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nightcobra8928 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

It's not just you. I think his history is already pretty colorful.


me too, but it's just so fun to see these people going on about trying to find out more about the characters and their backgrounds.:innocent:

Well... I think we're coming up with colorful theories because we've figured there has to be more to his story. We're trying to come up with reasons why he was made a slave and branded with lyrium in the first place, and how he survived that process. It could simply be in the end "just because", or it could turn out there's something else about him (like he's an Arlathan or whatnot) to explain everything.

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MachineMaiden wrote...

Just got up and had a thought and wanted to share it before going to work today. Dunno if it's been said before buuutt Fenris (wolf) & Hawke (hawk) weell *coughcoughLadyHawkmovieanyone?coughcough* both animals mate for life. Foreshadowing maybe? Grasping at straws? Probably.


There was a movie " Lady Hawke" with Rutger Hauer and if I good remember the Lady in daytime was a Hawke and the warrior by the night time was a wolf :)
And about Fenris appearance he more remind me Dante from Devil May Cry games..

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I'm a pretty big believer in Occam's Razor (probably not surprisingly), so I'm just thinking he was an elven slave who had experiments done on him, erasing his memory in the process, and then he escaped. Just like it says on the tin. I don't think he has any particularly special identity or came from somewhere notable.

The experiments may have been done for the purpose of studying mana, maybe in an attempt to create a mana battery like with Shale, or maybe it does have something to do with elven immortality (though now I'm doubting that last one). Whatever the reason, I don't think he was anything more than another elven slave before the experiments began.

What I'm curious about now is whether his memories can be restored at some point, or if they're gone for good.

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RGC_Ines wrote...

MachineMaiden wrote...
Just got up and had a thought and wanted to share it before going to work today. Dunno if it's been said before buuutt Fenris (wolf) & Hawke (hawk) weell *coughcoughLadyHawkmovieanyone?coughcough* both animals mate for life. Foreshadowing maybe? Grasping at straws? Probably.

There was a movie " Lady Hawke" with Rutger Hauer and if I good remember the Lady in daytime was a Hawke and the warrior by the night time was a wolf :)
And about Fenris appearance he more remind me Dante from Devil May Cry games..

Yeah, and the wolf got to ride a horse in church, too!  :o  But I'd think that comparison really is more coincidence than foreshadowing.  Either that or Matthew Broderick is voicing Fenris.  :pinched:

I'm in agreement with SirOccam: the background we've been given is plenty or drama for one guy.  Does he have to be more?

Modifié par legbamel, 26 décembre 2010 - 05:33 .


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SirOccam wrote...

I'm a pretty big believer in Occam's Razor (probably not surprisingly),


How did I not make that connection until you brought it up!? Haha. *high five for Occam's Razor*

You guys sure are generating quite the list of interesting backgrounds for other characters though. Somebody open up a Word document and develop them :D

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@Ankuu Tension happens, but for the most part I think the air has been cleared and we can continue to be super nerds drooling over beautiful bronzed elven boy Fenris. I don't think we've been attacking one another, simply stating our feelings and uncertainties. I haven't heard anyone throw insults, just genuine fears. But everyone is still excited about Fenris being a potential LI.

@Lucy That GIF is hilarious. yeah, tension officially cleared dah dah dah the end.

@MachineMaiden I love how you made the comparison between Lady Hawke and Fenris & Hawke. That movie was so sweet, and Rutger Hauer was easy on the eyes.

@Tinxa I don't see any issue in fun speculation, provided people don't get angry if these things don't happen :D

@Anarya Desmond Harrington is easy on the eyes.


Just so everyone knows, I don't actively dislike ANYONE on this thread, regardless of their opinion or feelings that may or may not disagree with me. :) I really enjoy everyone quite a bit, you are all fun, playful, warm, inviting, enthusiastic, and supportive. If I call certain things on the thread, it is mostly in an effort to make sure such opinions don't unintentionally make people uncomfortable or prevent Gaider from wanting to lurk. Probably not my job, I know, but these things happen.

So back to being awesome and loving this hot elf boy.

Modifié par HolyJellyfish, 26 décembre 2010 - 05:36 .


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I don't know if this has been mentioned, as I've only skimmed through a large portion of this thread, but has anyone speculated on why all elves are not tan like Fenris? Or why Fenris is when other elves are not? At least the Dalish ought to be, living outdoors as they do. It always bothered me that most of them were so incredibly pale (and the ladies wore little cheerleader outfits in the woods, but that's a different post).

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@Legbamel I always assumed it was a choice made by the design team so his marks would stand out.



I no longer think he is Arlathan, but I believe his experiments are definitely related to them. They remind me too much of their tattoos, and the spiral designs of darkspawn taint ( - and the taint ALWAYS look a little like corrupted Arlathan statues to me.), so I'm interested to see if there maybe a connection to that.

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legbamel wrote...

I don't know if this has been mentioned, as I've only skimmed through a large portion of this thread, but has anyone speculated on why all elves are not tan like Fenris? Or why Fenris is when other elves are not? At least the Dalish ought to be, living outdoors as they do. It always bothered me that most of them were so incredibly pale (and the ladies wore little cheerleader outfits in the woods, but that's a different post).


The same reason all humans are not tan like Isabela.

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There was a movie " Lady Hawke" with Rutger Hauer and if I good remember the Lady in daytime was a Hawke and the warrior by the night time was a wolf :)
And about Fenris appearance he more remind me Dante from Devil May Cry games..[/quote]

I don't think they are redoing a story arch, but they could have used it as inspiration. I mentioned this way back in a discussion about his previous owner being in love with him, and with the lyrium and now not being able to touch and such this would probably not be the case b/c it would come too close to that already done story. I was talking about how that, while a good cliche, was still a cliche. I still don't think anyone has done it quite so well as Lady Hawke. One of my favorite movies.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

@Legbamel I always assumed it was a choice made by the design team so his marks would stand out.


