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[sushismygen]

Oh those reading classes...

http://browse.devian...et=312#/d3eglrj

Modifié par sushismygen, 22 avril 2011 - 11:16 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

First off, I have really enjoyed the discussion that's been going on here the last few pages and this is a Fenris thread, not a Fenris "love" thread. It's open to anyone, not only for people who has nothing negative to say.

That being said.. I would have enjoyed it more, I believe, if Danarius had been a more gray character instead of so blatantly 'in your face' evil. It would have made him more interesting and a character that would have been more fun to explore instead of just killing him right away. Of course that might have been a hard thing to do since magister's are portrayed as really evil during the game, although it's from Fenris we hear this so it would have made it even more interesting to see a contrast in Danarius character from what Fenris have been saying.

I echo some of the previous posters and wish that Fenris would have had a more important role in the main plot of the game. Maybe Danarius could have been tied to the plot in some other way.

[Hekateras]

There's a hate thread? O_O Complaining about his hair colour, of all things... Wow. O_O

@tsunderes: Pure win.
Uhh... To bring things back to a more lighthearted note, here's some art? By... me. You might remember seeing the rough sketch of it I posted ages ago. Or not. And if there's anyone who DOES have the right to complain about white hair, it's someone who has to paint him. ~_~

http://www.kaytara.d...t.com/#/d3ek7p0

Modifié par Hekateras, 22 avril 2011 - 11:48 .

[sushismygen]

Yellow Words wrote...

First off, I have really enjoyed the discussion that's been going on here the last few pages and this is a Fenris thread, not a Fenris "love" thread. It's open to anyone, not only for people who has nothing negative to say.

As did I...for a first few pages when it first started, but then it got kinda repetetive and felt more like poking people with the stick, just to keep it going. Never said it was a "love" thread and the negative discussions are most welcome too and there were some negative opinions in this discussion that I could agree with. Guess what I mean is that some people like to argue just to argue and that's where discussion is turning to a pointless one.

@Hekateras
Nice art!  Love it

Modifié par sushismygen, 22 avril 2011 - 11:55 .

[sushismygen]

This reminded me about our "Fen on top" discussion, waaaay too many pages back that I could find it and link it together, but anyway here it is

http://browse.devian...et=336#/d3ef401

Modifié par sushismygen, 22 avril 2011 - 12:05 .

[elenilote]

Just a reminder about our wonderfully smutty FB group - MEG:

tinyurl.com/6kkgmly

Open to anyone (18+), it is a closed group - meaning that only members can see the posts.
PM me if any questions, but you are welcome

Modifié par elenilote, 22 avril 2011 - 12:16 .

[Hekateras]

I weep for the death of sweet anonymity.

[elenilote]

Hekateras wrote...

I weep for the death of sweet anonymity.

 
sorry! 

[Ashera]

Hekateras wrote...

I weep for the death of sweet anonymity.

Haha I know. Although, I keep feeling like I should tell the kids to get off my lawn. It's the way things are now, and I don't get it, but I guess I don't have to.

[tankgirly]

by brilliant artist doubleleaf.

She usually do AC fanart, and occasionally she takes commissions. One day, when I have enough money, I will ask her to do one!

[Helen0rz]

lizzbee wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...
Really?!

huh...interesting...
so I can assume that...it kinda like that for all companions? Well, not Aveline with The Long Road Home or whatever it's called, I heard she doesn't marry Donnic if you don't help her. 

It's definitely that way for Varric.  After playing his first companion quest on my first playthrough in Act 2, I decided I was done talking to him and left him in the inn untouched for all of Act 3.  I don't think the house thing ever happened at all.  I don't think I even got new codex entries for him.  Second playthrough, I deliberately refused to help him with both house quests and he dealt with them both himself per the codex.

It's nice to know that they're capable of dealing with things on their own when Hawke is 'too busy' to help them. That also makes me wonder though...if Fenris is capable of dealing with Danarius himself, why wouldn't he resist if you were to hand him back to him?

[Mxcl]

Helen0rz wrote...

lizzbee wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...
Really?!

huh...interesting...
so I can assume that...it kinda like that for all companions? Well, not Aveline with The Long Road Home or whatever it's called, I heard she doesn't marry Donnic if you don't help her. 

It's definitely that way for Varric.  After playing his first companion quest on my first playthrough in Act 2, I decided I was done talking to him and left him in the inn untouched for all of Act 3.  I don't think the house thing ever happened at all.  I don't think I even got new codex entries for him.  Second playthrough, I deliberately refused to help him with both house quests and he dealt with them both himself per the codex.

It's nice to know that they're capable of dealing with things on their own when Hawke is 'too busy' to help them. That also makes me wonder though...if Fenris is capable of dealing with Danarius himself, why wouldn't he resist if you were to hand him back to him?

Maybe he assumes he'd have to contend with Hawke as well as Danarius. Or perhaps he foiled Danarius by use of a clever ruse similar to how  he tricked Hawke and Co in Act 1.

This is actually going to bother me for a few minutes...

[MelRedux]

I, for one, have actually enjoyed that there's been serious discussion and not just squee and pic spam.

Different strokes and all that....

[Atrilial]

Mxcl wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

lizzbee wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...
Really?!

huh...interesting...
so I can assume that...it kinda like that for all companions? Well, not Aveline with The Long Road Home or whatever it's called, I heard she doesn't marry Donnic if you don't help her. 

