The Official Fenris Discussion thread
#37901
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 09:31
#37902
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 09:45
Dr. Doctor wrote...
I like Fenris for his personallity. Sure he can go into full on "all mages must be killed" mode when he's really ticked off, but he has solid reasons for his beliefs. He can be cold, and a bit of a jerk to other members of the party, see "A New Path"
(Yes Merrill is a blood mage and I get where Fenris is coming from but come on, the girl's mentor was just killed, be it her fault or not a little empathy would have been nice)
I have a different interpretation of that. "I'm not sorry she died. I'm only sorry she died to save you." is a hell of a thing to say, yes, but he follows it up with "Let's hope her sacrifice isn't wasted on you". Combined with the fact that, for all his magerage, he doesn't ever actually raise a hand against the party's mages or try to turn them in, I'm inclined to think that his jerkish attitude towards them is, at least in part, an effort to encourage or provoke them the only way he knows how (with his stunted social skills) into proving him wrong, into showing that mages can be strong enough to resist temptation.
As for his negative attitude, he's hilariously self-deprecating about that if you call him out on it. XD After Alone, try the "You're whining" option.
Hawke: Is that all you do? Dwell on the negative?
Fenris: No, I... Well, all right, yes. Fair enough.
#37903
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 09:47
Combat shouts! Been waiting for those. xD
Per usual, Fenris is the only one not shouting. Also I love how he's all shocked about Aveline falling in battle.
Also I uploaded that whining option xD
Modifié par Nerana, 17 avril 2011 - 09:48 .
#37904
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 09:50
I know- they love each other.tankgirly wrote...
Oh my sweet Maker.
by maqeurious
#37905
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:03
Celbess wrote...
Gah, that videoFenris kissing Anders...
Zzzorry, but I can't stand Anders... I hope it does not get reposted too often ^^
this
#37906
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:24
- Fenris: I thought all dwarves had beards. Where's yours?
- Varric: I misplaced it, along with my sense of dwarven pride and my gold-plated noble caste pin.
- Fenris: I thought maybe it fell onto your chest.
- Varric: Oh-ho! The broody elf tells a joke!
- Fenris: I don't brood.
- Varric: Friend, if your brooding were any more impressive, women would swoon as you passed. They'd have broody babies in your honor.
- Anders: So they'd be... broodmothers?
#37907
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:36
wildannie wrote...
Celbess wrote...
Gah, that videoFenris kissing Anders...
Zzzorry, but I can't stand Anders... I hope it does not get reposted too often ^^
this
oic.
That vid completely make me miss the ritual.

Astrobat's brilliant piece.
Modifié par tankgirly, 17 avril 2011 - 10:37 .
#37908
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:38
Gyah! Fenris kissing Anders....Usually I'm all for the yaoi, but that's my elf Messere!
*Giggle* Awwwwww, little Hawkris!
And since we're still discussing it - I have a theory on the Denarius/Fenris thing....It's entiely possible that he abused Fenris sexually but did nat actually rape him. Rape and sexual abuse are more about dominance and control than actual sex anyway....Just a musing that came to me.
#37909
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:39
ladyofpayne wrote...
I know- they love each other.tankgirly wrote...
*snip*
Oh my sweet Maker.
by maqeurious
Agrrr...my eyes...my eyes! Can't unsee it!
Anders jumping female Hawke "Isabela style" looks just wrong
#37910
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:45
#37911
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:47
sushismygen wrote...
ladyofpayne wrote...
I know- they love each other.tankgirly wrote...
*snip*
Oh my sweet Maker.
by maqeurious
Agrrr...my eyes...my eyes! Can't unsee it!Anders kissing Fenris...
Anders jumping female Hawke "Isabela style" looks just wrongbut it would be nice to see someone make this scean with F/Hawke jumping Fenris
Alas, so far no one had done it.
Another lovely Fenris Art

