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#3751
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I'm surprised you folks aren't posting some Christmas themed Fenris pics.

A little disappointed as I'm sure he works for Santa.

Modifié par slimgrin, 24 décembre 2010 - 04:29 .


#3752
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Do it do it do it. I was going to do a Fenris light source joke pic but I got distracted by Tron. XD; Maybe Fenris wants his own glowing rubber suit? *plots*


HAH! I can already see everyone in a dark cave, Fenris their personal torch.

Fenris: "... You really need to invest in fire...." *grump*
Aveline: "Quiet, Elf! We must make haste! Time shan't be wasted in the shadow of your complaints!"
Varric: "Aveline, you need to move your head. You keep getting in the way of the light and I'm trying to read this damn map..."
Bethany: "... You realize grouping so close together is like a tactical treasure for the enemy should we be surprise attacked..."
Carver: "A-... Attacked?! You think we might be a-a-attacked?!"
Hawke: "*sighing, rolling eyes, shaking head*"

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^ Hahaha, Fenris the personal flashlight. He would be the blue-ring permanent guest party member and you'd have to drag him along like Yorda to place him where you need light. (Which would be adorable.)

Hawke: *leans in close to Fenris in a dark, damp cave*
Fenris: What are you doing.
Hawke: Well... it's cold.
Fenris: We are in a cave.
Hawke: I was thinking, you emit light, so I thought you might also... you know. Emit heat?
Fenris: Please go away.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 24 décembre 2010 - 04:36 .

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#3754
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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Asheris wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
I found the theme song to Fenris.

Funny, I was rather thinking about www.youtube.com/watch

But what about this?

Sexy.
I've been listening to this while illustrating him.
BTW, Pseudo, beautiful Varric illustration. Incredibly silly :)

For me, this song just seem to fit Fenris: youtu.be/gDyKnqr2wIU  (at least until we know more).
Also noticed the thread is back to being pinned...

#3755
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Pseudocognition wrote...

^ Hahaha, Fenris the personal flashlight. He would be the blue-ring permanent guest party member and you'd have to drag him along like Yorda to place him where you need light. (Which would be adorable.)

Hawke: *leans in close to Fenris in a dark, damp cave*
Fenris: What are you doing.
Hawke: Well... it's cold.
Fenris: We are in a cave.
Hawke: I was thinking, you emit light, so I thought you might also... you know. Emit heat?
Fenris: Please go away.


HAH!

^
Hawke: Drat... The sun is down again. And we are still soooo far away from the camp.
Bethany: I know! This is suuuch an issue. What are we to do? Walk around blindly into a trap?
Hawke: "I haven't the faintest clue! What shall we do?" 
*Both eye Fenris fiendishly*
Fenris: "... Oh for..." *Rolls eyes, takes off shirt, and follows the path in a grump.
Bethany & Hawke fist bump.
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buggirl wrote...

For me, this song just seem to fit Fenris: youtu.be/gDyKnqr2wIU  (at least until we know more).
Also noticed the thread is back to being pinned...


Yes. I was wondering why.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

^ Hahaha, Fenris the personal flashlight. He would be the blue-ring permanent guest party member and you'd have to drag him along like Yorda to place him where you need light. (Which would be adorable.)

Hawke: *leans in close to Fenris in a dark, damp cave*
Fenris: What are you doing.
Hawke: Well... it's cold.
Fenris: We are in a cave.
Hawke: I was thinking, you emit light, so I thought you might also... you know. Emit heat?
Fenris: Please go away.


HAH!

^
Hawke: Drat... The sun is down again. And we are still soooo far away from the camp.
Bethany: I know! This is suuuch an issue. What are we to do? Walk around blindly into a trap?
Hawke: "I haven't the faintest clue! What shall we do?" 
*Both eye Fenris fiendishly*
Fenris: "... Oh for..." *Rolls eyes, takes off shirt, and follows the path in a grump.
Bethany & Hawke fist bump.


LOVE THEM!

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Bethany & Hawke fist bump.


If only my sister was this cool.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...
I didn't read the full dialogue, but don't blame yourself. This has been a consistent issue that I've noticed from most fans across all boards.

To draw deeper insight into the character, I think it is fair to ask more broad questions and not necessarily ones that may affect your personal tastes. XD XD

Here are a few questions I was speculating.

What paradigm of philosophy most fits Fenris, depending on your familiarity with the subject? (Stoicism? Foucault?)

Do the marks themselves react to living beings? Is it possible that living people can actually drain energy from Fenris by touching the marks, ala the Lyrium Planty-Things you saw in the fade?


On an ideal day of relaxation and recuperation, what would Fenris enjoy doing?

Some insight.


That would be a good thing for that magister. Fenris could've been a lyrium well for him to use, as well as a guard dog of sorts that the magister could control with his blood-magey willpower if he was in danger. 

And one day Fenris' power went awry and he escaped.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

buggirl wrote...

For me, this song just seem to fit Fenris: youtu.be/gDyKnqr2wIU  (at least until we know more).
Also noticed the thread is back to being pinned...


Yes. I was wondering why.

