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legbamel wrote...

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Question!
I know it's possible to romance Fenris, then Anders. Or Fenris, then almost Anders but go back to fenris in the end (when anders tries to sleep with you) but is it possible to romance Anders and then Fenris?


No. Once you romance Anders or Merrill and do not treat it like a fling, you are locked into the romance. Whether or not you can romance Fenris after treating Anders like a one-night stand, I have no idea. I suspect not, though.

Nope, you can't.  Fenris acts the same for the rest of Act 2 but then in Act 3 he's back to "Hawke" and "We should move on".  :crying:

Actually, Demonsaya says otherwise.................... She has successfully tested the theory and has even written a short guide on how to sleep with them all (she's epic............ :P
ETA - A bit of top page Louvette cos she is amazing...........

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@Jen I copied it to my page for people to read :) demon says it's OK

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Awesome, ele :D Was going to pop off and message her and ask her to do it............Saved me a job, lol :)

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@Jen powers of Skype ;) and ohmygod that picture! Lou is so my hero! 

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legbamel wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

tsunderes wrote...
Question!
I know it's possible to romance Fenris, then Anders. Or Fenris, then almost Anders but go back to fenris in the end (when anders tries to sleep with you) but is it possible to romance Anders and then Fenris?


No. Once you romance Anders or Merrill and do not treat it like a fling, you are locked into the romance. Whether or not you can romance Fenris after treating Anders like a one-night stand, I have no idea. I suspect not, though.

Nope, you can't.  Fenris acts the same for the rest of Act 2 but then in Act 3 he's back to "Hawke" and "We should move on".  :crying:


Even if I dump Anders right after bedding him?

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Oh-ho? This guide, I need to see it!

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tsunderes wrote...

Oh-ho? This guide, I need to see it!

Just pop onto ele's profile and you will find it under blogs.......... It is from Demon's own play through trying to see if all *could* be romanced........ We all have a lot to thank her for, lol. :D

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Oh, and I think it is vital that you follow her advice on exactly how to do it if you don't want to mess up :)

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@tsunderes - yes as Jen says, it is vital that you follow the steps in the guide to the letter otherwise it will not work. 
It's on my profile, link here: http://social.biowar...435/blog/46166/

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The Danarius bar fight was really quick it should of been more harder, I was curious to see what happened if I let Danarious take Fenris, that left me brokenhearted I had to load again. When Hawke's mom died , omg i couldn't believe the way she died . I couldn't tell fenris to leave my hawke alone.
Aveline's quest was hilarious lol , I like Merrill but like a kid sister , her quest didn't make sense to me. It left me wondering about the mirror , and the whole clan thing was like WTF. Aveline's quest was hilarious lol ,
Is it possible to romance Aveline ? i wanted to try it on my next playthrough.

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i wrote Aveline's quest is hilarious twice , omg my job has me sleep deprived lol

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I have read that Aveline and Varric are the only companions that are NOT romancable by Hawke, there are a few flirt lines for AVeline but they sail over her head, pretty much like the marigold relief does Donnic..and hawke LOL

 I must  read   Demonsayas  tips too!  AND OO   YUmmy that  LOuvette   art...  speechless!

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elenilote wrote...
@tsunderes - yes as Jen says, it is vital that you follow the steps in the guide to the letter otherwise it will not work. 
It's on my profile, link here: http://social.biowar...435/blog/46166/

Hunh.  It sounds like you don't really START the romance with Fenris until you have some chats with him in Act 2.  I don't know if I'm strong enough to ignore him that long, though.  :lol:

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Same here, and I wondered if you dont talk to him until act 2 if u would get the rest of his dialog about his life, the earlier things I mean the wine at the wall etc ? I might have to try it but I admit I will be scared! does it unlock an achievement? cuz I really cant play a romance thru and " stay " with that npc unless it has white hair and pointy ears lol

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Rheia wrote...