It's definitely that way for Varric.  After playing his first companion quest on my first playthrough in Act 2, I decided I was done talking to him and left him in the inn untouched for all of Act 3.  I don't think the house thing ever happened at all.  I don't think I even got new codex entries for him.  Second playthrough, I deliberately refused to help him with both house quests and he dealt with them both himself per the codex.

It's nice to know that they're capable of dealing with things on their own when Hawke is 'too busy' to help them. That also makes me wonder though...if Fenris is capable of dealing with Danarius himself, why wouldn't he resist if you were to hand him back to him?

Maybe he assumes he'd have to contend with Hawke as well as Danarius. Or perhaps he foiled Danarius by use of a clever ruse similar to how  he tricked Hawke and Co in Act 1.

This is actually going to bother me for a few minutes...

I'd say either:

a) If he deal's with it by himself he has more time to prepare, etc... so gets help, uses other methods, what have you

 He is so devastated by Hawke's betrayal and so tired of running by that point that he just gives up

[Heidenreich]

Mel_Redux wrote...

I, for one, have actually enjoyed that there's been serious discussion and not just squee and pic spam.

Different strokes and all that....

*gives Mel a box full of wine bottles*

I agree. 'Shorts did a wonderful thing by sparking a debate in here. He gave the thread some purpous beyond "Oh look how CUTE he is when he does stuff!". It gives us some reasons to think about why we like him, what maybe we would do differently, and even what may-yet-come for him.

Discussion and Debate are GOOD THINGS. Even if the opinion differs from yours, so long as its presented civily, its wonderful.


Also, I'm going to cry if I see much more anti-varric from Lizz:(  I WILL CONVINCE YOU!

Varric is wonderful. I'm really super unsure as to how anyone can dislike him, or his VO ;p He's never mean, only playful and snarky. He takes the time to check up on all of his friends! He continually expresses concern for Fenris's well being, pays off the Coterie to keep Anders out of harms way, makes darned sure Merrill isn't getting into trouble for being bumblingly adorable. He's drinking buddies with Isabela, co-conspiritor to Hawke. Hell, even Aveline likes him. And I mean likes, not just puts up with, like she does with Isabela in act 1 and Anders pretty much perpetually.


Up with Varric!

Modifié par Heidenreich, 22 avril 2011 - 01:52 .

[Hekateras]

Helen0rz wrote...

lizzbee wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...
Really?!

huh...interesting...
so I can assume that...it kinda like that for all companions? Well, not Aveline with The Long Road Home or whatever it's called, I heard she doesn't marry Donnic if you don't help her. 

It's definitely that way for Varric.  After playing his first companion quest on my first playthrough in Act 2, I decided I was done talking to him and left him in the inn untouched for all of Act 3.  I don't think the house thing ever happened at all.  I don't think I even got new codex entries for him.  Second playthrough, I deliberately refused to help him with both house quests and he dealt with them both himself per the codex.

It's nice to know that they're capable of dealing with things on their own when Hawke is 'too busy' to help them. That also makes me wonder though...if Fenris is capable of dealing with Danarius himself, why wouldn't he resist if you were to hand him back to him?

It's devastation, pure and simple. Your friendship or, gods forbid, love is the one thing he's come to rely on for stability and to prove that freedom is worth having. A betrayal like that simply convinces him that there's no point in fighting anymore. Coming so soon after Varania's betrayal, it utterly breaks his spirit. It's horrible, I know.

Modifié par Hekateras, 22 avril 2011 - 01:59 .

[MelRedux]

Heidenreich wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

I, for one, have actually enjoyed that there's been serious discussion and not just squee and pic spam.

Different strokes and all that....

*gives Mel a box full of wine bottles*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Heidenreich]

Mel_Redux wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

I, for one, have actually enjoyed that there's been serious discussion and not just squee and pic spam.

Different strokes and all that....

*gives Mel a box full of wine bottles*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The wine, it is reserved for only you (and Fenris) m'dear<3

[Hekateras]

Heidenreich wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

I, for one, have actually enjoyed that there's been serious discussion and not just squee and pic spam.

Different strokes and all that....

*gives Mel a box full of wine bottles*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The wine, it is reserved for only you (and Fenris) m'dear<3

And the walls. Don't forget the walls.

[MelRedux]

NOOOO!!! That's a waste!!!!

[Helen0rz]

It's a bit...interesting to see how Hawke can single handedly destroy a person from inside out like that. I don't think it's possible with other companions, no? I can't recall any other quests where you can complete betray companions right now

[Hekateras]

Well, if Isabela respects you enough, she comes back with the relic, and then you have the option to turn her over to the Qunari so you don't have to fight them. That could count, though one could argue that what goes around comes around.

I never got that bit of Isabela's character. Hawke slays dragons, rock wraiths, abominations and Tal-Vashoth for breakfast, yet Isabela can't trust her to protect her from a lousy Castillon and his thugs? It doesn't feel like it's to her character, IMO... :/

[Helen0rz]

I guess that's when we say as a pirate she has trust issues?

Then again all companions got issues of some sort

[phyreblade74]

Hekateras wrote...


No. People are not claiming that he is hopeful and optimistic. People are claiming that he's gotten better at those things in the course of the game. Which he has. Compare "Fenris after the Deep Roads" with him not having much contact with anyone outside of mercenary missions, and "Fenris three years later", who "wouldn't miss" card night with Varric, meets up with Donnic every week, occasionally goes praying at the Chantry and works with Aveline to root out slavers.

By the end of the game, he certainly DOESN'T mope around in his mansion all day, thinking it a dream that could end any moment. He has a life, and lives it.

This, exactly!

[Ladivixxen]

Good mornin!