*activates optimistic mode*

Maybe to make way for a big Christmas day Fenris news announcement?

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kwintessa wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...
I didn't read the full dialogue, but don't blame yourself. This has been a consistent issue that I've noticed from most fans across all boards.

To draw deeper insight into the character, I think it is fair to ask more broad questions and not necessarily ones that may affect your personal tastes. XD XD

Here are a few questions I was speculating.

What paradigm of philosophy most fits Fenris, depending on your familiarity with the subject? (Stoicism? Foucault?)

Do the marks themselves react to living beings? Is it possible that living people can actually drain energy from Fenris by touching the marks, ala the Lyrium Planty-Things you saw in the fade?


On an ideal day of relaxation and recuperation, what would Fenris enjoy doing?

Some insight.


That would be a good thing for that magister. Fenris could've been a lyrium well for him to use, as well as a guard dog of sorts that the magister could control with his blood-magey willpower if he was in danger. 

And one day Fenris' power went awry and he escaped.


I think it depends from what was goal of the Magister's experiments. Why did he/she want a living weapon? So far, I see Fenris' lyrium marks more as a source of his power than a power source for someone else.

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Pseudocognition wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Bethany & Hawke fist bump.


If only my sister was this cool.


I have a feeling I'm going to make Bethany Hawke's best friend and criminal at arms. They are just gonna slaughter. And if rival romances ever enter the equation, we'll just fullfill every sexual fantasy and share at different hours.

Varric: "...Tuesdays are Hawke days.."
Fenris: "... So that means I have to see bethany?"
Bethany: "Oh Feeeenris! o/~"
Varric: *pats Fenris on the shoulder* "Go get 'em tiger."
Fenris: *groans and walks away* "I still haven't the energy after Hawke lastnight... these sisters... they will truly kill us before this journey ends..."

Oh that sounded horrible. Strike that.

#3763
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buggirl wrote...

kwintessa wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...
I didn't read the full dialogue, but don't blame yourself. This has been a consistent issue that I've noticed from most fans across all boards.

To draw deeper insight into the character, I think it is fair to ask more broad questions and not necessarily ones that may affect your personal tastes. XD XD

Here are a few questions I was speculating.

What paradigm of philosophy most fits Fenris, depending on your familiarity with the subject? (Stoicism? Foucault?)

Do the marks themselves react to living beings? Is it possible that living people can actually drain energy from Fenris by touching the marks, ala the Lyrium Planty-Things you saw in the fade?


On an ideal day of relaxation and recuperation, what would Fenris enjoy doing?

Some insight.


That would be a good thing for that magister. Fenris could've been a lyrium well for him to use, as well as a guard dog of sorts that the magister could control with his blood-magey willpower if he was in danger. 

And one day Fenris' power went awry and he escaped.


I think it depends from what was goal of the Magister's experiments. Why did he/she want a living weapon? So far, I see Fenris' lyrium marks more as a source of his power than a power source for someone else.


I agree. I was simply wondering if, in the context of HolyJellyfish's question, Fenris could be both. Perhaps the magister wanted a source of power and also a protector in case he was in danger. Thus Fenris came to be.

Edit: LOL.
That made me laugh more than it should've, Jellyfish.

Modifié par kwintessa, 24 décembre 2010 - 04:56 .


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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Oh that sounded horrible. Strike that.


Something tells me most of the inevitable pervy fanfiction will revolve some combination of Hawke family members ganging up on an unsuspecting third (fourth? ...fifth?) party. ;_;

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 24 décembre 2010 - 04:59 .


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Pseudocognition wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Oh that sounded horrible. Strike that.


Something tells me most of the inevitable pervy fanfiction will revolve some combination of Hawke family members ganging up on an unsuspecting third (fourth? ...fifth?) party. ;_;


if Isabela had anything to do with it, the whole camp would go down in a "love fest" faster than a fight on Jersey Shore.

I have a feeling I'll be avoiding fanfic revolving around this game specifically for those reasons, Pseudo. Its gonna be nasty fan territory. :sick::sick::sick:

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Lyrium battery could have been one of Fen's uses. Either that or he could be a lyrium beacon for demons or Fade spirits. Justice did say in Awakening that lyrium makes a sound similar to "singing" to the creatures of the Fade, so to them Fenris would be like a walking, talking rock concert.

Also this is the song I think of when anyone talks about a Fenris romance and the whole no touching thing

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 24 décembre 2010 - 05:08 .


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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Lyrium battery could have been one of Fen's uses. Either that or he could be a lyrium beacon for demons or Fade spirits. Justice did say in Awakening that lyrium makes a sound similar to "singing" to the creatures of the Fade, so to them Fenris would be like a walking, talking rock concert.

Also %20this]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvfb8GcKAWs] this is the song I think of when anyone talks about a Fenris romance


Fenris is a frickin' rockstar. That comment made me laugh. So. Hard.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Also this is the song I think of when anyone talks about a Fenris romance and the whole no touching thing

We have a winner :wizard:

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Heh. I like all these songs people keep throwing out there. Its fun.

Here is another one, possible interpretation of the direction Hawke x Fenris may go, considering trust / distance issues that poor elf probably has.

Link

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I agree; I really don't want to go through "former lover" crap :? heard enough of "former bedders" from Zevran <_<

I'm wondering why this sort of complaint should keep me from doing this in the future, and I really can't imagine it. My version of "fantasy romance" does not extend to "you're the only person they've ever loved or will love EVER". Sorry.


My version of the complaint goes like this:
"I don't expect you to have been chaste and to avoid all affection after I'm gone.  But if you've got baggage that requires me to take you to your lover's tombstone/old apartment/last known workplace then you should work those out before I'm going to be interested in talking to you.  And if you compare me to her then I'm going to turn my attention elsewhere."

It isn't that I expect an LI to never have had another relationship.  I completely agree that's foolish (though corrupting Alistair was kind of fun).  But having a traumatic ending or someone they're clearly not over makes them less of an LI and you more of a "rebound" relationship.  That's definitely NOT my fantasy.

With Zevran, his tales didn't bother me because they were a part of who he was.  He didn't wax poetic about one person or tell me stories that started with, "The way you dispatched that ogre reminded me of how she used to..."  Exes are fine.  Obsessions are not.  B)
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legbamel wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Ex-Paladin wrote...
I agree; I really don't want to go through "former lover" crap :? heard enough of "former bedders" from Zevran <_<

I'm wondering why this sort of complaint should keep me from doing this in the future, and I really can't imagine it. My version of "fantasy romance" does not extend to "you're the only person they've ever loved or will love EVER". Sorry.


My version of the complaint goes like this:
"I don't expect you to have been chaste and to avoid all affection after I'm gone.  But if you've got baggage that requires me to take you to your lover's tombstone/old apartment/last known workplace then you should work those out before I'm going to be interested in talking to you.  And if you compare me to her then I'm going to turn my attention elsewhere."

It isn't that I expect an LI to never have had another relationship.  I completely agree that's foolish (though corrupting Alistair was kind of fun).  But having a traumatic ending or someone they're clearly not over makes them less of an LI and you more of a "rebound" relationship.  That's definitely NOT my fantasy.

With Zevran, his tales didn't bother me because they were a part of who he was.  He didn't wax poetic about one person or tell me stories that started with, "The way you dispatched that ogre reminded me of how she used to..."  Exes are fine.  Obsessions are not.  B)


I think Gaider's point he has been making across all boards is that it isn't his duty to fullfill specific fantasies. Its his duty to write a story, and whether or not players maybe disappointed by the end product is their opinion, not necessarily his responsibility - and that specific chapter shouldn't take away from the quality of the story itself.

That has been how I've interpreted his reflections as of late on the issue.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Heh. I like all these songs people keep throwing out there. Its fun.

Here is another one, possible interpretation of the direction Hawke x Fenris may go, considering trust / distance issues that poor elf probably has.

Link

Thinking about trust and possible distance...

www.youtube.com/watch

...and suddenly I see a rainy night and a heated argument ending in regret, anguish and tears.

Oh my, what did my wicked mind just do to poor Fen :P

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I just hope he isn't the male s/s love interest. Fenris does look totally BA with the lyrium tats, sleek sword, dark past and exotic armor which will probably mean that'll he do some outrageous combat moves and have original dialogue in game, but I'm just sick and tired of the pretty boy(elf or otherwise) male s/s LIs that I see all the time. I'd like to see some diversity in my options.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

if Isabela had anything to do with it, the whole camp would go down in a "love fest" faster than a fight on Jersey Shore.

I have a feeling I'll be avoiding fanfic revolving around this game specifically for those reasons, Pseudo. Its gonna be nasty fan territory. :sick::sick::sick:


The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

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Pseudocognition wrote...

Do it do it do it. I was going to do a Fenris light source joke pic but I got distracted by Tron. XD; Maybe Fenris wants his own glowing rubber suit? *plots*


Mmm, me likey some shiny elf in glowy rubber suit... 

Pseudocognition wrote...

^ Hahaha, Fenris the personal flashlight. He would be the blue-ring permanent guest party member and you'd have to drag him along like Yorda to place him where you need light. (Which would be adorable.)

Hawke: *leans in close to Fenris in a dark, damp cave*
Fenris: What are you doing.
Hawke: Well... it's cold.
Fenris: We are in a cave.
Hawke: I was thinking, you emit light, so I thought you might also... you know. Emit heat?
Fenris: Please go away.



*Snickers in corner* I can picture this. I do not know why, but I can.


HolyJellyfish wrote...

Hawke: Drat... The sun is down again. And we are still soooo far away from the camp.
Bethany: I know! This is suuuch an issue. What are we to do? Walk around blindly into a trap?
Hawke: "I haven't the faintest clue! What shall we do?" 
*Both eye Fenris fiendishly*
Fenris: "... Oh for..." *Rolls eyes, takes off shirt, and follows the path in a grump.
Bethany & Hawke fist bump.


Hmm, maybe incentive to let Bethany live...? *Weighs it*

Nah. Too risky.

Back to YouTube. *Starts listening to vague international bands and more VSQ*