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[Eorion_Moonwing]

Yep. Before I have seen Fenris screens I never fully understand what all the "elven cat like eyes" in D.G books mean. I first thought that it may refer to vertical pupil. But now I understand that it was reference to an iris- like this- http://jpeg.im/54b. This is the smallest cat that have round pupil. And the straight-from-the-eyebrows nose was on the races concept as an one of the new non human elven futures. People named it Avatar nose for some reasons.

And because of this elven futures he is different from his character concept- no facial hair, no human eyes, different nose. At least this is my theory=).

[La_Duchessa]

Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

I find new elven eyes(huge, great-cat like iris that leave practically no white seen) and noses(straight from the eyebrows) shown on Fenris screenshots very interesting and unique.

And in bother me somehow that all fan-art in this tread, while great, picture him without any of this non human features added to the elves in DA2 and still almost-100%-human-with-pointy-ears like it were in DAO. I have nothing against it, I am just interested in the "why it so" as for me the change for the lees human elves were more than welcome.

No offence, but I don't understand what your're getting at here..
Because, in Thedas elves are humanoids, so in some respects, they will look like humans and they do have pointy ears...
Again, no offence... I just don't understand your point...

[nightcobra]

scyphozoa wrote...

I think Fenris is Arlathan. And I think he is tank-born. The Tevinters have ancient elven blood and magic and are toying with genetics.

/guess

or how about this:

he could be an arlathan elf who was killed a long time ago but had his body preserved.
tevinters mages found the corpse and tried to revive it, i f only to pry out of him the lost arlathan secrets.
as is known, first enchanter wenselus wrote a codex page describing the rules of magic and one of them stating that resuscitation is impossible, how about if fenris is the first known subject to ever succeed in being brought back to life?
the physical trauma of being resurrected (the process could involve the lyrium tattoos) could be what triggered the amnesia.

/guess 

[Eorion_Moonwing]

La_Duchessa wrote...
No offence, but I don't understand what your're getting at here..
Because, in Thedas elves are humanoids, so in some respects, they will look like humans and they do have pointy ears...
Again, no offence... I just don't understand your point...

Yep, and
qunari are humanoids and while in the first game they were identical to huge
tan humans in DA2 they have strong non human features-to show that while they
are, indeed humanoid species, they are not humans. The same transformation, on
the lesser extent, happened in  DA2 with
the elves-now they have  cat-like eyes
and different noses but artists tend to ignore this new features.  

All the
point of the races redesign were in creating 
more diversity in the look of the too human like DAO ones.   

I try to
find the reason for this, no offence.  People  do  not
like added non human  characteristic(they
liked  classic DAO elven design more)?   Or they
simply do not paid attention to them.  As
even on the screenshot-based arts Fenris 
irises  are shrink to the standard
human ones.

[Lucy Glitter]

The only physical differences between humans and elves in Origins were the height and the ears. I guess you could say they were generally more lithe looking as well, but all npcs in one race had one build for either gender, so I can't say that counts.

[Eorion_Moonwing]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

The only physical differences between humans and elves in Origins were the height and the ears. I guess you could say they were generally more lithe looking as well, but all npcs in one race had one build for either gender, so I can't say that counts.

In general
yep. Male were slightly less muscular and has thinner waist, while females has smaller
breasts. With the small PC ears (clipping issue) and long female  haircut-it were hard to tell from the first glance
is it  human  or elf character  in front of you.

I am, personally,
glad that elves in DA2 got some more distinct characteristics, but I seems to
be a minority here.

[Ramante]

Looking at the concept art (Fenris, not elves) I noticed there are also lyrium lines in the palm of his hand.. so holding a sword should be really painful (let alone fighting with it)..

I wonder if the lyrium lines on his hand will be present in the game, to me it wouldn't make a lot of sense if they were.. or Fenris must like fighting while he is in pain, but the same can be said about wearing clothes being painful. I guess I'm just rambling and reading too much into everything.

[ankuu]

I think that for the last couple of pages there has been a lot of tension floating in the air. I usually loved to post here, but now it keeps me away...

I don't want to offend but comments like "This thread scares me" are not really welcomed. I mean if it scares you, go away and don't read it. Other people were saying that we should have squee moments only when they reveal something or only after he's gonna be revealed as a LI...well this isn't the only fan thread on the Bioware forum yet i haven't seen anyone go on the Varric or Isbela thread saying such things...

If you come here for news and that's all, it's on the first page. No need to dig thru our squees and speculations.

This is just my point of view.

Modifié par ankuu, 26 décembre 2010 - 01:41 .

[Lucy Glitter]

What are the changes save the height difference, exactly? I don't see any difference but a graphics update.

Fenris looks like an Origins elf to me, just with better graphics.

ankuu wrote...

I think that for the last couple of pages there has been a lot of tension floating in the air. I usually loved to post here, but now it keeps me away...