If Fenris is involved with Hawke, Varrick does the 'everyone leaves the champion's side, except Fenris, of course' speech at the end, and not even one minute later, Leliana waltzes in and goes 'oh, noes, the champion has dissapeared, just like the Warden!'

I needn't mention that I want to feed her to an archdemon/legion of desire demons/a dungeon full of Harvesters at that revelation.

Now, take a look at post Origins romance resolutions. No matter how happy (or not) their original endings were, Morrigan gets the best bittersweet ending, given the choice warden follows her. Leli is out searching for missing warden, Zevran is separated from them, warden Alistair is separated from them, and eventhe  married king Alistair is still separated from their loved one. Meanwhile, the Warden's 30 year clock is ticking, and I don't the impression that much, if any, of that time is spent alongside their beloved during the DA II events, prior to their whole dissapearing act.

Therefore, unless bioware writes decide to pleasantly surprise me, I won't hold my breath for a 'together-ever-after' resolution of DA II romances. I'll desperately hope for it, sure, but the signs are against it.

So, what does Fenris gains from the romance with Hawke? The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return quote nonwithstanding, there is probably heartbreak down that road, when Champion dissapears for whatever plot reason.



I'll admit that there's potential for this, although I (rather optimistically, perhaps) interpreted the whole thing as both the Champion and Fenris disappearing at the same time. As you mention in your post, he seems to be capable of tremendous loyalty and unlike Leliana and King Alistair, it's not as if he has any pressing commitments to attend to after Danarius dies. 

Considering that one of the last pieces of dialogue he can say to Hawke in-game is the assurance that "nothing will keep me from you", I'm going to go with the idea that they stick together and they're not just going to throw the relationship away the second that things change or become difficult.  

Additionally, I think there can be a middle ground between "together forever" and infinite heartbreak, too, so even if the Champion gets shipped out to Thedas' version of the Unknown Regions for some crazy reason and supposing her chosen LI can't come along for the ride and/or wait out the separation (which would surprise me), they can still "always have Paris"...I mean, Kirkwall. *Cue airport scene from 'Casablanca'*  

I mean, nothing lasts forever and to have attachments is to risk heartbreak, right? They all live such dangerous lifestyles anyway that they risk separation by death and dismemberment every ten or fifteen minutes. Posted Image   

  

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There is a new poll on the boards here and Fenris doesn't have many votes! Who we would like to see return in a DA3. Need to get those numbers up!

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already voted for him. :)

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I voted for him too he was like at 15 or something then :(

 Addendum:  tbh I doubt it would  make a difference on any  dlc  content, most likely they already have that    in works ,  I rememebr   wishign  for an Alistair/Zevran or  evena  shale   Dlc   to see their  previous  lives  snippets...  I liked  Morrgian and  Leli but  really.. Most of the  dlc  I didnt   really care about. [ except  sodliers peak,  rto,  and  shale of  course   from what i  refer to as the basic  pack  ] .
   I  really  do hope for more  involved and   perhaps  even  with  Hawke as part of the  dlc they are inventing  for   Da2, if it   turns out to be   totally  meh   stuff   I'll save  my money  i think

 add  again IM so   silly;    ya the  3 leading the polls  are not   ones I would  want at all! LOL   hope  BW   does its  own thing but  i kinda  think  we will see  Isabela   again in  Da3  wether we want to or not  lol  [ im  ambivelent.....]

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Shacary wrote...

I have read that Aveline and Varric are the only companions that are NOT romancable by Hawke, there are a few flirt lines for AVeline but they sail over her head, pretty much like the marigold relief does Donnic..and hawke LOL


Actually, if you keep flirting with Aveline and then help her out with Donnic, she'll kiss you on the mouth as thanks. :kissing:

#40245
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legbamel wrote...

elenilote wrote...
@tsunderes - yes as Jen says, it is vital that you follow the steps in the guide to the letter otherwise it will not work. 
It's on my profile, link here: http://social.biowar...435/blog/46166/

Hunh.  It sounds like you don't really START the romance with Fenris until you have some chats with him in Act 2.  I don't know if I'm strong enough to ignore him that long, though.  :lol:

I believe Demon said she flirted with them all in Act 1
If you only want to do Anders, then Fen just go straight to Anders in Act 2, don't be guided by me though, read the guide... It is very easy to understand and very concise :)

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TS2Aggie wrote...

