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Helen0rz wrote...

I think....Fenris will shed a tear or two, but not cry, it's not something he does. He would be devastated that's for sure, goes on a rampage and ki anythinthat would relate to her death. He will leave Kirkwall, and start this on the run life again. Hakwe is his reason, his home and his stability. I picture Fenris being broken after hakwe's death and maybe never get over it


hm i dont think its something he would be never able to get over. i do think its something that will always stay with him but i think would be able to get over Hawke's death eventually. Well I see him as someone strong enough to overcome that. I don't think Anders would be able to though.

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#37452
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Its probably his name, but I always imagine Fenris howling if something happened to Hawke. Also, he probably would cry, but it may be in private. Remember how he acted after what happened in "Alone."

I also see Fenris dying of grief after some point. It may not be at the same time Hawke passes, but maybe years, even decades, later.There would be a hole in his heart that nothing could fill. It'd be a sad life without her.

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Re Fenris and tears, I am pretty sure in "Alone" when you tell him, after you all kill Danarius, that he isn't alone because he has you, that he is blinking back tears. It is very subtle because it lasts just a second or two, but I think that is the significance of that when he turns away from Hawke and blinks. So I think he is perfectly capable of shedding tears, even if they probably wouldn't be a waterfall of them, and I think he would do so for the love of his life dying tragically.

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@Ashera - I thought the same thing about Alone. Definitely looked like he was blinking them back for a few seconds there. It is really subtle, but it was one of my favorite parts from that scene solely for the unspoken emotional aspect if not anything else.

Fenris seems like the kind that would see crying as a sign of weakness in most situations, but I'm sure even he has a breaking point. He admits that meeting Hawke is the most important thing that's ever happened to him and I think losing her/him would be significantly devastating. So if there's anything that would prompt him to shed some tears, that would be it. Might be more private than not, kind of hard to judge with something that big. And I guess the shock value of Hawke's death might come into play there, too, and could affect his initial reaction/how he deals with it overall. It would be devastating for him no matter how it happened, but death via being killed on the battlefield might be a bit more shocking for him than death via prolonged illness. If a person or group of people was behind Hawke's death, though, I can definitely see them, their friends, their families, and their business associates all being turned into swiss cheese instantly. Pretty sure his revenge would consume him in that situation... he'd be out for blood.

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I *finally* got the romance for Fenris right last night, after trying on three separate play throughs. Yay, for me! I would always forget to do something or say something or give something. He's pretty awesome, and his romance is very... well, romantic. :)

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steph01423 wrote...

If a person or group of people was behind Hawke's death, though, I can definitely see them, their friends, their families, and their business associates all being turned into swiss cheese instantly. Pretty sure his revenge would consume him in that situation... he'd be out for blood.


YES!  This exactly.

God I love him.

#37457
Helen0rz

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So we all agree he'd kill ANY and EVERYONE that are involved with Hawke's death, via magical fisting, yes?

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The worst I can imagine for Fenris as far as Hawke dying would be an accidental death and/or a death that cannot be confirmed, like falling overboard in a storm, because he'd have no outlet for his loss. I can see him working himself into an early grave trying to find proof that she isn't dead. My Lord, the fanfic ideas that spawn from that... @_@

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Yes, we all agree, I think. lol. Magical fisting, sword slicing... heck maybe throw in some "you made me watch my Hawke die, now you must watch your family die" in there too. Somehow I can see him snapping that bad.

Imagine if mages did it... as if he didn't have enough reason to hate them already. :blink:

Edit: Eek, freak accidental death would be pretty bad... :(

Edit #2: To prevent all of the carnage and the severe emotional distress, I just hope that they can have a happy ending and live long happy lives and get old together. I think they deserve it by now with everything they've both had to deal with.

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Hekateras wrote...

I don't blame him for being angry when the Chantry is blown up. I'm just remarking that he gets angry and outraged, then *stands there and whines at Hawke to do something*. "Your first act must be to execute this traitor." He sounds like a little kid bugging his parents for something he wants to happen. Again for emphasis - he does nothing, and if *Hawke* does nothing, as well, he threatens to bring an army and INVADE KIRKWALL. It's like a kid saying that his big brother will come and beat you up, except with WAR. Since this kind of laid back letting-others-do-the-dirty-work behaviour is subtle but consistent throughout his arc, I do consider him well-written at least in that aspect.