I don't want to offend but comments like "This thread scares me" are not really welcomed. I mean if it scares you, go away and don't read it. Other people were saying that we should have squee moments only when they reveal something or only after he's gonna be revealed as a LI...well this isn't the only fan thread on the Bioware forum yet i haven't seen anyone go on the Varric or Isbela thread saying such things...

It's a hair flip.

Look, bottom line, we are just being silly. Peoples are stupid and they don't get it. That's all it is. Stupid people not thinking before they type. Just ignore it, dear. :happy:

When I see stupid comments like that, I do this:

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 26 décembre 2010 - 01:51 .

[ankuu]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

What are the changes save the height difference, exactly? I don't see any difference but a graphics update.

Fenris looks like an Origins elf to me, just with better graphics.

ankuu wrote...

I think that for the last couple of pages there has been a lot of tension floating in the air. I usually loved to post here, but now it keeps me away...

I don't want to offend but comments like "This thread scares me" are not really welcomed. I mean if it scares you, go away and don't read it. Other people were saying that we should have squee moments only when they reveal something or only after he's gonna be revealed as a LI...well this isn't the only fan thread on the Bioware forum yet i haven't seen anyone go on the Varric or Isbela thread saying such things...

It's a hair flip.

Look, bottom line, we are just being silly. Peoples are stupid and they don't get it. That's all it is. Stupid people not thinking before they type. Just ignore it, dear. :happy:

When I see stupid comments like that, I do this:

Tyra disapproves -100

[Collider]

ankuu wrote...

I think that for the last couple of pages there has been a lot of tension floating in the air. I usually loved to post here, but now it keeps me away...

I don't want to offend but comments like "This thread scares me" are not really welcomed. I mean if it scares you, go away and don't read it. Other people were saying that we should have squee moments only when they reveal something or only after he's gonna be revealed as a LI...well this isn't the only fan thread on the Bioware forum yet i haven't seen anyone go on the Varric or Isbela thread saying such things...

If you come here for news and that's all, it's on the first page. No need to dig thru our squees and speculations.

This is just my point of view.

People are just getting on the hate bandwagon. It's super cool!

[MachineMaiden]

Just got up and had a thought and wanted to share it before going to work today. Dunno if it's been said before buuutt Fenris (wolf) & Hawke (hawk) weell *coughcoughLadyHawkmovieanyone?coughcough* both animals mate for life. Foreshadowing maybe? Grasping at straws? Probably.

[Minxie]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I think Fenris is Arlathan. And I think he is tank-born. The Tevinters have ancient elven blood and magic and are toying with genetics.

/guess

or how about this:

he could be an arlathan elf who was killed a long time ago but had his body preserved.
tevinters mages found the corpse and tried to revive it, i f only to pry out of him the lost arlathan secrets.
as is known, first enchanter wenselus wrote a codex page describing the rules of magic and one of them stating that resuscitation is impossible, how about if fenris is the first known subject to ever succeed in being brought back to life?
the physical trauma of being resurrected (the process could involve the lyrium tattoos) could be what triggered the amnesia.

/guess 

Interesting...

Although if this was the case, I would hope that Fenris is physically whole and not technically not-alive/undead. Otherwise my Hawke will only be thinking, "Ick" about a potential romance. 

The general "He's an ancient Arlathan" theory is now my new favorite one, since the Fen'harel theory has been pretty much debunked.  

[Minxie]

MachineMaiden wrote...

Just got up and had a thought and wanted to share it before going to work today. Dunno if it's been said before buuutt Fenris (wolf) & Hawke (hawk) weell *coughcoughLadyHawkmovieanyone?coughcough* both animals mate for life. Foreshadowing maybe? Grasping at straws? Probably.

I like where your head is at. 

p.s. You have to go to work the day after Christmas too? Same here - sitting behind a cash register as I type.  Fortunately I can bring my laptop to work and hang out at the forums (and play Hordes of the Underdark for the first time so I can finally meet Valen aka the dude who's supposedly similar to Fenris).

[MachineMaiden]

Minxie18 wrote...

I like where your head is at. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

p.s. You have to go to work the day after Christmas too? Same here - sitting behind a cash register as I type. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie] Fortunately
I can bring my laptop to work and hang out at the forums (and play
Hordes of the Underdark for the first time so I can finally meet Valen
aka the dude who's supposedly similar to Fenris).

Hehehe, thanks! I adore that movie and for some reason while I was laying in bed dreading going to work it popped into my head, the connection and all.

ps. Your lucky you can do that though, I have to deal with returns and customers all day and stuff. Working at GameStop has it's ups and downs.