Shacary wrote...

I have read that Aveline and Varric are the only companions that are NOT romancable by Hawke, there are a few flirt lines for AVeline but they sail over her head, pretty much like the marigold relief does Donnic..and hawke LOL


Actually, if you keep flirting with Aveline and then help her out with Donnic, she'll kiss you on the mouth as thanks. :kissing:

You don't have to flirt with her to get that kiss (just to pick the sarcastic/funny option at the end). :)

... and I want Jokermance!

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@ Anny78 AHH thats why AVeline kissed my snarky Ladyhawke, my male Hawke flirted with her and never got the kiss, cept I didnt choose to say he's not the one for you line while she and Donnic were on patrol! MB that flubbed it up.. tbh out of all the women I thought aveline the coolest. I dont care if she had big hands and heavy jawline, I thought she was a lovely good friend!

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@ Jenova Huh I remember the one time I flirted with every companion i could and I never got the Fenris comign to the house until I specifically went to Darktown and spoke to anders and did the broken heart conversation... now mb I didnt go oen step far enough as in letting Anders in LadyHawkes underthings.. teehee. I may have to reload that and see if I can iniate it after that!
Is it me or does Varric's nose look like the new Elven model in this screenie?
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feverdream wrote...

Rheia wrote...

*snip*

Therefore, unless bioware writes decide to pleasantly surprise me, I won't hold my breath for a 'together-ever-after' resolution of DA II romances. I'll desperately hope for it, sure, but the signs are against it.

So, what does Fenris gains from the romance with Hawke? The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return quote nonwithstanding, there is probably heartbreak down that road, when Champion dissapears for whatever plot reason.



I'll admit that there's potential for this, although I (rather optimistically, perhaps) interpreted the whole thing as both the Champion and Fenris disappearing at the same time. As you mention in your post, he seems to be capable of tremendous loyalty and unlike Leliana and King Alistair, it's not as if he has any pressing commitments to attend to after Danarius dies. 

Considering that one of the last pieces of dialogue he can say to Hawke in-game is the assurance that "nothing will keep me from you", I'm going to go with the idea that they stick together and they're not just going to throw the relationship away the second that things change or become difficult.  

Additionally, I think there can be a middle ground between "together forever" and infinite heartbreak, too, so even if the Champion gets shipped out to Thedas' version of the Unknown Regions for some crazy reason and supposing her chosen LI can't come along for the ride and/or wait out the separation (which would surprise me), they can still "always have Paris"...I mean, Kirkwall. *Cue airport scene from 'Casablanca'*  

I mean, nothing lasts forever and to have attachments is to risk heartbreak, right? They all live such dangerous lifestyles anyway that they risk separation by death and dismemberment every ten or fifteen minutes. Posted Image   

  


@Feverdream - I agree. In fact, I think that more than 1 LI in DA2 has this potential ability, since he/she isn't tied into the plot like, say, Alistair is.  I have my hopes up that perhaps the feedback on what's happened with past LIs is being heard and perhaps there is middle ground between DG's "I don't believe in happy endings" and kittens and rainbows. :innocent:

Besides, it's better to love and lose than to never love at all, or at least this has been my experience with every family member, unregretted relationship, and even pet I've had. If you think about it, every relationship can end in tragedy. Prime example: my parents, who were married just over 40 years when my mother passed from cancer. Did it feel like a wrenching tragedy? Yes. She died far too young. My dad was at her side through the whole thing. Does he regret 1 minute of it? Hell no. Has he found someone to be happy with now? Yes. It is the same? No, but it doesn't have to be, and my mom wouldn't have begrudged him moving on. *Shrug*

Also, vote cast. Fen is catching up nicely. Let's keep it that way. :)