I'm only judging by his companion quests and such, though. I don't think I ever actually took him with me on normal quests. To the people who did - how is he? Any memorable moments?


This is more of a general comment than a response to this post in specific, but I enjoy the hell out of your character analysis. I think you have Sebastian (who I love, but he is a very flawed person) dead to rights.

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Loved your stories Tashash, tankgirl and hekataris, I also hope there is another website for your submissions, no way to save and reread on this forum, to many pages to go thru! thanks for sharing all of you, great artwork as always too... O on the innuendos thing.... did we have> the obvious mb>
Take a dip in your pool,
Pick you herbs
Grace your wickedness

Im not very inventive but I am easily amused.

#37462
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Shacary wrote...

Loved your stories Tashash, tankgirl and hekataris, I also hope there is another website for your submissions, no way to save and reread on this forum, to many pages to go thru! thanks for sharing all of you, great artwork as always too... O on the innuendos thing.... did we have> the obvious mb>
Take a dip in your pool,
Pick you herbs
Grace your wickedness

Im not very inventive but I am easily amused.


Most of us have an account at FFN or dA. I know Tash has one on FFN (need to double check if she's on my watchlist in a minute). I usually submit my story at dA and FFN. So it won't lost in the fast theard current. :wizard:

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Aeryn-Sun wrote...

The worst I can imagine for Fenris as far as Hawke dying would be an accidental death and/or a death that cannot be confirmed, like falling overboard in a storm, because he'd have no outlet for his loss. I can see him working himself into an early grave trying to find proof that she isn't dead. My Lord, the fanfic ideas that spawn from that... @_@


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#37464
Aeryn-Sun

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This pages needs moar arts ~

Makes me giggle :3
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And why is Isabela always touching my things <_<
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Aeryn-Sun wrote...

The worst I can imagine for Fenris as far as Hawke dying would be an accidental death and/or a death that cannot be confirmed, like falling overboard in a storm, because he'd have no outlet for his loss. I can see him working himself into an early grave trying to find proof that she isn't dead. My Lord, the fanfic ideas that spawn from that... @_@


Do it... do it... do it...
I want to see what other writers could do with this... *Is typing something else furiously*

#37466
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GOD, this is so close to being the Hawke/Isabela/Fenris art I desperately, desperately crave.

#37467
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Awesome astrobats, one in every page.

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Helen0rz

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@ aeryn-sun

Do it aeryn!!! It'll make me sad but itll be goooood!!!

#37469
Helen0rz

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While we're on the subject of death and Fenris:

What do you think Hawke/your Hawke would do if Fenris is the one that dies? Or, make matters worse, he died because of her. It would anything, died to protect the woman he loves, lyric poisoning, poor judgement on Hawke's part, etc. I know the reaction to those are different...but still.

Thoughts?

#37470
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  On discussig   the  Varania  topic  the  other day, I  must  say I am  still having a very difficult time  finding any  sympathy kindness for her, even on the arguement that  slavery was   an easier  way of life when  compared to  the struggle of  being a free woman. Her betrayal  smacks of  poison  worse than anything even Isolde could have  pulled  off....  as far as   slavery is concerned ; I cannot imagine absolute power over someone being beneficent, while I figure she had to struggle with a new freedom to provide food and what not for herself that perhaps she didnt as a slave, well, think of the sexual abuse, physical abuse slaves face, How about a beating simply becuz they were playing tag and made to much noise? that sort of thing must have happened, becuz unfortunately in my job I have seen evidence of the atrocities humans do already THE same as that on children.
  Fenris had no idea what freedom meant, only that it might mean the oppurtunity for her and their Mum to escape the brutality they had endured already and ANY more they might have. It was a gift she was given, except like Goldana she rather thought it would be like getting a gold instead of a copper. It didnt measure up to her rose colored reality. She had to have contacted Danarius when she got the letter. She seems to indicated that she recognized he had no memory after the ritual, and perhaps to salvage her guilt that may assauge her, she figured he would forget the betrayal of this pain and she would have a good world better than she hoped, while he would still be alive and without regret... knowing nothing other than the time forward from the latest mind wipe. Cuz of course that is exactly what happens to him if he is returned to Danarius..
   I view her  actions  more as  a comfortable life  for herself as more important than the lives of anyone else,  even her  brother ....   I'd  kinda  like  more insight, if it doesnt  derail the  thread LOL 

#37471
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Helen0rz wrote...

While we're on the subject of death and Fenris:

What do you think Hawke/your Hawke would do if Fenris is the one that dies? Or, make matters worse, he died because of her. It would anything, died to protect the woman he loves, lyric poisoning, poor judgement on Hawke's part, etc. I know the reaction to those are different...but still.

Thoughts?

My canon Hawke lost his entire immediate family, generally under circumstances he could have forestalled if he were a little more omniscient or omnipotent and not, you know, just a guy with a stick who apparently can't grow a moustache. It would not be good for his teeth-and-fingernails grip on sanity. He would probably make his final descent into crazed ideological vigilantism and start tearing down nations that looked at him funny. Watch your back, Tevinter.

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Madame Rose Crimsynn

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@Helen

*Starts listing my characters*

Briseis Hawke: Crying-type. She'd probably get depressed. If it was caused by someone else, she'd probably burn them alive.

Kaalyss Hawke: Pig-headed/tries to see the glass always as half-full type. She'd refuse to admit she was upset unless she was by herself and even then, she'd try to convince herself she was OK. If it was caused by someone else, she'd cut them up. Slowly.

#37473
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Helen0rz wrote...

While we're on the subject of death and Fenris:

What do you think Hawke/your Hawke would do if Fenris is the one that dies? Or, make matters worse, he died because of her. It would anything, died to protect the woman he loves, lyric poisoning, poor judgement on Hawke's part, etc. I know the reaction to those are different...but still.

Thoughts?

Hawke "in general" seems kind of built for tragedy, so I think they would be heartbroken, and the "wound" would always hurt.... but I think they would move on eventually.
The two Hawkes that I've romanced him with... The rivalry one would probably... put on a "mask" I guess. Make it seem like she's alright and dealing with the loss, but is actually torn apart and heartbroken. The friendmance'd one would probably shut herself away for a long time, and even when she finally comes back out, she'd be depressed for quite awhile. Posted Image 
I think everything would be alot worse if Fenris had died for Hawke, in some way. Guilt often digs in deep, and makes the hurt last longer. Usually. Also adds an extra kind of torment(self-hate, sometimes).

#37474
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OO helen0rz, u know in dao when alsitair basically cans you when you are not noble etc>? well that betrayal convinced my CE [ my first PT, and no idea abotu hardening etc etc..} that she was glad to do the US. I mean she had lost so much and had nothing more to drive her forward than that dream of happiness...
I kinda think my Hawke is strong but she is weak too, the friends all drift apart and she would be totally alone, I think throwing herself into hopeless battles she cannot win would do the same as the US in DAO. There is a lot of terrible events to endure for the Hawkes inside of ten years, and to have just gained the one bright light in her life, to lose it.. IDK i think My Hawke go kinda beserk and without " tryin to die" still be like Zevran in picking battles they thought they could not win to find death....?

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So, something I'm working on for the weekly prompt...  figured I'd post it now...

DAO Crossover (Things are about to get really cracky, y'all)

The words echoed in Nathaniel’s head.  “A mother****ing brood-off.”  He should not have reacted as he had to the elf, but he was honestly getting tired of hearing over and over again:  Oh that Fenris, he’s so hot right now. 

Nathaniel Howe had been brooding for so many more years than that upstart. He had something to prove and prove it he would, on the runway of the glum.  He would see that elf’s dark and twisted background with an equally depressing one of this own. 

The men prepared to each in turn that their walk down the runway, a myriad of onlookers peering at them with expectant  eyes.    Nathaniel stretched, muscled arms rising above his head, shoulders rolling back, eyebrows furrowing.    Fenris pumped his arm, swinging it about in the air as if throwing some phantom item at a wall. 

They were ready, but there was only one problem…  “Who is going to judge this thing?”  Nathaniel had to admit Fenris’ voice had a lush quality to it, a deep timbre that was enough to melt the smallclothes off any nearby women or men.    Time had not been as kind to his voice, something gravely having happened to his tone, adding a roughened and hoarse edge to his speech that had not been there before.

From the thick of the crowd, blue eyes blazing steely, Loghain stepped forth, apparently visiting Kirkwall on very important Loghain business.  “I will.”

Loghain approached the two men, a hand placed upon each of their shoulders.  “This will be a straight brood-off.  Old school rules.  First brooder walks.  Second brooder duplicates then elaborates.”  He fisted a hand and pumped at the air.  “Alright men.  Let’s go to work.”  He snorted derisively.    “Brood.”