[Anarya]

I think the past lovers thing doesn't really bother me because I don't believe in soulmates. Meaning the idea that there's one person out there mystically destined for you who completes you and all others pale in comparison. Personally I think there's thousands or millions of people out there in the world who would be compatible with you, so having previous loves makes sense for an LI, especially the older ones. Not that I didn't love Alistair's romance, of course. It's my favorite one, but I don't think my enjoyment is because his romantic history is a blank slate. So for people who do believe in soulmates, yeah I can see how a past lover would be extremely offputting.

I also just really enjoy hearing these characters' backstories, and that includes romantic history, whatever the nature of the history in question. I'm not advocating for "Carth Syndrome" for every male LI though. Ideally there'd be a lot of variation in characters' love lives to keep things interesting. Anyway that's why the past loves thing doesn't bother me. I haven't felt unspecial or like a cheap replacement yet for any Bioware LI who had past lovers.

And on a completely unrelated note, I think Fen looks like Desmond Harrington, as far as facial structure goes. Of course, no one has Fen's rather unique coloring.

Desmond Harrington:



And finally, @Wynne: That was a fantastic post, about LIs and "Carth Syndrome". Well done!

Modifié par Anarya, 26 décembre 2010 - 03:19 .

[Minxie]

I wonder if Fenris' appearance was modeled after any one in particular? IMO, Bioware characters tend to be better or more unique looking if they are modeled after a real life person (thinking of Miranda and The Illusive Man, etc).

Just saying because Fenris looks great compared to most of the elves we saw in DAO.

Modifié par Minxie18, 26 décembre 2010 - 03:16 .

[Nerys]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

I'm trying to think what actor looks most like Fenris...

To me, his face reminds me of a young Rufus Sewell when the actor was in his twenties-early thirties. If the actor straightened his hair, dyed it, went tanning, and wore green eye contacts.

We can only dream that Rufus Sewell is the VA. Now you got my hopes up. Dang it!

[QueenOfFerelden]

 To me Fenris looks like Alex Band. 

Modifié par QueenOfFerelden, 26 décembre 2010 - 04:27 .

[Tinxa]

Minxie18 wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I think Fenris is Arlathan. And I think he is tank-born. The Tevinters have ancient elven blood and magic and are toying with genetics.

/guess

or how about this:

he could be an arlathan elf who was killed a long time ago but had his body preserved.
tevinters mages found the corpse and tried to revive it, i f only to pry out of him the lost arlathan secrets.
as is known, first enchanter wenselus wrote a codex page describing the rules of magic and one of them stating that resuscitation is impossible, how about if fenris is the first known subject to ever succeed in being brought back to life?
the physical trauma of being resurrected (the process could involve the lyrium tattoos) could be what triggered the amnesia.

/guess 

Interesting...

Although if this was the case, I would hope that Fenris is physically whole and not technically not-alive/undead. Otherwise my Hawke will only be thinking, "Ick" about a potential romance. 

The general "He's an ancient Arlathan" theory is now my new favorite one, since the Fen'harel theory has been pretty much debunked.  

I don't get all these theories why should he be anything more than what was already revealed
isn't being a living weapon special enough??? Does the name absolutely have to stand for something?

If in the game he actually was an ancient arlathan werewolf who was once Fen'harel (or something) I simply couldn't stand the cheesiness of it.
I mean is it just me who would find all the "extra speshulness" silly?

[Anarya]

It's not just you. I think his history is already pretty colorful.

[ankuu]

Tinxa wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I think Fenris is Arlathan. And I think he is tank-born. The Tevinters have ancient elven blood and magic and are toying with genetics.

/guess

or how about this:

he could be an arlathan elf who was killed a long time ago but had his body preserved.
tevinters mages found the corpse and tried to revive it, i f only to pry out of him the lost arlathan secrets.
as is known, first enchanter wenselus wrote a codex page describing the rules of magic and one of them stating that resuscitation is impossible, how about if fenris is the first known subject to ever succeed in being brought back to life?
the physical trauma of being resurrected (the process could involve the lyrium tattoos) could be what triggered the amnesia.

/guess 

Interesting...

Although if this was the case, I would hope that Fenris is physically whole and not technically not-alive/undead. Otherwise my Hawke will only be thinking, "Ick" about a potential romance. 

The general "He's an ancient Arlathan" theory is now my new favorite one, since the Fen'harel theory has been pretty much debunked.  

I don't get all these theories why should he be anything more than what was already revealed
isn't being a living weapon special enough??? Does the name absolutely have to stand for something?

If in the game he actually was an ancient arlathan werewolf who was once Fen'harel (or something) I simply couldn't stand the cheesiness of it.
I mean is it just me who would find all the "extra speshulness" silly?

[edit]

nevermind

Modifié par ankuu, 26 décembre 2010 - 07:51 .

[nightcobra]

Anarya wrote...

It's not just you. I think his history is already pretty colorful.

me too, but it's just so fun to see these people going on about trying to find out more about the characters and their backgrounds.:innocent: