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#40201
Rheia

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Heh. I probably fall into a minority who actually prefers DA II take on Anders. I'll give that he is fun in Awakening, but I prefer him as a flawed character who has made questionable choices for the best of intentions and have stepped on that perilous road that's paved with them.

So, to answer the favorite non-Fenris romance question, it would be no-other-love-triangles rival Anders (post 1.03 when they fix his rivalry bugs, I might actually play it instead of watching the scenes) It definately won't be the game I'll be keeping as my favorite, it is too damn laced in tragedy, but it does make for a good story.

Oddly enough, I'm also growing to appreciate Fenris/Isabella pair. And hear me out before you get your rotten tomatoes out!

Romance outcomes as seen in Dragon Age games so far: 

If Fenris is involved with Hawke, Varrick does the 'everyone leaves the champion's side, except Fenris, of course' speech at the end, and not even one minute later, Leliana waltzes in and goes 'oh, noes, the champion has dissapeared, just like the Warden!'

I needn't mention that I want to feed her to an archdemon/legion of desire demons/a dungeon full of Harvesters at that revelation.

Now, take a look at post Origins romance resolutions. No matter how happy (or not) their original endings were, Morrigan gets the best bittersweet ending, given the choice warden follows her. Leli is out searching for missing warden, Zevran is separated from them, warden Alistair is separated from them, and eventhe  married king Alistair is still separated from their loved one. Meanwhile, the Warden's 30 year clock is ticking, and I don't the impression that much, if any, of that time is spent alongside their beloved during the DA II events, prior to their whole dissapearing act.

Therefore, unless bioware writes decide to pleasantly surprise me, I won't hold my breath for a 'together-ever-after' resolution of DA II romances. I'll desperately hope for it, sure, but the signs are against it.

So, what does Fenris gains from the romance with Hawke? The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return quote nonwithstanding, there is probably heartbreak down that road, when Champion dissapears for whatever plot reason.

With Fenris and Isa,  the is certainly a different dynamic to a relationship than that of Fenris and Hawke. It definately starts casual enough, for one. But who is to say that it can't develop much like Isabella and Hawke one? Fenris can be heartbreakingly loyal, and it isn't something Isabella knows much of, but learns to treasure thoughout the game. If they are to take a chance on love somewhere down the road, they'd make a brilliant couple, and there is far less chance that a plot-twist of doom would whisk either one of them to an 'all-new-forget-your-old-companions-adventure'. :P

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#40202
Maiafay

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Not really promoting, just linking. Fenris/Anders, Fenris/Isabela. And I play with the lore a bit.

It's a dark story, just to forewarn.

Chains of Air and Glass

#40203
CrimsonLuna

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@ Shacary ,  Fenris Fangirling is fun Posted Image.   I  always laugh when Varric picks on Fenris.

Fenris[/b]: I thought all dwarves had beards. Where's yours?
Varric[/b]: I misplaced it, along with my sense of dwarven pride and my gold-plated noble caste pin.
Fenris[/b]: I thought maybe it fell onto your chest.
Varric[/b]: Oh-ho! The broody elf tells a joke!
Fenris[/b]: I don't brood.
Varric[/b]: Friend, if your brooding were any more impressive, women would swoon as you passed. They'd have broody babies in your honor.
Fenris[/b]: You're a very odd dwarf.
Varric[/b]: And you thought I was joking about the pin.

I would so swoon if Fenris passed by me and i would totally have his broody babies  LOLPosted ImagePosted Image

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CrimsonLuna

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@Madame Rose Crimsynn ,  Yes  cookies and sweets , loving it!! Posted Image.
 

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Prompt Time

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Fenris: Where are we going?

Hawke: Where are we going? How should I know? Do I look like the leader of this band of misfits to you?

Varric: Hey now, I just so happen to be a completely normal and well-adjusted individual.

Fenris: You talk to your crossbow.

Varric: Hey, compared to most people in this town that's pretty normal.

Fenris: A fair point.

Hawke: (stops walking) I think we're lost.

Fenris: Can't you just divine our location? Or does your all-powerful magic not cover navigation?

Hawke: I could use magic to find out where we are, but I'd need to sacrifice an elf that makes wise remarks. Maker knows where I'd find one.

Varric: We could always use a map. (rummages though pockets) Let's see here I had a map in here...damn.

Fenris: What is it?

Varric: Unless you want to be reading the next Hard in Hightown novel this map isn't going to do us any good.

Hawke: You wrote your story on the only map we own?

Varric: Well what with all this random murder we've been doing I haven't had a chance to visit the market.

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Question!
I know it's possible to romance Fenris, then Anders. Or Fenris, then almost Anders but go back to fenris in the end (when anders tries to sleep with you) but is it possible to romance Anders and then Fenris?

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Shacary

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@ crimsonLuna me 2! :)
EEK I hear what u are saying Rhea but tbh I dont like Isabelas character much. Hawke doesnt care how much sleeping about someone does before they find " luv" , but my Hawke would expect faithfulness. I have read of a few that romanced her and she still wanted to do Zevran and her line on youtube of .. I think im falling for you.... O wow! Not to mention how to overcome my total Bias about her allowing potentially everyone in Kirkwall to die for her damn Boat.... she does have a funny line or two... But im so stuck on the betrayal and the unrealistic Meh apology { altho I have never played thru her romance... I just cant do it. Blech}
so as far as Im concerened with Isabela DLC"s or romance with Fenris? get stuffed Rivani Its Hawke all the way LOL
I have resigned myself to the fact that since my 1st PT was merrill romance by accident more or less, I was lucky to g et htat acheievement snce now I cant plau thru the romance of any of the others *sigh*
I like da2, it was great but it was a good game.. but Im finding it more difficult to even get to the thrid act sice nothing i chose as decisions ever makes an impact the PT ends up the same over and over. that was really why Dao drew me in. the variety .
Still there is Fenris and LadyHawke here!

 Omg   Doc!  I  totally LUV    your  banter  on the  characters! 

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Is it true that if you choose the "so you're ending it" option, the romance with Fenris is over? There's no broken heart in this option, does somebody know if this was fixed, will I have to reaload my game and loose hours of gameplay? :(

#40209
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Is it true that if you choose the "so you're ending it" option, the romance with Fenris is over? There's no broken heart in this option, does somebody know if this was fixed, will I have to reaload my game and loose hours of gameplay? :(

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tankgirly

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Elriendel wrote...

Is it true that if you choose the "so you're ending it" option, the romance with Fenris is over? There's no broken heart in this option, does somebody know if this was fixed, will I have to reaload my game and loose hours of gameplay? :(


No? Because I always choose this option, after selecting all the other flirt options that is. And Fenris always come back in Act III, after the 'Alone' quest.

#40211
CrimsonLuna

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I would of like to see Cullen as a LI , imagine what the relationship between Mage Lady Hawke and Cullen be like. In DAO in the circle of magi he was such a shy character.

@Shacary , I have noticed the same thing too in the third act it seem what ever decision you make it doesn't change much.

#40212
dangereusegirl

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There is a bug, I believe, where saying 'so you're ending it?' will actually end the romance with Fenris. I have no idea if its been fixed with the latest patch, however. I never had a problem, cause that option never fit with any of my Hawkes.

#40213
Elriendel

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tankgirly wrote...

Elriendel wrote...

Is it true that if you choose the "so you're ending it" option, the romance with Fenris is over? There's no broken heart in this option, does somebody know if this was fixed, will I have to reload my game and loose hours of gameplay? :(


No? Because I always choose this option, after selecting all the other flirt options that is. And Fenris always come back in Act III, after the 'Alone' quest.




Sorry for doubleposting!

@tankgirly
What a relief, thank you!
Just out of curiosity, have you ever chosen the "I don't need you" option too (when she says she'd rather be alone), after Hawke's mother dies? I think it's neutral, but you never know...

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tsunderes wrote...

Question!
I know it's possible to romance Fenris, then Anders. Or Fenris, then almost Anders but go back to fenris in the end (when anders tries to sleep with you) but is it possible to romance Anders and then Fenris?


No. Once you romance Anders or Merrill and do not treat it like a fling, you are locked into the romance. Whether or not you can romance Fenris after treating Anders like a one-night stand, I have no idea. I suspect not, though.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 08 mai 2011 - 01:02 .


#40215
CrimsonLuna

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what did you guys think of the A Bitter Pill quest?

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TS2Aggie wrote...

tsunderes wrote...
Question!
I know it's possible to romance Fenris, then Anders. Or Fenris, then almost Anders but go back to fenris in the end (when anders tries to sleep with you) but is it possible to romance Anders and then Fenris?


No. Once you romance Anders or Merrill and do not treat it like a fling, you are locked into the romance. Whether or not you can romance Fenris after treating Anders like a one-night stand, I have no idea. I suspect not, though.

Nope, you can't.  Fenris acts the same for the rest of Act 2 but then in Act 3 he's back to "Hawke" and "We should move on".  :crying:

#40217
tankgirly

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Elriendel wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Elriendel wrote...

Is it true that if you choose the "so you're ending it" option, the romance with Fenris is over? There's no broken heart in this option, does somebody know if this was fixed, will I have to reload my game and loose hours of gameplay? :(


No? Because I always choose this option, after selecting all the other flirt options that is. And Fenris always come back in Act III, after the 'Alone' quest.




Sorry for doubleposting!

@tankgirly
What a relief, thank you!
Just out of curiosity, have you ever chosen the "I don't need you" option too (when she says she'd rather be alone), after Hawke's mother dies? I think it's neutral, but you never know...


No, that's when YT comes in handy. I've seen all possible outcome and know which option should never ever venture upon if I want Fenris to stick with me to the end. That, along with killing off Anders, are the only two option I will never ever do.

^_^

#40218
dangereusegirl

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Gah! I really need to get this next chapter written up. My fen-spiration is slipping through my fingers. T___T

#40219
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tankgirly wrote...

Elriendel wrote...

@tankgirly
What a relief, thank you!
Just out of curiosity, have you ever chosen the "I don't need you" option too (when she says she'd rather be alone), after Hawke's mother dies? I think it's neutral, but you never know...


No, that's when YT comes in handy. I've seen all possible outcome and know which option should never ever venture upon if I want Fenris to stick with me to the end. That, along with killing off Anders, are the only two option I will never ever do.

^_^


I will avoid that then, thank you!

I realized, with Sebastian Vael's DLC that gamer girls are fortunate, this time we actually have more romancing options than male players (if chaste romances count), how cool is that!
It also seems to me the romances with Anders and Fenris are much more deep and interesting than with Merril and Isabela, the last one being just looks (gezz, Bioware, you sure know how to please your crowd, kudos to you).

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I liked the bitter pill, o who am i kidding I liked all Fenris' quests but my all time favorite has to be Avelines long road. I still giggle over that one, especially when Fenris is criticizing her. I had some difficulty finding merrill's quest line to be believable, but I may be hampered by the DAO Merrill and her attitude there towards the mirror/ warden &Tamlem being taken from the clan as they were. I jsut cant picture it as her personality from there... so I treat her as a head injury patient, where she is really a new character and NOT the keeper in training from DAO.
I thought Fenris's quests were well done except I really thought Danarius fight in bar should have been way harder... I can kinda explain some of it away, but that xexenbeck [ the demon thing at end of book quests] had a way more difficult battle in it than Danarius the super magister. But he was totally scummy and deserved to die, over and over again..
Im rambling again... O well I luv chatting with my fenfan family!
   O  I did  one time  tell him I didnt  need him  just  for  scientific purposes   after   Hawke  mums   death.  It  didnt  negate the   romance  but it was  very unsatisfying :(   YAY  for   reloads!

@CrimsonLotus, I would  totally swoon over his   broody  body/voice  but I dont  want  any babies!  mb  just the  practice on  HOW to  make  babies  HAHA  

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#40222
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tankgirly wrote...

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dangereusegirl wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

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*Stuffs tissues up nose* *Pulls out Nutella* 

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because I messed up and deleted my characters I had to start over. I am using a ****y mage at the moment (she mostly uses the bottom choice dialoge) wanting to try a rivalmance with Fenris. I also have a sarcastic/joky rogue she's in a friendmance with him. (she is slowly agreeing with him because dang every friggen mage they run into ARE blood mages)

I really like Izzy and she will be my next romance I think...I will try Anders cause I really do think he's really cute. (I never played DAA so DA2 is my first glimps of Anders) I know he's a cat guy, but he reminds me of a puppy dog when he's like, no one likes me"  Marril will probaby be my last because ...she crazy
 
my favorite quest is the long road. that is so friggen funny.

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#40225
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I am so trying to get thru the aggressive Hawke dialog choices but I guess i just have trouble reconciling that sort of response to my own personal choices, sometimes what the comments listed to choose from dont sound a thing like what is printed there. Sometimes they are way worse, and sometimes they are better.
Ya Anders is cute, but whiny and despert and as I mentioned prior , I cant get past the junkie desperation that " seems" to be his romance... I have seen some scenes on youtube that look kinda sweet, but good grief the one time i actually tried it... well i chose the cheesy heart comment and then the booger had to mention Fenris being like a dog or some such nonsense, and I lost it again and tossed poor anders out.... LOL
I want to like Isabela sometimes,.... mb she will be like Morrigan and take a while for me to appreciate her. Right now I cant :( altho I have only one Pt where she didnt take the book and never return, and Im having toruble finishing it since in end act3 i felt the dialog etc all the same. Still seeing what could have been in this game if BW had had more time, I am hoping for even better in da3... o and more Fenris DLC . I mean really if they are going to give us more sebastian [ he wasnt awful but his preaching irked me after a while] then why not someone I would relaly enjoy seeing in DLC?
@ Verly as for the cat thing... well I luv all animals but Im more a dog person myself. LOL ya Merrill is sweet a bit in the romance, she really does have one line I like about I luv Hawke,,, sometimes when the chips fall in RL that is the truth of why I defend my loved one and why I would walk thru coals for them. No logic in that but it is true!