure of. She's got this power...crazy power if she can just look at Fenris and go "you're an ex-slave". I also read that Alistair could be half elven, was that in the Stolen Throne as well?

Aeryn-Sun wrote...

Just to shamelessly promote myself note, since I know some people here are watching the story - ff.net is still a nasty mess, so I won't be updating Little Pieces until it stabilizes for at least a few days. But I'm still writing, so I might have several to toss up at once when the stupid site starts behaving itself. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie] Which I hope is soon because technical difficulties drive me nuts.

and i'll be right there when you updates 

[UrsulaCousland]

I was intrigued by Flemeth in DA:O. DA2 made me a fan. I want to see more of her story.

@entire thread - good lord! Lots of cool art today, that's for sure - and Doc, brilliant as always.

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 12 avril 2011 - 01:08 .

[Aeryn-Sun]

Thanks, Sue! It's all David Gaider's fault for writing Fenris, though, so he gets all the praise/blame.

Tealsie wrote...

I actually agree that Flemeth doesn't seem "evil".
Just not sure she's "good" or "neutral" either.
Flemeth is just... Flemeth. All in her own weird little category.

Yes, exactly. I like the theories that she's Fen'Harel, who - even though the Dalish fear him - isn't really evil either. He's just, like Flemeth, moving the pieces on the chess board to make things happen. Why she does it? I don't know, but (and I definitely hope I'm wrong on this one!) I have a feeling that if I knew, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting as not knowing.

[Helen0rz]

 prettiness for everyone!


by SonyaM

[Tealsie]

Aeryn-Sun wrote...

Thanks, Sue! It's all David Gaider's fault for writing Fenris, though, so he gets all the praise/blame.

Tealsie wrote...

I actually agree that Flemeth doesn't seem "evil".
Just not sure she's "good" or "neutral" either.
Flemeth is just... Flemeth. All in her own weird little category.

Yes, exactly. I like the theories that she's Fen'Harel, who - even though the Dalish fear him - isn't really evil either. He's just, like Flemeth, moving the pieces on the chess board to make things happen. Why she does it? I don't know, but (and I definitely hope I'm wrong on this one!) I have a feeling that if I knew, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting as not knowing.

I wondered, for awhile, if Flemeth wasn't Mythal. She seemed to fit well enough with how Merrill described Mythal being, and the shrine where you take the amulet is called, by Merrill, a shrine to Mythal... if I remember correctly.
Tossed the theory when I came to the point of "well why, then, would they call her asha'bellanar?"(or however it's supposed to be spelled.)