That makes sense.

On the same note though, they could have done pale with black markings and black hair... but that would probably look too much like the effect of corruption that you can see in some cam footage of a demo.

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Pseudocognition wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

@Legbamel I always assumed it was a choice made by the design team so his marks would stand out.


That makes sense.

On the same note though, they could have done pale with black markings and black hair... but that would probably look too much like the effect of corruption that you can see in some cam footage of a demo.


But wouldn't that be cool? If Hawke went the wrong path or the dark path, that Fenris' appearance would alter?

Or his veins would turn black if the Darkspawn were near?

Or his glow would pulsate to a really good synthesized techno beat?

Probably unlikely. But its a thought.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

But wouldn't that be cool? If Hawke went the wrong path or the dark path, that Fenris' appearance would alter?

Or his veins would turn black if the Darkspawn were near?

Or his glow would pulsate to a really good synthesized techno beat?

Probably unlikely. But its a thought.


I attribute conditional-apperance-changing to anime/JRPGs waaaay too much for me to get excited about that idea, no offense XD;

STROBE LIGHT FENRIS. That I like. <3

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 26 décembre 2010 - 06:26 .


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by rooster82



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she has an awesome fan comic btw!

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RGC_Ines wrote...

MachineMaiden wrote...

Just got up and had a thought and wanted to share it before going to work today. Dunno if it's been said before buuutt Fenris (wolf) & Hawke (hawk) weell *coughcoughLadyHawkmovieanyone?coughcough* both animals mate for life. Foreshadowing maybe? Grasping at straws? Probably.


There was a movie " Lady Hawke" with Rutger Hauer and if I good remember the Lady in daytime was a Hawke and the warrior by the night time was a wolf :)
And about Fenris appearance he more remind me Dante from Devil May Cry games..


I loooove that movie and it was just on tv last week Image IPB
I will be soooo disappointed if DA2 doesn't have a "Ladyhawke" easter egg in it.
One of the random travel encounters (if they still have those) could be the party coming across a lady with a wolf Image IPB

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legbamel wrote...
I'm in agreement with SirOccam: the background we've been given is plenty or drama for one guy.  Does he have to be more?


I concur.
There is a line for when things just become too dramatic.
It is difficult to not fall under any tropes at all, if even possible, but one too many and it gets either boring or awkward.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

legbamel wrote...

I don't know if this has been mentioned, as I've only skimmed through a large portion of this thread, but has anyone speculated on why all elves are not tan like Fenris? Or why Fenris is when other elves are not? At least the Dalish ought to be, living outdoors as they do. It always bothered me that most of them were so incredibly pale (and the ladies wore little cheerleader outfits in the woods, but that's a different post).

The same reason all humans are not tan like Isabela.

What, because they don't spend much of their time on a pirate ship?

I'm not saying they should all be the same color.  In fact, I'm asking the opposite: why are so many of the Dalish ghostly pale when they live outside?  Why are there so few elves with darker skin tone?

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QueenOfFerelden wrote...

 To me Fenris looks like Alex Band. 

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B)


The lead singer from 'The Callings'?

Modifié par tankgirly, 26 décembre 2010 - 07:39 .


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ankuu wrote...

by rooster82

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she has an awesome fan comic btw!


Awesome Zevran fan comic! YES! I finally convince her to hop onboard! <3<3<3

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I love Rooster's art. But considering her deep elf appreciation, I'm not surprised she jumped on the bandwagon. ;)



Once I finish moving to LA, I look forward to drawing a gorgeous Fen pic.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

I love Rooster's art. But considering her deep elf appreciation, I'm not surprised she jumped on the bandwagon. ;)

Once I finish moving to LA, I look forward to drawing a gorgeous Fen pic.


She also drew Isabela ^^

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And yes the Zevran fan comic <3 I can't wait to see how the romance between him and Nara turns out.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Once I finish moving to LA, I look forward to drawing a gorgeous Fen pic.


Ooh, welcome to LA!

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tankgirly wrote...

QueenOfFerelden wrote...

 To me Fenris looks like Alex Band. 

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-snip-


B)


The lead singer from 'The Callings'?




well yes. do you disagree?

#3949
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We can only dream that Rufus Sewell is the VA. Now you got my hopes up. Dang it!


He is a gorgeous, gorgeous man. Even in his late 40s, he is a gorgeous, gorgeous man.


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legbamel wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

legbamel wrote...

I don't know if this has been mentioned, as I've only skimmed through a large portion of this thread, but has anyone speculated on why all elves are not tan like Fenris? Or why Fenris is when other elves are not? At least the Dalish ought to be, living outdoors as they do. It always bothered me that most of them were so incredibly pale (and the ladies wore little cheerleader outfits in the woods, but that's a different post).

The same reason all humans are not tan like Isabela.

What, because they don't spend much of their time on a pirate ship?


Isabela is not tan because she's a pirate but because she's Rivaini. In Thedas, the climate is warmer and sunnier the further north you travel, and people tend to be darker than in the far south like Ferelden.

In fact, I'm asking the opposite: why are so many of the Dalish ghostly pale when they live outside?  Why are there so few elves with darker skin tone?


Ferelden is akin to England or the Pacific Northwest. It's people are pale skinned both because of genetic and because it's frequently overcast.

ankuu wrote...


She also drew Isabela ^^

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Well, hello there.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 décembre 2010 - 08:04 .