by stephany
#37912
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 10:50
Wardening Humor ftw! NICEHekateras wrote...
Oh my god. I've just thought of something unholy. My own little addendum to this banter:
- Fenris: I thought all dwarves had beards. Where's yours?
- Varric: I misplaced it, along with my sense of dwarven pride and my gold-plated noble caste pin.
- Fenris: I thought maybe it fell onto your chest.
- Varric: Oh-ho! The broody elf tells a joke!
- Fenris: I don't brood.
- Varric: Friend, if your brooding were any more impressive, women would swoon as you passed. They'd have broody babies in your honor.
- Anders: So they'd be... broodmothers?
#37913
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 11:07
Tashash wrote...
There was a cut shirtless Fenris scene? *Howls in misery*
Gyah! Fenris kissing Anders....Usually I'm all for the yaoi, but that's my elf Messere!
*Giggle* Awwwwww, little Hawkris!
And since we're still discussing it - I have a theory on the Denarius/Fenris thing....It's entiely possible that he abused Fenris sexually but did nat actually rape him. Rape and sexual abuse are more about dominance and control than actual sex anyway....Just a musing that came to me.
I don't think Fenris was abused that way. He was supposed to be a living weapon which means he would have to be strong mentally as well as physically and this kind of abuse could disturb it. I read Danarius's lines about "affection" as extream loyalty and maybe worship to some degree (Fenris had his memory wiped, he doesn't know better then what Danarius planted in his head) And his line about "the lad is rather skilled" to his combat abilities. When it comes to banter with Isabela, I think it's more like "why do I even bother talking to her". When romanced by Hawke, Fenris cuts most of her "dirty" banters off short and we all know what happends when Fenris and Issy get some action together which just strengtens my theory that there was no abuse in the past since he is perfectly capable of having a healthy sexual relationship, either it's casual fling or serious commitment.
#37914
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 11:20
The thing is thast no one knows, and we're unlikely to get an answer...Meh.
#37915
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 11:45
#37916
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 12:38
"Isabela's on the ground! ... appropriately!" God, Aveline vs. Isabela never makes me stop laughing like a donkey.Nerana wrote...
I have no idea if this has been linked but whatever.
Combat shouts! Been waiting for those. xD
Also, I am not going to record the Anders romance scene, slap the Justice "I'm coming!" combat line in after the fade to black, and put it on YouTube. I am a good person and I'm better than that. Also someone's probably done it already.
As for the question of whether Danarius raped Fenris, there's never going to be a fandom consensus about that: even setting aside entirely the question of whether it's plausible or in-character, for some people it's a kink and they want a side of it with everything, and for others it's a squick they don't want anywhere near the characters they enjoy. Neither side is going to bend, nor should they have to. I have to say I'm surprised non-consensual Danarius/Fenris isn't a massively popular breakout pairing, but then, I've recently had my spirit broken by Supernatural fandom, where it is perpetually rape o'clock and even innocent-looking fic may unexpectedly contain dodgy consent.
Modifié par Twofold Black, 17 avril 2011 - 12:48 .
#37917
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 01:03
Sometimes, I love my husband more then there are words to describe XD
#37918
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 01:27
Twofold Black wrote...
I've recently had my spirit broken by Supernatural fandom, where it is perpetually rape o'clock and even innocent-looking fic may unexpectedly contain dodgy consent.
LOL. Well, Supernatural is in a category of its own, even amongst fandoms.
But yeah, head canons are just that. I do think Fenris was abused that way, but that has to do with my thoughts on how the people in a culture such as the Tevinter Imperium-- where slaves and slavery are so ingrained that Fenris himself says it would collapse under its own weight without slaves-- would handle and deal with slave/master relationships. He also has a lot to say regarding slave psychology, all of which sort of lends itself to that interpretation (to me) as well.
#37919
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 01:44
I loved that!
Varric - "The tame elf is down!"
@Ashera - Toorchwood isn't that bad - you want OMG WHERE IS THE BLEACH MY FRIGGING EYES!!!! Try the Transformers fandom *shudder, my childhood*
Modifié par Tashash, 17 avril 2011 - 01:49 .
#37920
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 01:55
Tashash wrote...
Hey! Where are the F!Hawke battlecries? I swear some are different from M!Hawke, distinctly remeber one, after being knocked out of the fight "If anyone finds my spleen, let me know."
"FENRIS!!!!" (Cue horrified and desperate f!Hawke voice.) Does m!Hawke say that? Does that one only come up after the romance is initiated?
As far as Transformers, I have to admit I did not know about that one!
#37921
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 01:59
@Ashera - you don't want to know, some of it makes ME go "Oh HELLS no!"
#37922
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 02:03
Why. Why!
#37923
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 02:07
Nerana wrote...
Why would Anders say "Want to see what's under these robes?"
Why. Why!
Ah, that would be Awakenings Anders paying a visit! How I missed him.
Merrill "I have so many bruises they have names and families..."
Edit: Oh, there's the spleen comment...
Sebastian "Maker preserve their stupid, stupid souls."
Modifié par Tashash, 17 avril 2011 - 02:11 .
#37924
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 02:17
"Dear Varric, please learn to parry. Love, your innards."
#37925
Posté 17 avril 2011 - 02:17
I would have gone without, say, Anders blowing up the Chantry for a nice shirtless Fenris scene. Just sayin'.





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